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Allero
lemmy.today
Allero@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-20 |
According to Rimu, the main developer of PieFed, all PieFed instances come with a 3000-long block list of resources that cannot be linked to. These include all sorts of right-wing outlets. There is no easy opt-out, forcing existing instances to follow the blocklist. The flagship PieFed instance also rolled out a feature marking various other sorts of outlets - among them, resources considered AI slop and Marxist outlets. These are specific to piefed.social. Related discussion: https://piefed.social/comment/11254679 Why YSK: Many users have hard time choosing between Lemmy, PieFed, and Kbin/Mbin. Users that prefer a more curated and politically uniform experience might prefer PieFed over the alternatives. Users that are right-wing, Marxist, or generally concerned about global censorship of the Fedi-/Threadiverse, might opt for other options instead. Note: The post is only meant to inform users of the potentially important differences between Threadiverse platforms. Any ideologically charged discussions are better left in the respective topic. |
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acockworkorange
mander.xyz
acockworkorange@mander.xyz Joined: 2023-06-09 |
It's interesting that a developer thinks they have authority over other people's instances, while using it to block authoritarian discourse (both right wing and m-l). |
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lovingisliving
anarchist.nexus
lovingisliving@anarchist.nexus Joined: 2026-04-22 |
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queerlilhayseed
piefed.blahaj.zone
queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-09-27 |
the list for the curious. I don't mind if rimu wants to maintain a default blocklist, if I maintained my own fediverse app I would probably make something similar, based on my own preferences, to cut down on the mod work. If you want your piefed instance to allow botfarm produce, disable the blocklist or just fork it and live your dream. |
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WagnasT
piefed.world
WagnasT@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-10 |
Not a good look. I can empathize with not wanting right wing propaganda machines to profit from your work but it should at least be opt in and not curated by a single person. |
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one_old_coder
piefed.social
one_old_coder@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-08 |
Feel free to self-host and empty the blocklist. As for the far-left and far-right, they love censorship. |
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CerebralHawks
lemmy.dbzer0.com
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2025-08-18 |
My solution: make blocklists subscription-based. I don't mean for money, though like most of the Fediverse, donations would be accepted. What I mean is, there'd be an independent site that maintains a list of everything that could be blocked with keywords that specify why you might want to block it. People who run instances can make a custom, dynamic block list based on keywords that they want to block. Say we have a tag, "paedo shit." I suppose most people would want to block that. But say we also have a tag, "Zionist." So some instance would block that. Others wouldn't. Now say you're running some site, you go to this site and see you're flagged as Zionist. You don't think you are, so you contest it with your reasoning. This opens a thread and anyone can comment on it. Now when you go to block all "Zionist" sources, you have an option to also include all "contested" sources as well. If you say yes, it doesn't matter what they say. You're taking the source repository at their word. If you say no, you are presented with the sources that have contested it, and you can read the threads, and add or exclude them as you like. How is this a bad plan? (In the words of my boy Luis Guzman from The Count of Monte Cristo (2002, Kevin Reynolds)) |
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Seppo
sopuli.xyz
Seppo@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2026-05-03 |
Feel free to self-host and empty the blocklist. As for the far-left and far-right, they love censorship.
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gigachad
piefed.social
gigachad@piefed.social Joined: 2025-07-04 |
What always pissed me off was the general block of green texts, which I find funny. Especially because it took several months until I got to know why and how they are blocked exactly. |
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danekrae
lemmy.world
danekrae@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-11 |
I think a lot of sites associated with terrorists are blocked in lot of places... |
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Courant d'air 🍃
jlai.lu
Courantdair@jlai.lu Joined: 2024-05-30 |
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TheMinions
lemmy.dbzer0.com
TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-06-26 |
the list for the curious. I don't mind if rimu wants to maintain a default blocklist, if I maintained my own fediverse app I would probably make something similar, based on my own preferences, to cut down on the mod work. If you want your piefed instance to allow botfarm produce, disable the blocklist or just fork it and live your dream.
I scrolled the list until about the P, at which point I accidentally tapped on the top portion of my screen and went all the way back up. Notably the block list includes Harry Potter affiliated sites, Fox News, and Info Wars. Everything else pretty much just looks like slop or are sources I’ve NEVER heard of. Some were local papers, I think? But none that I would have recognized immediately. This really seems like a mountain made out of a molehill. |
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flandish
lemmy.world
flandish@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-04-08 |
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what are the differences? i signed up with this instance but am still learning. |
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lovingisliving
anarchist.nexus
lovingisliving@anarchist.nexus Joined: 2026-04-22 |
what are the differences? i signed up with this instance but am still learning.
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RobotToaster
mander.xyz
RobotToaster@mander.xyzJoined: 2023-09-13 |
People were mad at Lemmy having a hard coded blocklist before, fortunately the dev sensibly removed it. This is worse than the one Lemmy had. |
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queerlilhayseed
piefed.blahaj.zone
queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-09-27 |
I scrolled the list until about the P, at which point I accidentally tapped on the top portion of my screen and went all the way back up. Notably the block list includes Harry Potter affiliated sites, Fox News, and Info Wars. Everything else pretty much just looks like slop or are sources I’ve NEVER heard of. Some were local papers, I think? But none that I would have recognized immediately. Th...
