I just drooled all over myself and I have no idea why

Maybe they just wanted to deny the positive feedback to him.

I've heard that same joke a million times. It's what I'd expect to find at the top of a Reddit thread.

It's a witty joke but a common one, so wouldn't chuckle tbh

Too obvious, don't reward someone for going after low hanging fruit...

Well, they are there to learn after all, he didn't assume his students knew, and asked if they did. One guy in the class knew. Seems like it's working itself out, and he just needs to keep that one loaded for later in the semester when people are primed to get it.

It’s totally overrated compared to Eton Mess tbh

on a job interview in IT, an interviewer asked me if I understood the difference between TCP and UDP. After giving the best technical explanation I could, I ended with

I could tell you a UDP joke, but I'm not sure if you'd get it.

He said go ahead

I paused, that was it.

Kind of awkward.

I didn't get the job.

I would hope the professor would have at least chuckled.

Or everyone has heard that same joke a thousand times already

Nothing boosts your impression on people like making them feel stupid. RIP

The only acceptable response is “I heard he was good at making bitches wet.”

Imagine he hears this joke everytime he makes the question...

The thing is it is highly doubtful that Pavlov ever used a bell. Also the experiments were no fun for the dogs.

He redirected the animals' digestive fluids outside the body, where they could be measured.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning#procedures

https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2022/12/the-shocking-and-gruesome-truth-about-pavlovs-dogs-and-how-the-results-are-commonly-misinterpreted/

I wouldn't expect this joke to make someone feel stupid if they know what UDP is, so it feels like it was a safe bet

the experiments were no fun for the dogs

I would really expect most experiments to be no fun for animals that are experimented on

Unfortunately I don’t know enough about udp to get it, is it that you dumped the information before like, asking about it?

Interviewing is (ideally) quite a structured type of conversation, when is a job interview. A lot of people have to lock in pretty hard to deal with how unnatural it is, and they might not have the spare bandwidth to catch a joke.

Especially not someone from HR, they're fucking troglodytes.

He could have salivated a bit then.

Tcp and udp are to sum it up, internet messaging protocols. UDP specifically is when you send a message over without guaranteeing your message was received. TCP on the otherhand is more like a handshake where you send a message and expect a response back.

The joke is basically UDP=I dont know if you would get it

I completely agree with your first paragraph.
But TheFogan was probably not explaining UDP to an HR person in this scenario.

Should have accompanied the jokes with treats

I will also tell you a joke about TCP, and if you don't get it, I will repeat.

Oh I've seen some pretty bad interviewing, where HR is sent in with a question sheet and a box to tick for which key words the interviewee mentioned per question.

Obviously a red flag and useless method of interviewing, but it does happen frighteningly often. Especially where the IT team is so understaffed, they can't spare the time to do interviews.

Since Pavlow is so famous you see often the dogs depicted as cute and someone ringing a bell. Not as fixated pepsin machines. At least in the past that was my mental image. Might be a me problem.

I am ignorant and unwitty - I don't get it. I thought pavlov was a game.

There's pretty basic UDP, that sends without confirming receiving. And instead of fixing it, they just slapped another protocol, TCP, on top of it.

With only UDP, you don't know, if you get it.

Well sure, but the context for my comment was the unnatural-ness of a structured job interview. If you're not just pantsing it, such interviews follow a script, and that's not how we normally talk to each other.

This is fucking funny.

No, you're right about the images, it's marketing as usual, but I never thought about this

Oomph, buzzword keyword guessing sounds like great interview indeed

good pun

This is done, especially in government work, to limit bias in the interview process. Ideally, though, the people conducting the interviews understand the questions they're asking and can use some judgement and give credit if someone explained a concept but didn't hit the specific keyword.

Yeah, but that’s not what this was.

Interviewer asked about thing then does not get joke about most basic property of thing. Either the interviewer is incredibly incompetent or incapable of getting a joke.

It’s a weird situation even for a job interview. (& I’ve been on job interviews that can only be described as tribunals with 8 judges grilling you simultaneously.)

it's worse if they then continue with. "ok, well, it's interesting you said that his name rings a bell because the experiment..." like you're too dumb to have even made the joke you did.

Hey man, it's not my fault other people are stupid.

I asked someone this same question in an interview, not so much that it was important, but to see if they had general basic networking knowledge like they claimed to on their resume. Their highly confident explanation was "TCP is for sending, UDP is for receiving" They did not get the job, though not just because of that.

I mean, you would think most people would be used to that feeling by now.

Yeah I believe i remember roughly the explanation I gave to the interviewer.

TCP basically takes the time to confirm every detail actually was recieved, used in almost all situations in networking where accuracy is critical.

UDP is basically when speed is the more important than everything being perfect, (we were on a zoom call), Like say this video call, if the background gets blurry or a few frames drop or even my face distorts for a few seconds, that would be less of an inconvenience to us than if the network took the time and made sure to transmit every frame exactly as the camera picks it up, at the cost of an extra 10 seconds of lag in the call.

That joke deserved a laugh. The class clearly wasn’t conditioned properly.

Technically correct! Just leaving out a few details.

I would have said "wasn't Pavlov the guy who had a dog named Ruby Begonia?" and even the prof wouldn't have known what the fuck I was talking about.

FWIW I used to hang out with behavioral psychology grad students, who were in the Skinnerian tradition of operant conditioning research. They mostly worked with pigeons, and to transport the birds they used juice pitchers with a few air holes cut into the bottom. I asked them once how they got the birds into the pitchers and they laughed and showed me: they would just open the bird's cage and hold the pitcher up and the birds would dive head-first into the pitcher, sometimes knocking themselves out in the process.

As part of the research protocol, the birds were kept on a diet that included about 80% of their normal caloric intake; the rest of their food was provided by the reinforcements of the experiments themselves (this was done to maximize the reinforcement effect of the rewards). So those birds were way the fuck into those experiments. To add to that, these students were all behavioral pharmacologists, so in addition to getting food reinforcement the birds were also getting drugs like cocaine and heroin.

BTW a lot of people confuse the operant conditioning research with the people who put animals into cages and shock them. This is definitely not what BF Skinner was all about. In fact he wrote books on the subject of how punishment is a bad thing for all animals (including humans and pigeons).

Humour is not universal, and cracking jokes in an interview is high risk no reward. I've rejected candidates that made inappropriate jokes before. Intentions don't really matter, there's 10 more candidates.

What was that Marge meme? It's true, but he shouldn't say it :P

Context on Ruby?
Im lost.

Ask David Tenet.