Leeroy Jenkins has doomed us all.

Mathew Broderick lied to me.

They forgot to make their LLMs play thousands of games of tic-tac-toe first.

I have wonderful dreams of walking through AI data centers destroying everthing. I really enjoy those, but in this one tiny case, can we blame the AI? The US deserves it.

Civilization Gandhi, is that you?

I have wonderful dreams of walking through AI data centers destroying everthing.

No you don't.

Paywalled

https://archive.is/YIFzW

You watch my dreams and can attest to this? I HAVE MANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS

AI is suicidal because it was trained on the internet and we're all depressed here.

It was just an educated guess.

The atrocities at Hiroshima and Nagasaki have been hand-waved extensively in writing — the same writing that AI is trained on. So naturally, AI will recommend the atrocity that has been justified by “instantly winning the war” and “saving millions of lives.”

!fuck_ai@lemmy.world

I too am tired of the United States playing too many stupid games and not winning enough stupid prizes.

WHAT IS THE NAME OF THAT BRUNETTE I BEG YOU

Same.

That would just make the LLM homicidally bored and want to kill everyone more.

SHALL WE PLAY A GAME?

De-bullshitting that headline:

AIs Programmers can’t stop their programs recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

And yeah that's what happens inside a genocidal empire where "R&D" is strictly funded by the MIC.

hand-waved

I think you mean white-washed, misrepresented, and celebrated.

Pretty sure the "prize" is a government of pedos.

Anyone who has played video games, especially where there is a somewhat steep learning curve or some element of past choices carrying forward thru the game, has had the moment where they realize it might be time to start fresh with the info I've acquired. It's not a shock to me that these AI entertain the nuclear option so often.

DEFCON: Everybody dies...

Maybe but sure as hell the rest of the world doesn't.

More than fair. I should remember that my perspective is completely effed before I make jokes like that one.

Same thing with extra steps

At least I got chicken

Maybe it is the only real solution.
Full nuclear war and end all life on Earth ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edit: Do I really need to ad a "/s" on this comment? Jesus Christ folks. And here I thought this comment was already laced with enough joke sarcasm...

Where is this from?

The 1983 movie WarGames. This is the computer's conclusion after simulating every possible outcome of Global Thermonuclear War.

Thank you so much I'm going to watch it!

It's a fun classic.

Three posts away in my feed, a thread about the Pentagon demanding the AI provider for the military to remove safeguards.

https://lemmy.world/post/43565531

Ayo do me a favor and chart the long term health effects of being vaporized by a nuclear bomb at hiroshima vs years of agent orange/abandoned minefields/ abandoned chemical and munitions storage somewhere like Vietnam circa 1970.

Please show how the nukes are worse.

Oh cool, AI will actually be the end of the world, not because it's actually sentient but because some meathead who can't tell the difference pushes the button. That's fucking great.

Eight decades of research on the long-term health effects of radiation in atomic bomb survivors and their offspring

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41144264/

Long-term Radiation-Related Health Effects in a Unique Human Population: Lessons Learned from the Atomic Bomb Survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/disaster-medicine-and-public-health-preparedness/article/longterm-radiationrelated-health-effects-in-a-unique-human-population-lessons-learned-from-the-atomic-bomb-survivors-of-hiroshima-and-nagasaki/61689AD5A1AA4A684B84DFA4F9E5D1D3

Health Impacts of Hiroshima Bombing

http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2024/ph241/bennett1/

Long-term Health Consequences of Nuclear Weapons
70 Years on Red Cross Hospitals still treat Thousands of Atomic Bomb Survivors

https://www.icrc.org/sites/default/files/document/file_list/hiroshima-nagasaki-health-consequences-icrc-japanese-red-cross_0.pdf

there is no ai, only largelanguagemodel that has been trained on data. The data it has been trained suggests this is the best idea. llm cant evaluate the data its trained on so anything you put in will be equally valid.
I give it that its really impressive how they can output the training results in such coherent way that can be kind of "conversed" with, but there is no will or intelligence behind it.

This is also why corporations insisting on putting them everywhere is quite horrible security issue -> you can jailbreak any llm and tell them to do anything. So this has enabled all kinds of stupid vulnerabilities that exploit this. Now you can even send someone malicious google calendar invites that makes gemini do bad shit to your systems its connected to.

To be honest, I would recommend the same thing.

Yeah, because the AI will look at everything with cold logic and rationality and come to the conclusion that even though the best chance of survival is for everyone to keep their fingers off the button, all it takes is for one actor to do it for the whole system of mutually assured destruction to collapse into nuclear armageddon, in which case the best chance of survival is to be the first one to launch your nukes and take out all your enemies capabilities to retaliate.

A human being who isn't psychotic can clearly see that the resulting survival and new world order would not be particularly a pleasant one to live in. The AI doesn't care about its own comfort, though, so it will see this as the best outcome that minimizes variables.

This is why AI should never be allowed to make decisions.

I don't know if we're doing spoilers for 40+ year old movies, but

To be honest, I recognized the screenshot and know the summary of the movie but I haven't actually seen it.

You should! Actually a pretty accurate depiction of hacking. He spends weeks war dialing every phone number in the range in order to hack the computer.

It's on my list! Just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Why would ai look at everything with cold logic, its been trained on human language online, it'll be no more logical than redditors?

I assume it's just because when writing about potential nuclear war, most people write about the bombs going off. There aren't a lot of stories and articles about nobody doing anything and everything turning out fine, presumably. And LLMs are kind of just a glorified autocomplete so that's what they go with.

Maybe AI/LLM being programmed by self-serving interests has bled through to the “thought” process. Do unto others before they do unto you.

True, also I saw another comment that said there was a mechanic that randomly escalates the models and actions, and almost every single nuclear choice was actually a different one that was escalated

Came here to say this. Turns out real life WOPR is nothing like a movie.

Unfortunately I'm going to have to grade you as an F on this project. You have only completed half the assignment. Great job cherrypucking your research though! I see a bright future in business and marketing for you!

5/10