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4Chan knew about Jeffrey Epstein's death 38 minutes before the rest of the world. The FBI tried to figure out how.
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tiny_hedgehog piefed.social tiny_hedgehog@piefed.social
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Gotta post on them rekt threads.

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voidsignal lemmy.world voidsignal@lemmy.world
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On one hand I'm happy this fuck is dead, and I hope he did suffer.

On the other hand, we all know he did not commit suicide and got killed by the Pedoresident following the playbook of his BFF putin to try to save his fat orange pedo ass

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On one hand I'm happy this fuck is dead, and I hope he did suffer. On the other hand, we all know he did not commit suicide and got killed by the Pedoresident following the playbook of his BFF putin to try to save his fat orange pedo ass

There's still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that's who and when it would be done. I'm not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I've got no reason to think that it's not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.

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sexy_peach feddit.org sexy_peach@feddit.org
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The user also provided some of the earliest unproven conspiracy theories about Epstein's death. In one post, which was later deleted but provided to the FBI in response to the subpoena, the user said someone may have swapped out Epstein's body because of a mysterious van seen the previous night, DOJ records show.
"You guys i am shaking right now but i think they switched him out," the anonymous poster said.

Damn

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eestileib lemmy.blahaj.zone eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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There's still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that's who and when it would be done. I'm not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I've got no reason to think that it's not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.

Imagine if he'd been one of the state of the union guests.

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ZephyrXero lemmy.world ZephyrXero@lemmy.world
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We have it on record that Epstein and Bannon were frequenting 4chan, so I can only assume it was someone from his circles

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bitteroldcoot piefed.social bitteroldcoot@piefed.social
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The longer this goes on the weirder it gets.
A death reported before it happened?
Thousands or hours of video tapes being withheld?
Shipping containers he used full of incriminating documents?
I've always had distain for conspiracy theories, but I also suspected the elites were probably deranged.

Then, the other day, I was search for bbq recipes, and came across a Cannibal bbq subreddit. I assume it's all ai, but.... I don't know what to think anymore. Trump and his friends are just so evil. All I can think about is what the nazi concentration camp people did. torture twins, make lampshades out of human skin.

I grew up in a rural town where nothing ever happened and nobody locked their door. This is all so wrong.

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cattywampas lemmy.world cattywampas@lemmy.world
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There's still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that's who and when it would be done. I'm not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I've got no reason to think that it's not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.

Not impossible, but I don't see what advantage there would be to keeping him alive vs just getting rid of him entirely.

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pizza_the_hutt sh.itjust.works pizza_the_hutt@sh.itjust.works
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There's still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that's who and when it would be done. I'm not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I've got no reason to think that it's not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.

Somebody in Israel logged into Epstein's Fortnight account a few years after his supposed death, FYI.

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brownsugga lemmy.world brownsugga@lemmy.world
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The user also provided some of the earliest unproven conspiracy theories about Epstein's death. In one post, which was later deleted but provided to the FBI in response to the subpoena, the user said someone may have swapped out Epstein's body because of a mysterious van seen the previous night, DOJ records show. "You guys i am shaking right now but i think they switched him out," the anonymous...

Yeah there’s also a theory that Ghislaine is out free, someone saw her in Quebec

Also someone logged into one of JE’s gaming accounts from Israel like a month ago

My bet is he is being sheltered by Israel, and Ghislaine is headed there too

Edit- I should have said someone SUPPOSEDLY saw her, that’s on me

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sexy_peach feddit.org sexy_peach@feddit.org
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Yeah there’s also a theory that Ghislaine is out free, someone saw her in Quebec Also someone logged into one of JE’s gaming accounts from Israel like a month ago My bet is he is being sheltered by Israel, and Ghislaine is headed there too Edit- I should have said someone SUPPOSEDLY saw her, that’s on me

I wouldn't be surprised if that was found out. But I am not comfortable just believing something like that. I don't think that's healthy.

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Tyrq lemmy.dbzer0.com Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Imagine if he'd been one of the state of the union guests.

Trump pulls off his face, gasp it was Epstein all along

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CharlesDarwin lemmy.world CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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The longer this goes on the weirder it gets. A death reported before it happened? Thousands or hours of video tapes being withheld? Shipping containers he used full of incriminating documents? I've always had distain for conspiracy theories, but I also suspected the elites were probably deranged. Then, the other day, I was search for bbq recipes, and came across a Cannibal bbq subreddit. I assu...

I’ve always had distain for conspiracy theories

I totally am with you. However, there is definitely quite a range in the theories. And it's probably a bit naive to always fall for the narratives handed down by suspect elites on any given matter, some of them better known as "coincidence theories".

