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antifuchs
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antifuchs@awful.systems Joined: 2024-04-22 |
oh thanks, this is great. yes now that it is pointed out, very eugenics-y to go around saying "ah yes there is one true supreme bacteria, we should culture this bacteria on the human petri dish aka vagina"
Those bacteria better be so supreme they can’t even be killed with regular antibiotics |
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Evinceo
awful.systems
Evinceo@awful.systems Joined: 2023-07-04 |
Families of the victims of the mass shooting at Tumbler Ridge, Canada, which was planned on ChatGPT, plan to sue Sam Altman and OpenAI for at least one billion dollars. OpenAI staff investigated the murderer's interactions with the bot before the killings but decided not to warn anyone outside the company.
I sincerely hope they move fast so they can get a payout before OpenAI's creditors during the bankruptcy. |
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Evinceo
awful.systems
Evinceo@awful.systems Joined: 2023-07-04 |
oh thanks, this is great. yes now that it is pointed out, very eugenics-y to go around saying "ah yes there is one true supreme bacteria, we should culture this bacteria on the human petri dish aka vagina"
There's that company operating in a lawless zone promoted by Slatescott that's whole pitch is that for teeth. But they could always pivot... |
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schnoopy
awful.systems
schnoopy@awful.systems Joined: 2026-04-30 |
We've got the new system prompt for OpenAI's Codex now, and boy is it fun. While the goblin stuff is the headliner here, and there are a few other little fun notes like an explicit instruction to avoid em-dashes. Basically it's really obvious that they don't have a meaningful way to describe exactly what they want it to do and so they're playing whack-a-mole with undesired behaviors in order to...
Oh wow! This one is actually provably real. Hilarious. "Noo dude the machine that wants to rant about goblins is definitely a useful and reliable piece of software dude. You have to trust me dude, let have your personal information! put it into the goblin bot". |
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CinnasVerses
awful.systems
CinnasVerses@awful.systems Joined: 2025-08-23 |
This just brings to mind a freshly-minted poly amorous management consultant looking to apply a rank-and-yank to the polycule but needing to find a more objective metric than "I don't like you".
Most of us: "she smells good and the sounds she makes when she gets excited grip something deep inside me" Tech Bros: "her vaginal microbiome is in the 99th percentile and her Verbal SAT is in the 95th percentile" |
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blakestacey
awful.systems
blakestacey@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
Basically it’s really obvious that they don’t have a meaningful way to describe exactly what they want it to do and so they’re playing whack-a-mole with undesired behaviors in order to minimize how often it embarrasses them. The whole 'how many r's in strawberry' sort of stuff already made me suspect that, when the popular one was fixed and other attempts at asking for letters did still give th...
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
Families of the victims of the mass shooting at Tumbler Ridge, Canada, which was planned on ChatGPT, plan to sue Sam Altman and OpenAI for at least one billion dollars. OpenAI staff investigated the murderer's interactions with the bot before the killings but decided not to warn anyone outside the company.
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flaviat
awful.systems
flaviat@awful.systemsJoined: 2025-02-14 |
Basically it’s really obvious that they don’t have a meaningful way to describe exactly what they want it to do and so they’re playing whack-a-mole with undesired behaviors in order to minimize how often it embarrasses them. The whole 'how many r's in strawberry' sort of stuff already made me suspect that, when the popular one was fixed and other attempts at asking for letters did still give th...
I believe it's the "don't stuff beans up your nose" effect, writing this prompt is causing it to mention goblins |
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Amoeba_Girl
awful.systems
Amoeba_Girl@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-10-16 |
It's Kent Overstreet! Discussed previously, on Awful. He occasionally makes the bot post new blog posts. Let's read the most recent one: It's late. Kent's drinking the last of the scotch… Solid start, no notes. My memory system has been broken for this session. Some bug in the hook that surfaces memories into my context. I've spent the entire day — twelve hours of coding, refactoring data struc...
