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antonim lemmy.world antonim@lemmy.world
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#52 · Quote Reply

So you've got no response to their actual point, just nitpicking

Why would I have to have a response to the main point? Are we permitted to only ever talk about the US's faults, and can freely make shit up to amplify that point?

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VOIDPTR lemmy.ml PanArab@lemmy.ml
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#53 · Quote Reply

Okay I get it, but clearly it's Israel and Russia Thinking the US is the one stinking up the world is just ill informed

The US literally stinked part of the world with Agent Orange destroying lives for generations

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VOIDPTR lemmy.ml PanArab@lemmy.ml
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#54 · Quote Reply

I despise the current american regime but ignoring the advances China is having seem a bit ignorant in itself. I wasnt rooting for china with this comment, just sharing what i read about tech advancements from their side of the world although they stole a lot of tech from the western world by infiltrating and spying on us.

Agent Orange is not just a nickname for Trump. Look it up.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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#55 · Quote Reply

Why would I have to have a response to the main point? Are we permitted to only ever talk about the US's faults, and can freely make shit up to amplify that point?

So, nitpicking

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IronBird lemmy.world IronBird@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-06
#56 · Quote Reply

So, which is the real threat, the part of the country that wouldn't exist without the other par of of the country's support, or the part of the country that has over 40% of the world's military budget?

both, it's really not a hard concept to grasp

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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#57 · Quote Reply

No, it’s Israel. We are absolutely their bitch. China wishes they had that level of power.

Israel is a vassal state of the US Empire, not the other way around. China isn't an imperial power nor does it desire to become one.

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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#58 · Quote Reply

TL;DR of the linked article: CCP propaganda on social media is swaying the youngest generations to be less staunch about independence from China.

Why do you think it's simply CPC propaganda, and not a change in conditions as the socialist mainland rises and capitalism everywhere is failing to keep up?

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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#59 · (edited) Quote Reply

Okay I get it, but clearly it's Israel and Russia Thinking the US is the one stinking up the world is just ill informed

Israel is a vassal state of the US Empire, and Russia is not a threat except to Kiev. The US Empire is by far the biggest threat to the world.

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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#60 · Quote Reply

I despise the current american regime but ignoring the advances China is having seem a bit ignorant in itself. I wasnt rooting for china with this comment, just sharing what i read about tech advancements from their side of the world although they stole a lot of tech from the western world by infiltrating and spying on us.

Why? China isn't imperialist, and is charting an alternative via its socialist system.

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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#61 · Quote Reply

Chiba isn't more advanced than Europe or the US. The main difference is that they don't put all their trust in the free market™ but instead chose to use and invest in already established tech.

China is actually more advanced than Europe and the US when it comes to certain areas like manufacturing, and is at a peer level when it comes to tech (soon to surpass).

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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#62 · Quote Reply

I think the Israel option will actually more accurate given that they're the ones driving policy in the US. #3. https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/top-pacs/2024

Israel is not in control of the US. Israel is a vassal of the US Empire.

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egrets lemmy.world egrets@lemmy.world
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#63 · (edited) Quote Reply

Why do you think it's simply CPC propaganda, and not a change in conditions as the socialist mainland rises and capitalism everywhere is failing to keep up?

Because I read the linked article.

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TankovayaDiviziya lemmy.world TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-22
#64 · Quote Reply

I'm a bit surprised about Philippines because they are very Americanphile, and also having a spat with China on South China Sea.

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cepelinas sopuli.xyz cepelinas@sopuli.xyz
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#65 · Quote Reply

Seems obvious enough that it would be Russia

Can confirm.

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zealouscurmedgeon lemmy.ml zealouscurmedgeon@lemmy.ml
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#66 · Quote Reply

For all the ones making it about Trump, it has never been better with the other side of their uniparty. Imperialism and wars are bipartisan. Fuck that whole country and their shitlibs, who will be perfectly happy when they can have their 'democracy' back and keep terrorizing other countries as long as they aren't inconvenienced.
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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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#67 · Quote Reply

I'm a bit surprised about Philippines because they are very Americanphile, and also having a spat with China on South China Sea.

China never started a war that cut off Philippines from energy supplies threatening a famine.