Some "theories" later turned out to be true. It's quite a distance between the findings of the Church Committee, for example, or what came out of Iran/Contra, or the Pentagon Papers, or the Panama Papers, as contrasted with rando nonsense like "Nazis built bases on the moon".

Unfortunately, it's hard to thread that needle I guess. People jump from the findings on Tuskagee and go feet-first into assuming Fauci did something illegal in Wuhan and/or that Covid was fake/"just a flu" and this was all a trial run/experiment to institute the New World Order and/or that mRNA vaccines were going to kill you or whatever...I mean, so many people just went buck wild during Covid.

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vaultdweller013 sh.itjust.works vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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Not impossible, but I don't see what advantage there would be to keeping him alive vs just getting rid of him entirely.

A simple trade, destruction of evidence in exchange for his life. Mind you I'd still kill him regardless but I also wouldn't make any deal with slime like that to begin with.

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[object Object] lemmy.ca panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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The longer this goes on the weirder it gets. A death reported before it happened? Thousands or hours of video tapes being withheld? Shipping containers he used full of incriminating documents? I've always had distain for conspiracy theories, but I also suspected the elites were probably deranged. Then, the other day, I was search for bbq recipes, and came across a Cannibal bbq subreddit. I assu...

It’s surprisingly hard to get AI to give reasonable cannibalism recipes.

It’ll do it if you ask for human like meat as a placeholder though.

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SoyTDI lemmy.world SoyTDI@lemmy.world
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Yeah there’s also a theory that Ghislaine is out free, someone saw her in Quebec Also someone logged into one of JE’s gaming accounts from Israel like a month ago My bet is he is being sheltered by Israel, and Ghislaine is headed there too Edit- I should have said someone SUPPOSEDLY saw her, that’s on me

The gaming account was someone who changed its username and then got banned.

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SeeMarkFly lemmy.ml SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml
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There's still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that's who and when it would be done. I'm not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I've got no reason to think that it's not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.

If I had that much money I know I would have a "Hail Mary" boobytrap that released a bunch of incriminating evidence in case of my death.

That might be Ghislaine's job.

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grue lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world
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4chan has been at the center of this shit all along.

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Banana sh.itjust.works Banana@sh.itjust.works
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Yeah there’s also a theory that Ghislaine is out free, someone saw her in Quebec Also someone logged into one of JE’s gaming accounts from Israel like a month ago My bet is he is being sheltered by Israel, and Ghislaine is headed there too Edit- I should have said someone SUPPOSEDLY saw her, that’s on me

The ghislaine video was proven to be a faceswap.

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Granbo's Holy Hotrod lemmy.world uberdroog@lemmy.world
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Somebody in Israel logged into Epstein's Fortnight account a few years after his supposed death, FYI.

I would bet a handler was checking the device and fucked up.

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perviouslyiner lemmy.world perviouslyiner@lemmy.world
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It's hardly surprising that an anonymous social media post could be made quicker than a news story gets approved for publishing?

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btsax reddthat.com btsax@reddthat.com
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This obviously has something to do with how long an active wormhole in a Stargate can be maintained

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poke sh.itjust.works poke@sh.itjust.works
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I would bet a handler was checking the device and fucked up.

and played a few ranked rocket league games for fun while they were at it

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corsicanguppy lemmy.ca corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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Imagine if he'd been one of the state of the union guests.

Like when Andy Kaufman did an entire show at the Apollo with 'his grandmother' rocking back and forth in a chair off to one side, only to pull off the wig and it was Robin Williams (in his quietest role ever) all along?

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The longer this goes on the weirder it gets. A death reported before it happened? Thousands or hours of video tapes being withheld? Shipping containers he used full of incriminating documents? I've always had distain for conspiracy theories, but I also suspected the elites were probably deranged. Then, the other day, I was search for bbq recipes, and came across a Cannibal bbq subreddit. I assu...

Watch Saló by Pier Paolo Passolini. Looks totally credible. If butchers in concentration camps (or IDF in Gaza) can be the summum of evil, why would the elite not be. Epstein compromised them and now, after Gaza, Trump is going to go to war with Iran because there's a pedo video of him somewhere. I always assumed Israel was doing America's dirty work in the middle east but it's the other way around actually. One can only assume Israel has the same leverage over the UK. They all got compromised.

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HubertManne piefed.social HubertManne@piefed.social
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is that the same fbi that fired agents for doing their job when it had to do with trump. that fbi.