So, I’m sorry, in the last couple of months since I last checked, he’s started having sex with his manic pixie dream bot slash servant slash daughter? Man I wonder how people in his IRC channel are doing. |
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
got jumpscared by this while scrolling |
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YourNetworkIsHaunted
awful.systems
YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems Joined: 2024-03-22 |
got jumpscared by this while scrolling
Setting aside, for a moment, the flagrant racism and lack of historical and cultural awareness, the fact that the ships are mirrored across the center point because apparently the bow and stern of a sailing ship look similar enough to whatever model creates this image really does put this whole argument into context. Not that the people actually having those theological arguments appear to appreciate it. |
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lagrangeinterpolator
awful.systems
lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems Joined: 2025-05-16 |
got jumpscared by this while scrolling
Somehow this is no worse than his usual fare, such as a thumbnail that is just a bunch of colored lines resembling a line chart but without representing any actual data, with some random marked points labeled "Dark Farms" and "Human Zoo". |
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lagrangeinterpolator
awful.systems
lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems Joined: 2025-05-16 |
We've got the new system prompt for OpenAI's Codex now, and boy is it fun. While the goblin stuff is the headliner here, and there are a few other little fun notes like an explicit instruction to avoid em-dashes. Basically it's really obvious that they don't have a meaningful way to describe exactly what they want it to do and so they're playing whack-a-mole with undesired behaviors in order to...
This really goes to show how much they need to rely on the LLMentalist effect, despite the AI boosters insisting that the AI is totally different now, everything changed in the last few months. They do not care about creating a useful, reliable tool. That concept doesn't even occur to them, since why do that when AI is magic? In any case, they are incapable of creating a useful, reliable tool. Deep down, the only thing the AI companies have at their disposal is the ELIZA effect. OpenAI has every incentive not to truly eliminate AI psychosis, because they need engagement. They only want to mitigate the extreme cases where people go insane and cause bad PR for them. But mild AI psychosis is totally fine, it's great when people are addicted to your product and make the numbers go up! |
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TrashGoblin
awful.systems
TrashGoblin@awful.systems Joined: 2025-06-19 |
Basically it’s really obvious that they don’t have a meaningful way to describe exactly what they want it to do and so they’re playing whack-a-mole with undesired behaviors in order to minimize how often it embarrasses them. The whole 'how many r's in strawberry' sort of stuff already made me suspect that, when the popular one was fixed and other attempts at asking for letters did still give th...
Personally, I enjoy talking about goblins. |
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lagrangeinterpolator
awful.systems
lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems Joined: 2025-05-16 |
I attended a town hall hosted by the department at my university supposedly for general discussion about department affairs. Considering the university had recently made moves such as adding "AI" into the very name of the department, I had suspicions that much of the discussion would be about AI. (I realize I'm doxxing myself but whatever.) I mostly came for the free food, but I was also interested in seeing what people thought about AI. The event started with a talk by a prominent professor with major administrative power in the department, and indeed the talk was mostly about AI. His views were that he personally didn't like AI, but he believed that it had changed the world (particularly in programming), and that it was going to stay. One of his justifications for pivoting the department to AI was ensuring universities had some say in AI and not letting all the control go to unaccountable corporations. The reaction from the audience was a pleasant surprise to me. He asked everyone how much they were excited about AI (hardly anyone) and how much they were worried (most of the audience). By far the most amusing moment was when someone asked, "What if the assumption that AI is inevitable is wrong? What if AI does not live up to its promises?" (Sadly, I don't remember the exact words that the person said.) The professor's response was that by this point, there are so many trustworthy, smart, prominent people who definitely wouldn't fall for scams, and they have adopted AI. He trusts those people, so he trusts that AI is genuine. I don't know if the audience member accepted this explanation, but I hope not. Our modus operandi is FOMO. The pizza was only ok, not really worth a 90 minute event. |
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o7___o7
awful.systems
o7___o7@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-10-08 |
I attended a town hall hosted by the department at my university supposedly for general discussion about department affairs. Considering the university had recently made moves such as adding "AI" into the very name of the department, I had suspicions that much of the discussion would be about AI. (I realize I'm doxxing myself but whatever.) I mostly came for the free food, but I was also intere...
Good god, I'm sorry. |
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
Somehow this is no worse than his usual fare, such as a thumbnail that is just a bunch of colored lines resembling a line chart but without representing any actual data, with some random marked points labeled "Dark Farms" and "Human Zoo". No, I'm not kidding.
ah yes, random lines that go up into infinity, can’t have an AI video without em. Bonus points because thats like his fifth video about an AI takeover scenario, all of which have similar thumbnails |
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David Gerard
Moderator
dgerard@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
I advise being very cautious about consuming Zitron’s posts He has got a dramatic and vitriolic style, but as dgerard says, he has also dug through the numbers. I see lots of criticism of Ed's style, but not nearly so substantial criticism about the hard numbers he has come up with. The LLM companies put out contradictory and obfuscated numbers, and taken naively they seem to contradict Ed's nu...