There are tons of spam factories that pose as local newspapers. The first one that comes to mind is the Denver Guardian, which gained brief notoriety during Trump's rise to power. But there are a million of them, probably literally. They are easy to make and they are easy to launder through social media bot networks. |
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dhut5uyr3uugdeuiicse7kag
kbin.earth
dhut5uyr3uugdeuiicse7kag@kbin.earth Joined: 2026-04-17 |
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Mbin exists, but it never seems to get as much attention :/ |
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ikt
aussie.zone
Eyekaytee@aussie.zoneJoined: 2023-06-17 |
If this is the most mainstream of websites being blocked I think I'm ok, piefed is still great software even with these sites included in a linking block |
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NoForwadSlashS
piefed.social
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social Joined: 2025-07-09 |
It's interesting that a developer thinks they have authority over other people's instances, while using it to block authoritarian discourse (both right wing and m-l).
What part of having a blocklist for your own instance is asserting authority over other instances? |
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Caveman
piefed.social
Caveman@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-07 |
goddamnit goddamnit goddamnit Why does every fediverse reddit clone have to pull this shit? Like that blocklist isn't horrible - now - but what if the dude pulls a fetterman and next year he is blocking shit you agree with? Politically motivated censorship is the type of thing many people are trying to get away from. |
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Dave
lemmy.nz
Dave@lemmy.nzJoined: 2023-06-02 |
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Piefed isn't a fork of Lemmy, it's completely independent code. They just speak the same language. |
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RobotToaster
mander.xyz
RobotToaster@mander.xyzJoined: 2023-09-13 |
the list for the curious. I don't mind if rimu wants to maintain a default blocklist, if I maintained my own fediverse app I would probably make something similar, based on my own preferences, to cut down on the mod work. If you want your piefed instance to allow botfarm produce, disable the blocklist or just fork it and live your dream.
The fact that it includes wikileaks tells me everything I need to know. |
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TheMinions
lemmy.dbzer0.com
TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-06-26 |
There are tons of spam factories that pose as local newspapers. The first one that comes to mind is the Denver Guardian, which gained brief notoriety during Trump's rise to power. But there are a million of them, probably literally. They are easy to make and they are easy to launder through social media bot networks.
Yeah, I saw some sources for a city local to me, but they didn’t match for our actual local paper or papers. Which was weird. That explains a lot. |
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Dave
lemmy.nz
Dave@lemmy.nzJoined: 2023-06-02 |
goddamnit goddamnit goddamnit Why does every fediverse reddit clone have to pull this shit? Like that blocklist isn't horrible - now - but what if the dude pulls a fetterman and next year he is blocking shit you agree with? Politically motivated censorship is the type of thing many people are trying to get away from.
This is why open source is so important. If the dev goes crazy and blocks all sorts of stuff the community can fork the code and remove the block list, while still remaining interoperable with Lemmy, other Piefeds, Mbin. That's way different to say Facebook where they fight to the death to stop you using an app that isn't their official one. |
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𝙈𝙞𝙖
quokk.au
Quokka@quokk.auJoined: 2025-06-09 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-left_politics
Terrifying! |
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jatone
lemmy.dbzer0.com
jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-10-13 |
goddamnit goddamnit goddamnit Why does every fediverse reddit clone have to pull this shit? Like that blocklist isn't horrible - now - but what if the dude pulls a fetterman and next year he is blocking shit you agree with? Politically motivated censorship is the type of thing many people are trying to get away from.
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Sergio
piefed.social
Sergio@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-01 |
goddamnit goddamnit goddamnit Why does every fediverse reddit clone have to pull this shit? Like that blocklist isn't horrible - now - but what if the dude pulls a fetterman and next year he is blocking shit you agree with? Politically motivated censorship is the type of thing many people are trying to get away from.
Then you move to another instance. |
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🦄🦄🦄
feddit.org
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-24 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-left_politics
Sounds good tbh. Well, except for the authoritarian bullshit of course. |
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xep
discuss.online
xep@discuss.onlineJoined: 2025-08-06 |
I tried initially and it was too opinionated for me so I switched out. Turns out it's even more opinionated than I'd expected. |
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ramble81
lemmy.zip
ramble81@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-08 |
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So join a different instance or deploy your own server. We don’t need a third alternative. All are interconnected via ActivityPub, so you can choose what blocks you want, who you want to federate with, etc. If you’re choosing to sign up on someone’s instance you’re choosing to agree to how they’re managing it. That’s frankly why I like Lemmy.zip, the only time they’ve defederated is for a technical issue was was causing the servers to crash. Beyond that, I’m treated like an adult capable of making my own choices of which instances I want to block or interact with. |
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ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠
slrpnk.net
Nemo@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-07-01 |
Oh no, so when I eventually set up my own piefed instance, I'll have to spend ten more minutes then initially expected? That's awful. |
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azuth
sh.itjust.works
freeman@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-15 |
People were mad at Lemmy having a hard coded blocklist before, fortunately the dev sensibly removed it. This is worse than the one Lemmy had.