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Riverside reddthat.com Riverside@reddthat.com
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#68 · Quote Reply

threatened to attack Canada, Mexico, Denmark? Not to mention Russia. likely instigated coups [...] Belarus Where the absolute fuck do you get this information from, Russia Today?
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Bloomcole lemmy.world Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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#69 · (edited) Quote Reply

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I'm not convinced it's not an act.
There have been a few others more moderate 'clowns' like Dubya or Boris Johnson.
People easily underestimate those people and they get away with a lot more.
The way he acts in interviews tells me he's not that stupid.
Remains ambiguous and unpredictable. Despite the obviously silly statements included or idiotic tweets you should separate them from the actions.
A US president can make decisions by himself but they always work for the same sponsors and people behind the curtains first.
If he wants war with Iran it's because they chose that, not him.
And they can all hide behind and blame this 'loose cannon'.
A good example is NATO.
No way Genocide Joe and his vassal warmongers VDL and Kallas could get our EU countries to pay more, as they wanted.
Many didn't even make the 2% which was the previous deal.
All it took was for Trump to create a row and suddenly we're supposedly on 'our own'.
Now we're wasting 5% or more and massively buying their war crap.
In 2 years he will be gone and the next face will fix our partnership NATO extortion racket'.
But in no way we will pay less.
We vassals can pay and suffer more from antagonizing Russia for their benefit, and they can spend more on harassing China, Iran or whatever country not bending to their will.

Edit:
And now we have Lemmy and the rest of the world laughing at his UNO "I've got all the cards" post.
Look how stupid he is!
Why wouldn't he choose normal playing cards, real american ones that you play poker with?
Do people believe there isn't a team running his accounts and none of them know how UNO is played despite choosing that particular game?
Looks like he really pulled the UNO reverse card.
Who's the sucker here?

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FoundFootFootage78 lemmy.ml Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml
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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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#71 · Quote Reply

TL;DR of the linked article: CCP propaganda on social media is swaying the youngest generations to be less staunch about independence from China.

more like turd reich propaganda failing to sway people into becoming the next Ukraine

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humanspiral lemmy.ca humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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#72 · Quote Reply

Israel exists to provide the US with plausible deniability, it operates within the US interests and under its political and military cover.

It's a government alliance/colonial control arrangement. People are the ones being surveyed and have clearer picture. IT would be interesting to see how close Russophobia propagandized EU countries are close to the correct answer.

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TankovayaDiviziya lemmy.world TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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#73 · (edited) Quote Reply

China never started a war that cut off Philippines from energy supplies threatening a famine.

Although China is squatting in a shoal within 200 nautical mile from Philippine coast and bullying Filipino fishermen.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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#74 · Quote Reply

Although China is squatting in a shoal within 200 nautical mile from Philippine coast and bullying Filipino fishermen.

Yeah, having a dispute over a shoal is so much worse than being starved to death. 🤡

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humanspiral lemmy.ca humanspiral@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2024-10-23
#75 · Quote Reply

TL;DR of the linked article: CCP propaganda on social media is swaying the youngest generations to be less staunch about independence from China.

Like all other wars, Taiwan would be a US proxy push to suicide Taiwan. There's a reason people would be cautious, and as recent as a couple of years ago, 80% of population favoured some version of status quo.

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Tiresia slrpnk.net Tiresia@slrpnk.net
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#76 · Quote Reply

both, it's really not a hard concept to grasp

Ah yes, enlightened centrism. One of the easier concepts to grasp, indeed. Great to hold on to if you want to stop thinking about something.

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antonim lemmy.world antonim@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#77 · (edited) Quote Reply

So, nitpicking

Keep this mindset for the next time you see someone spreading Israeli propaganda, the same way you react to Russian propaganda.

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TankovayaDiviziya lemmy.world TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-22
#78 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yeah, having a dispute over a shoal is so much worse than being starved to death. 🤡

Tell that to Filipino fishermen deprived of their livelihood. I bet you never heard of their complaints, let alone actually listen to them. But what do I know, from a poc point of view, you are just a racist, middle class suburban white knight actually living comfortably in the West, professing faux concerns on people who actually has to live amongst communists. Because you want to get that dopamine hit from larping as a whiteknightclown 🤡🤡

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antonim lemmy.world antonim@lemmy.world
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#79 · Quote Reply

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All regime changes have been caused by US, therefore we should assume that all regime changes have been caused by US without further evidence. Textbook cultism.

pro-capitalist pro-NATO regime change

The first part sure is relevant when talking about Belarus XD

evidence hasn’t surfaced yet

It's been 5 years since the Belarusian protests have been extinguished and the opposition neutralised, and Belarus and Russia still have found no evidence? One might even start to consider the option that there is none in the first place, but luckily you made sure to state that it doesn't matter anyway, since all regime changes were orchestrated by the US anyway.

Of course, those dumb third world Slavs must simply LOVE their right-wing autocrat who's been ruling over their underdeveloped country for a quarter of a century and putting most of the opposition into jail, they NEVER could've come up with the idea of voting against him or protesting!