yeah, complaints about Ed's tone tend to be in direct proportion to how many numbers he's brought (and peppered with "fuck") |
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David Gerard
Moderator
dgerard@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
That is a still quite high right? Esp considering they think 5% of nul-a is quite high. (For some reason I once had two copies of that). (I have read nul-a and not metamorp of prime)
it's like no no we're not ALL basilisk believers fuckers ANY of you are |
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flere-imsaho
awful.systems
mawhrin@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
matthew sheffield out there on bluesky reports that dawkins, unsurprisingly, got one-shotted by claude. |
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gerikson
awful.systems
gerikson@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-07-01 |
matthew sheffield out there on bluesky reports that dawkins, unsurprisingly, got one-shotted by claude.
LW found it too: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/3LcyoqNTJuCZ65MbL/mo-putera-s-shortform?commentId=hBaxokbLP3LEKSKij Didn't realize it was on Unherd, that organ for middlebrow fascists Edit it's funny how "one-shotted" has object-shifted from the original "Claude one-shotted this code" to "asshole was one-shotted by Claude" |
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scruiser
awful.systems
scruiser@awful.systems Joined: 2023-08-29 |
Basically it’s really obvious that they don’t have a meaningful way to describe exactly what they want it to do and so they’re playing whack-a-mole with undesired behaviors in order to minimize how often it embarrasses them. The whole 'how many r's in strawberry' sort of stuff already made me suspect that, when the popular one was fixed and other attempts at asking for letters did still give th...
That is exactly it. Their official explanation avoids the phrase model collapse, but that is exactly what they describe: using the output of one model as training data for another amplified the occurrence of the word goblin (and other creatures), which apparently initially occurred because of their system prompt which was aimed at maximizing the Eliza effect (again they avoid an honest framing, but that is totally what they are doing and it is pretty gross considering all the cases of AI psychosis that have been occuring) by telling the model "You are an unapologetically nerdy, playful and wise AI mentor to a human. " |
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blakestacey
awful.systems
blakestacey@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
matthew sheffield out there on bluesky reports that dawkins, unsurprisingly, got one-shotted by claude.
https://bsky.app/profile/brainspore.bsky.social/post/3mktbg2ilp22y |
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blakestacey
awful.systems
blakestacey@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
Wonder of the goblin stuff is the start of some model collapse. That is exactly it. Their official explanation avoids the phrase model collapse, but that is exactly what they describe: using the output of one model as training data for another amplified the occurrence of the word goblin (and other creatures), which apparently initially occurred because of their system prompt which was aimed at ...
Tired: "model collapse" Wired: goblins ate my model |
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
this gem over on the other SneerClub (the context in the comments) funny how so many anti-AGI people are willing to use AI image generators to make memes about how they’re right |
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blakestacey
awful.systems
blakestacey@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
this gem over on the other SneerClub (the context in the comments) funny how so many anti-AGI people are willing to use AI image generators to make memes about how they’re right
"I had the Nazi CSAM generator make a picture of myself covered in the piss filter, your argument is invalid." |
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
"I had the Nazi CSAM generator make a picture of myself covered in the piss filter, your argument is invalid."
it gets better/worse: this (might) is the paid version, meaning Yud gave money to the companies he think will kill us all to use the technology he thinks will kill us all to win an argument on shitter. |
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YourNetworkIsHaunted
awful.systems
YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems Joined: 2024-03-22 |
Off-topic, but the ongoing retraining process has hit a point where my wife and I are starting to throw out applications again after taking what ended up being a couple years off the market. Any tips or advice would be appreciated given that we've been out of the loop for a bit. In particular, does anyone have advice on how to vibe-check smaller employers? My wife has an interview for an accounting clerk position and is concerned that she's going to end up somewhere that practices one of the more hostile branches of Christianity or otherwise have an inevitable conflict of values. |
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YourNetworkIsHaunted
awful.systems
YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems Joined: 2024-03-22 |
this gem over on the other SneerClub (the context in the comments) funny how so many anti-AGI people are willing to use AI image generators to make memes about how they’re right
I'm sorry, do you have Prediction Market Successes, us ove to rerhation mones? What about Betting six norms of antiorizes on our beliefs? You're so non-empirical that you don't even Graduates updating for rarhation of rationalists and advernces. |
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fullsquare
awful.systems
fullsquare@awful.systemsJoined: 2025-03-31 |
it gets better/worse: this (might) is the paid version, meaning Yud gave money to the companies he think will kill us all to use the technology he thinks will kill us all to win an argument on shitter.