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Lka1988 sh.itjust.works lka1988@sh.itjust.works
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Yeah there’s also a theory that Ghislaine is out free, someone saw her in Quebec Also someone logged into one of JE’s gaming accounts from Israel like a month ago My bet is he is being sheltered by Israel, and Ghislaine is headed there too Edit- I should have said someone SUPPOSEDLY saw her, that’s on me

There are 8 BILLION people on this planet. The chances of a Ghislane doppelganger roaming around is not as low as one might think.

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robocall lemmy.world robocall@lemmy.world
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It's hardly surprising that an anonymous social media post could be made quicker than a news story gets approved for publishing?

Why would a journalist put an anonymous leak on 4chan before publishing their own story? Don't journalists want their name/company associated with the story?

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datavoid sh.itjust.works datavoid@sh.itjust.works
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The longer this goes on the weirder it gets. A death reported before it happened? Thousands or hours of video tapes being withheld? Shipping containers he used full of incriminating documents? I've always had distain for conspiracy theories, but I also suspected the elites were probably deranged. Then, the other day, I was search for bbq recipes, and came across a Cannibal bbq subreddit. I assu...

In 2019 I graduated uni and struggled to find work for 9 months. During that time my boredom took me to the conspiracy subreddit... Most of the things on there are hilariously far fetched. But also people there were CONVINCED that Epstein wasn't going to make it to trial. When he died (or escaped), my view on conspiracy theorists changed substantially. At this point I wouldn't be surprised to find out 9/11 was planned, in all honestly.

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justastranger sh.itjust.works justastranger@sh.itjust.works
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On one hand I'm happy this fuck is dead, and I hope he did suffer. On the other hand, we all know he did not commit suicide and got killed by the Pedoresident following the playbook of his BFF putin to try to save his fat orange pedo ass

Does it still count as suicide if they hand you the rope and tell you this is the easy way out and if you don't play ball they'll make sure it's painful?

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MagicShel lemmy.zip MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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#32 · (edited) Quote Reply

In 2019 I graduated uni and struggled to find work for 9 months. During that time my boredom took me to the conspiracy subreddit... Most of the things on there are hilariously far fetched. But also people there were CONVINCED that Epstein wasn't going to make it to trial. When he died (or escaped), my view on conspiracy theorists changed substantially. At this point I wouldn't be surprised to f...

Well I mean someone planned 9/11. OBL.

I will admit, I didn't realize that all the elites of the world got together to fuck children together. Once that's on the table, some of the theories that only involve collaboration of a few people you wouldn't expect to be in the same room start looking more possible.

Like how in the hell would... (random people) Netanyahu and the President of Ford and the preeminent researcher of quantum computing ever get together to (random theory) build Jewish space lasers? Oh, it was pillow talk while they were raping kids.

Like... I don't believe in Jewish space lasers but it feels more plausible today than it did a few years ago.

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MagicShel lemmy.zip MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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is that the same fbi that fired agents for doing their job when it had to do with trump. that fbi.

You know, I'm not even sure that's revenge. I feel like it's a threat to future agents: you don't fuck with the elite, or they are going to have to run for president and fuck you over.

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redsand infosec.pub redsand@infosec.pub
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On one hand I'm happy this fuck is dead, and I hope he did suffer. On the other hand, we all know he did not commit suicide and got killed by the Pedoresident following the playbook of his BFF putin to try to save his fat orange pedo ass

Sorry dude but he's not dead. You have to look at the evidence beyond a headline but it isn't some strechy conspiracy at this point. None of the photos of him dead look dead, morticians have weighed in on that pretty decisively. He didn't just have his xbox account go active after he had a fedex account and some other thing like streaming or an e-mail im not finding confirmations on. Then there's the 2 guards who found him, read those interviews, again, doesn't seem dead. Then there's the notes in his cell with what seems like an escape plan that is for some reason partially redacted. And it goes on...

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Kowowow lemmy.ca Kowowow@lemmy.ca
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#35 · (edited) Quote Reply

The longer this goes on the weirder it gets. A death reported before it happened? Thousands or hours of video tapes being withheld? Shipping containers he used full of incriminating documents? I've always had distain for conspiracy theories, but I also suspected the elites were probably deranged. Then, the other day, I was search for bbq recipes, and came across a Cannibal bbq subreddit. I assu...