You know what's funny? I didn't even ask for "extraordinary evidence", I expected just a minimal explanation, some connection based on something at least slightly better than circular cultish logic.

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muusemuuse sh.itjust.works muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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#80 · Quote Reply

Israel is a vassal state of the US Empire, not the other way around. China isn't an imperial power nor does it desire to become one.

Israel was intended to be a vassal state but their intelligent operation was really successful and they have incredible influence on the US and can flex whenever they need something. Look at the whole Epstein situation.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-01-18
#81 · Quote Reply

Tell that to Filipino fishermen deprived of their livelihood. I bet you never heard of their complaints, let alone actually listen to them. But what do I know, from a poc point of view, you are just a racist, middle class suburban white knight actually living comfortably in the West, professing faux concerns on people who actually has to live amongst communists. Because you want to get that dop...

bravo, you could not have possibly written a more imbecilic comment

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TankovayaDiviziya lemmy.world TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-22
#82 · Quote Reply

bravo, you could not have possibly written a more imbecilic comment

Why? Hits on your nerve that you're actually whiteclowning??

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-01-18
#83 · Quote Reply

Why? Hits on your nerve that you're actually whiteclowning??

Nah, I love getting free entertainment from internet jesters like you.

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-10
#84 · Quote Reply

Although China is squatting in a shoal within 200 nautical mile from Philippine coast and bullying Filipino fishermen.

Kay

The US murdered over a million people in the Philippines during its turn at colonization after the Spanish.

China shouldn't deprive fishermen of their livelihood, but since we're comparing them to the US it's clear which is worse.

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Phoenixz lemmy.ca phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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#85 · Quote Reply

Who voted for Iran?

Israel

Of course

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TankovayaDiviziya lemmy.world TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-22
#86 · Quote Reply

Kay The US murdered over a million people in the Philippines during its turn at colonization after the Spanish. China shouldn't deprive fishermen of their livelihood, but since we're comparing them to the US it's clear which is worse.

China is already squatting in Philippines' sovereign waters, and you think China won't do anything in the future? Of course, you would not, because you are cheerleading your own team regardless of your own team being guilty of the same imperialism that you pretend to be against.

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ILikeBoobies lemmy.ca ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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#87 · (edited) Quote Reply

Kay The US murdered over a million people in the Philippines during its turn at colonization after the Spanish. China shouldn't deprive fishermen of their livelihood, but since we're comparing them to the US it's clear which is worse.

You can appreciate which event is more recent given this is a contemporary poll and the amount of propaganda the US would have fed the Phillipines since then.

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Riverside reddthat.com Riverside@reddthat.com
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#88 · Quote Reply

All regime changes have been caused by US, therefore we should assume that all regime changes have been caused by US without further evidence. Textbook cultism. pro-capitalist pro-NATO regime change The first part sure is relevant when talking about Belarus XD evidence hasn’t surfaced yet It's been 5 years since the Belarusian protests have been extinguished and the opposition neutralised, and ...
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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
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#89 · Quote Reply

China is already squatting in Philippines' sovereign waters, and you think China won't do anything in the future? Of course, you would not, because you are cheerleading your own team regardless of your own team being guilty of the same imperialism that you pretend to be against.

China is already squatting in Philippines’ sovereign waters, and you think China won’t do anything in the future?

I think this conflict will be resolved peacefully because neither country benefits from open conflict. China doesn't really do war.

Besides, the US-caused energy crisis is going to do more to deprive Philippine fishermen of their livelihoods than China ever has.

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
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#90 · Quote Reply

You can appreciate which event is more recent given this is a contemporary poll and the amount of propaganda the US would have fed the Phillipines since then.

But, this poll still shows that people in the Philippines still see the US as the greater threat? Despite China's more recent spat in the South China Sea, despite the propaganda, the Philippines still sees the US as the greatest threat to the world. Japan is the only country that sees China as a threat, which mostly stems from imperial humiliation at China defeating Japanese occupation.

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TankovayaDiviziya lemmy.world TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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#91 · (edited) Quote Reply

China is already squatting in Philippines’ sovereign waters, and you think China won’t do anything in the future? I think this conflict will be resolved peacefully because neither country benefits from open conflict. China doesn't really do war. Besides, the US-caused energy crisis is going to do more to deprive Philippine fishermen of their livelihoods than China ever has.

I think this conflict will be resolved peacefully because neither country benefits from open conflict. China doesn't really do war.

They are squatting, with the Chinese warships within Philippine territory without permission.