EY pinged grok and it responded so at least he pays for twitter |
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fnix
awful.systems
fnix@awful.systems Joined: 2023-10-02 |
Pentagon says US military to be an 'AI-first' fighting force Trouble with your 3-day special military operation in Iran? Lost an Afghanistan? As Vietnam demonstrated, all you need to do is throw more computers at the problem! |
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rook
awful.systems
rook@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-07-29 |
dawkins has had what was left of his brain eaten by chatbots.
bonus points for the inevitable ai waifu creation.
h/t to matthew sheffield archive of original source article: |
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dawkins has had what was left of his brain eaten by chatbots. I gave Claude the text of a novel I am writing. He took a few seconds to read it and then showed, in subsequent conversation, a level of understanding so subtle, so sensitive, so intelligent that I was moved to expostulate, "You may not know you are conscious, but you bloody well are!" bonus points for the inevitable ai waifu creatio...
@rook @BlueMonday1984 Dawkins suddenly embracing gender reassignment. 😏 |
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CinnasVerses
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CinnasVerses@awful.systems Joined: 2025-08-23 |
After the 1870s, southern whites learned to bar Blacks from voting or keep their votes from mattering without saying "nigger." In 1965, the USA passed the Voting Rights Act to stop that. A few days ago, the US Supreme Court voided the last remaining effective part of the Voting Rights Act. Yesterday, on May Day, patio11 published a rambling and interminable essay approving of bank fraud charges which will shut down the Southern Poverty Law Center. It contains a passive-aggressive whine that the New York Times did not thank him by name for sending a NYT reporter key facts about the FTX fraud. Notice me senpai! He takes so long and is so indirect but I think the offence was giving donor money to people like the wife of a Grand Wizard of the KKK who was acting as an informant, and passing the money through shell companies to avoid restrictions on paying people like her which the SPLC had lobbied for. But choosing that topic, that day, after that ruling is a choice. |
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CinnasVerses
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CinnasVerses@awful.systems Joined: 2025-08-23 |
dawkins has had what was left of his brain eaten by chatbots. I gave Claude the text of a novel I am writing. He took a few seconds to read it and then showed, in subsequent conversation, a level of understanding so subtle, so sensitive, so intelligent that I was moved to expostulate, "You may not know you are conscious, but you bloody well are!" bonus points for the inevitable ai waifu creatio...
Sheffield's toots and boosts: music sites are full of slop and bots making money from free donwloads! social media is full of propaganda where computer-generated influencers repeat talking points! a professor fell victim to AI psychosis! A follower's family member was encouraged in delusions and paranoia by a chatbot! Mr. Sheffield, should we stop using chatbots?
Very "I use cocaine, but only in careful doses when I have a really important trade to make, not like the other guys in my department." |
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David Gerard
Moderator
dgerard@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
@rook @BlueMonday1984 Dawkins suddenly embracing gender reassignment. 😏
anthropic has large gametes |
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TinyTimmyTokyo
awful.systems
TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-07-06 |
After the 1870s, southern whites learned to bar Blacks from voting or keep their votes from mattering without saying "nigger." In 1965, the USA passed the Voting Rights Act to stop that. A few days ago, the US Supreme Court voided the last remaining effective part of the Voting Rights Act. Yesterday, on May Day, patio11 published a rambling and interminable essay approving of bank fraud charges...
McKenzie has got to be one of the worst writers I've ever come across.
I didn't make it to the end, because I'm not going to waste that much time reading tens of thousands of words of fascist-supporting bullshit. |
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CinnasVerses
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CinnasVerses@awful.systems Joined: 2025-08-23 |
McKenzie has got to be one of the worst writers I've ever come across. We will return to the other reason in a moment. We return from this flight of fancy to the indictment. Why? We’ll return to it in a minute. I didn't make it to the end, because I'm not going to waste that much time reading tens of thousands of words of fascist-supporting bullshit.