Blocklist? I though it was swearword censor. |
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werty
sh.itjust.works
werty@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-03-06 |
Lol @ politically uniform experience |
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Caveman
piefed.social
Caveman@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-07 |
what if the dude pulls a fetterman and next year he is blocking shit you agree with? Then you move to another instance.
This says its all piefed instances |
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Caveman
piefed.social
Caveman@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-07 |
This is why open source is so important. If the dev goes crazy and blocks all sorts of stuff the community can fork the code and remove the block list, while still remaining interoperable with Lemmy, other Piefeds, Mbin. That's way different to say Facebook where they fight to the death to stop you using an app that isn't their official one.
Thats a fair and reasonable take |
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Caveman
piefed.social
Caveman@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-07 |
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If you can't opt out as an instance its a bit more than "default settings" imo And my whole issue is not wanting too wide a net being labeled under "trash sites" I hate Fox News and Infowars but I also hate them being hidden from me with no way to get around that besides switching from piefed to a different service. Who is to say what the next trash site will be? Spam is one thing but I don't need a net nanny. |
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Joined: 2025-10-14 |
Totally good-faith summary. Great work. |
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tburkhol
slrpnk.net
tburkhol@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-05-01 |
If this is the most mainstream of websites being blocked I think I'm ok, piefed is still great software even with these sites included in a linking block
Wonder if they'll unblock Infowars, now that it's The Onion. |
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Luci
lemmy.ca
Luci@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-09 |
I don’t need to agree with the sites to know this isn’t a good idea. The list is full of junk but it also has sites like fox news. Should be an opt in. |
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Skullgrid
lemmy.world
Skullgrid@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-29 |
I don’t need to agree with the sites to know this isn’t a good idea. The list is full of junk but it also has sites like fox news. Should be an opt in.
but then again, you repeat yourself |
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flandish
lemmy.world
flandish@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-04-08 |
Piefed isn't a fork of Lemmy, it's completely independent code. They just speak the same language.
so they’re both hosts that serve and share content using the same protocol? |
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Skullgrid
lemmy.world
Skullgrid@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-29 |
Wonder if they'll unblock Infowars, now that it's The Onion.
because software requires maintenance, maintenance requires time, and the onion only got their hands on infowars very recently. |
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Skullgrid
lemmy.world
Skullgrid@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-29 |
I scrolled the list until about the P, at which point I accidentally tapped on the top portion of my screen and went all the way back up. Notably the block list includes Harry Potter affiliated sites, Fox News, and Info Wars. Everything else pretty much just looks like slop or are sources I’ve NEVER heard of. Some were local papers, I think? But none that I would have recognized immediately. Th...
unless you are interested in spreading the same kind of ideas that are on those sites, like IDK, CCP propaganda, or far right deals, or transphobia. |
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bufalo1973
piefed.social
bufalo1973@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-09-01 |
My solution: make blocklists subscription-based. I don't mean for money, though like most of the Fediverse, donations would be accepted. What I mean is, there'd be an independent site that maintains a list of everything that could be blocked with keywords that specify why you might want to block it. People who run instances can make a custom, dynamic block list based on keywords that they want ...
Adding a check for the latests posts and the one flagged and see if any of those are blacklisted would mark the instance as not reliable. If 24 hours later the links aren't down it gets an automatic block. |
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Skullgrid
lemmy.world
Skullgrid@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-29 |
Based. Fuck accelerationists and fuck nazis. And you know what, censorship is a problem. But at the moment, the choking permeation of authoritarians is worse, and the authoritarians could use some of their own fucking medicine for a bit until shit calms down. |
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Sergio
piefed.social
Sergio@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-01 |
This says its all piefed instances
Any piefed instance can empty the list of right-wing sites, either as a whole or on a case-by-case basis. Source: https://piefed.social/comment/11254679 |
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arin
lemmy.world
arin@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
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Can't call conservatives retarded or leftist mods will delete the comment |
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Caveman
piefed.social
Caveman@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-07 |
Any piefed instance can empty the list of right-wing sites, either as a whole or on a case-by-case basis. Source: https://piefed.social/comment/11254679
Thats good to know - but the fact the thread you link to shows some sites get a big WARNING COMMUNISM DETECTED doesn't make me feel much better XD |
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ulkesh
piefed.social
ulkesh@piefed.social Joined: 2026-01-02 |
Given that many "right-wing" sites are full of lies, bigotry, and hate, I think I'm quite fine with this. |
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jatone
lemmy.dbzer0.com
jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-10-13 |
If you can't opt out as an instance its a bit more than "default settings" imo And my whole issue is not wanting too wide a net being labeled under "trash sites" I hate Fox News and Infowars but I also hate them being hidden from me with no way to get around that besides switching from piefed to a different service. Who is to say what the next trash site will be? Spam is one thing but I don't n...
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UniversalBasicJustice
quokk.au
UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.auJoined: 2026-01-29 |
so they’re both hosts that serve and share content using the same protocol?
Same backend, different frontend |
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