Besides, the US-caused energy crisis is going to do more to deprive Philippine fishermen of their livelihoods than China ever has.

Typical cope.

Sure, as if being water-hosed by Chinese navy to prevent you from fishing is caused by oil supply restrictions!

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RiverRock lemmy.ml RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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#92 · Quote Reply

Tell that to Filipino fishermen deprived of their livelihood. I bet you never heard of their complaints, let alone actually listen to them. But what do I know, from a poc point of view, you are just a racist, middle class suburban white knight actually living comfortably in the West, professing faux concerns on people who actually has to live amongst communists. Because you want to get that dop...

You look so hinged right now

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RiverRock lemmy.ml RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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#93 · Quote Reply

The every school boy knows fallacy. Appeal to supposed consensus. Cute. Not convincing. But cute.

Talking like Scott Adams

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TankovayaDiviziya lemmy.world TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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#94 · Quote Reply

You look so hinged right now

Have you actually spoken to people you purport to defend what they think of China?

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
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#95 · (edited) Quote Reply

I think this conflict will be resolved peacefully because neither country benefits from open conflict. China doesn't really do war. They are squatting, with the Chinese warships within Philippine territory without permission. Besides, the US-caused energy crisis is going to do more to deprive Philippine fishermen of their livelihoods than China ever has. Typical cope. Sure, as if being water-ho...

They are squatting, with the Chinese warships within Philippine territory without permission.

Okay, and I think this will be resolved peacefully. This hardly makes China the biggest threat to the world.

Sure, as if being water-hosed by Chinese navy to prevent you from fishing is caused by oil supply restrictions!

No, but being unable to fuel vessels and trucks after the pumps run dry will cause systemic problems that everyone will feel. An energy crisis hurts all fishers in all of their territorial waters, and then on top of that hurts literally every single person in the country. It's not just that there are going to be boats that can't even go out to sea because they aren't able to get fuel, there are going to be people that can't do any of their jobs in any part of the country. This is the prelude to an economic collapse.

The US is the biggest threat to the world and everyone in the world knows it, including people in the Philippines.

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TankovayaDiviziya lemmy.world TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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#96 · (edited) Quote Reply

They are squatting, with the Chinese warships within Philippine territory without permission. Okay, and I think this will be resolved peacefully. This hardly makes China the biggest threat to the world. Sure, as if being water-hosed by Chinese navy to prevent you from fishing is caused by oil supply restrictions! No, but being unable to fuel vessels and trucks after the pumps run dry will cause...

And what does that have to do with China doing their own imperialism by water-hosing Filipino and Vietnamese fishermen well before the war, depriving fishermen of their livelihood? What makes you think China will not escalate from waterhosing when they are already sending warships?

I asked this to many of your "comrades". Have you actually spoken to Filipinos what they think of China? Did you physically go to Vietnam or Philippines and asked them of their opinions?

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
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#97 · Quote Reply

And what does that have to do with China doing their own imperialism by water-hosing Filipino and Vietnamese fishermen well before the war, depriving fishermen of their livelihood? What makes you think China will not escalate from waterhosing when they are already sending warships? I asked this to many of your "comrades". Have you actually spoken to Filipinos what they think of China? Did you p...

The OP is about Filipinos seeing the US as a bigger threat than China. They're literally telling us that, in the survey.

You're the one that seems intent on ignoring what they have to say, here.

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TankovayaDiviziya lemmy.world TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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#98 · Quote Reply

The OP is about Filipinos seeing the US as a bigger threat than China. They're literally telling us that, in the survey. You're the one that seems intent on ignoring what they have to say, here.
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ILikeBoobies lemmy.ca ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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#99 · Quote Reply

But, this poll still shows that people in the Philippines still see the US as the greater threat? Despite China's more recent spat in the South China Sea, despite the propaganda, the Philippines still sees the US as the greatest threat to the world. Japan is the only country that sees China as a threat, which mostly stems from imperial humiliation at China defeating Japanese occupation.

That doesn't invalidate their surprise on the matter. There is a logical reasoning behind it.

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RiverRock lemmy.ml RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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#100 · (edited) Quote Reply

Have you actually spoken to people you purport to defend what they think of China?

Literally yes

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
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#101 · (edited) Quote Reply

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I only ever defended China as not being as bad as the US. I clearly didn't say China is flawless and immaculate - I literally said "China shouldn’t deprive fishermen of their livelihood" - and even if I think the conflict will be resolved peacefully (China doesn't do war) it's still bad. This is a local territorial dispute, though, and it's simply not as big a threat to the world as the US.

Yet you seem to somehow believe China is worse than the US, which is absurd.

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