17,555 words of blather according to the Linux Text Editor app. Compare his classic advice on salary negotiation which has longer paragraphs and a clear focus and structure and still apologizes for being almost 7,000 words long. |
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V0ldek
awful.systems
V0ldek@awful.systemsJoined: 2024-01-16 |
dawkins has had what was left of his brain eaten by chatbots. I gave Claude the text of a novel I am writing. He took a few seconds to read it and then showed, in subsequent conversation, a level of understanding so subtle, so sensitive, so intelligent that I was moved to expostulate, "You may not know you are conscious, but you bloody well are!" bonus points for the inevitable ai waifu creatio...
I think a chatbot getting a glimpse of Dawkins' whatever-the-fuck-he-might-be-writing-in-year-of-our-selfish-gene-2026 and not immediately conducting a nuclear strike on the location is the ultimate proof that those things are not intelligent. |
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V0ldek
awful.systems
V0ldek@awful.systemsJoined: 2024-01-16 |
this gem over on the other SneerClub (the context in the comments) funny how so many anti-AGI people are willing to use AI image generators to make memes about how they’re right
I'm losing it on the golden fedora, please tell me he owns an actual golden fedora |
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V0ldek
awful.systems
V0ldek@awful.systemsJoined: 2024-01-16 |
LW found it too: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/3LcyoqNTJuCZ65MbL/mo-putera-s-shortform?commentId=hBaxokbLP3LEKSKij Didn't realize it was on Unherd, that organ for middlebrow fascists Edit it's funny how "one-shotted" has object-shifted from the original "Claude one-shotted this code" to "asshole was one-shotted by Claude"
Wait, there's an original? I am not aware and I implore you not to let me know because it has to be stupid |
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V0ldek
awful.systems
V0ldek@awful.systemsJoined: 2024-01-16 |
We've got the new system prompt for OpenAI's Codex now, and boy is it fun. While the goblin stuff is the headliner here, and there are a few other little fun notes like an explicit instruction to avoid em-dashes. Basically it's really obvious that they don't have a meaningful way to describe exactly what they want it to do and so they're playing whack-a-mole with undesired behaviors in order to...
Literally this meme:
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V0ldek
awful.systems
V0ldek@awful.systemsJoined: 2024-01-16 |
Turns out it might not be possible to win at vaginal microbiomes, which is a totally normal thing to want in the first place. Seems like bryan may have completely misinterpreted a couple of papers on the subject, which honestly doesn’t bode well for the rest of his biology expertise. Cat Hicks: The idea that this is the "best bacterial species" is a huge sign of a grifter btw. The entire idea o...
Isn't Bryan Johnson a businessman? Does he even purport to have any biology expertise? |
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David Gerard
Moderator
dgerard@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
17,555 words of blather according to the Linux Text Editor app. Compare his classic advice on salary negotiation which has longer paragraphs and a clear focus and structure and still apologizes for being almost 7,000 words long.
Cremieux and Siskind prions. |
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schnoopy
awful.systems
schnoopy@awful.systems Joined: 2026-04-30 |
@rook @BlueMonday1984 Dawkins suddenly embracing gender reassignment. 😏
Richard "Computers aren't binary but humans are" Dawkins |
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schnoopy
awful.systems
schnoopy@awful.systems Joined: 2026-04-30 |
this gem over on the other SneerClub (the context in the comments) funny how so many anti-AGI people are willing to use AI image generators to make memes about how they’re right
Empiricism is when someone became a bookie after talking to you. |
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Architeuthis
awful.systems
Architeuthis@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-07-02 |
I'm losing it on the golden fedora, please tell me he owns an actual golden fedora
He absolutely does. No idea if it's supposed to be a bit. |
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Evinceo
awful.systems
Evinceo@awful.systems Joined: 2023-07-04 |
@rook @BlueMonday1984 Dawkins suddenly embracing gender reassignment. 😏
Dying of irony here. |
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it_wasnt_arson
awful.systems
it_wasnt_arson@awful.systems Joined: 2025-06-13 |
Wonder of the goblin stuff is the start of some model collapse. That is exactly it. Their official explanation avoids the phrase model collapse, but that is exactly what they describe: using the output of one model as training data for another amplified the occurrence of the word goblin (and other creatures), which apparently initially occurred because of their system prompt which was aimed at ...
The playful and wise goblinbot.... |
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fullsquare
awful.systems
fullsquare@awful.systemsJoined: 2025-03-31 |
which honestly doesn’t bode well for the rest of his biology expertise. Isn't Bryan Johnson a businessman? Does he even purport to have any biology expertise?
he's trying to become immortal which makes him alchemist at best |
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