You want to get even weirder about conspiracies, him and thiel where looking for ways to make systems collapse as an easier way to make money and epstien's death is triggering a lot of people to go down conspiracy rabbit holes thus weakening faith in existing power structures, if any of this is actually planned I bet his suicide faked or otherwise and the ripple effects might be

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gdog05 lemmy.world gdog05@lemmy.world
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A simple trade, destruction of evidence in exchange for his life. Mind you I'd still kill him regardless but I also wouldn't make any deal with slime like that to begin with.

I'm guessing a guy like that who traded in relationships and secrets would be smart enough to set up a dead man drop in the event he goes quiet for too long. It keeps his life valuable.

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HubertManne piefed.social HubertManne@piefed.social
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You know, I'm not even sure that's revenge. I feel like it's a threat to future agents: you don't fuck with the elite, or they are going to have to run for president and fuck you over.

100%. not just fbi but across the federal government. feel like every 3 months he picks a place to fire folks for not providing the right information or being involved in something that had displeased him.

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It’s surprisingly hard to get AI to give reasonable cannibalism recipes. It’ll do it if you ask for human like meat as a placeholder though.

What is a "human like meat"

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I'm guessing a guy like that who traded in relationships and secrets would be smart enough to set up a dead man drop in the event he goes quiet for too long. It keeps his life valuable.

It makes keeping him alive, a matter of national security.

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Sorry dude but he's not dead. You have to look at the evidence beyond a headline but it isn't some strechy conspiracy at this point. None of the photos of him dead look dead, morticians have weighed in on that pretty decisively. He didn't just have his xbox account go active after he had a fedex account and some other thing like streaming or an e-mail im not finding confirmations on. Then there...

Fun spin to put on "Epstein didn't kill himself" but also, you know, come on.

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perviouslyiner lemmy.world perviouslyiner@lemmy.world
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Why would a journalist put an anonymous leak on 4chan before publishing their own story? Don't journalists want their name/company associated with the story?

Sorry, wasn't suggesting that the journalist did (not that it would harm their story or reputation much for 4chan to see it first) - anyone remotely close to the trail of information between the jail finding out and ABC publishing their story could have posted it - and even if they found out at the same time as the journalist did, they would have easily been first given how much needs to be checked before publishing an article under the name of a news org.

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The longer this goes on the weirder it gets. A death reported before it happened? Thousands or hours of video tapes being withheld? Shipping containers he used full of incriminating documents? I've always had distain for conspiracy theories, but I also suspected the elites were probably deranged. Then, the other day, I was search for bbq recipes, and came across a Cannibal bbq subreddit. I assu...

With how well-connected he was, how rich he was, and the fact there was a van there the night before AND his brother hired the forensic pathologist who identified his body.

There's no way Jeffrey is actually dead. He's probably living it up on their island "Valhalla" raping children like always.

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Catoblepas piefed.blahaj.zone Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone
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Somebody in Israel logged into Epstein's Fortnight account a few years after his supposed death, FYI.

Is there any reason to believe it wasn’t hacked? If I’m murdered then my account being accessed doesn’t prove I’m secretly alive. Especially if I used insecure passwords like Epstein is reported to have done.

It’s not impossible, but if he was still alive I find it hard to believe he’d just access it once and never again. Stupid billionaires with bad passwords probably happens all the time and we just don’t know about it because they’re not at the center of an international child sex exploitation crime ring.

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#44 · Quote Reply

Sorry dude but he's not dead. You have to look at the evidence beyond a headline but it isn't some strechy conspiracy at this point. None of the photos of him dead look dead, morticians have weighed in on that pretty decisively. He didn't just have his xbox account go active after he had a fedex account and some other thing like streaming or an e-mail im not finding confirmations on. Then there...

Who benefits from him being alive? His assets were seized so it's not like he could plan his own escape. The evidence was also already seized so it's not like he could keep evidence hidden. Most of his contact would be gone on the account him supposed to be dead. What would make him so important to keep him alive? It's not to make sure he can't testify because dead men also don't testify. So what would be the reason for keeping him alive and out of prison?

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#45 · Quote Reply

and played a few ranked rocket league games for fun while they were at it

Then got pissed at the smerfs and killed himself

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redsand infosec.pub redsand@infosec.pub
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#46 · (edited) Quote Reply

Fun spin to put on "Epstein didn't kill himself" but also, you know, come on.

Yes. Come on. Read. Watch. Investigate.

Did you look up anything I just typed or oh, no, you just hit reply and assumed you already know everything you need to? Don't fret, I'll edit in links after lunch for the lazy.

mortician on photos

Notes in cell

Guard statments (you can read these elsewhere I'm in a hurry)

fedex

bank account

Fortnite was another player changing their name according to Epic but no comment on the redacted vbucks purchase in the files.

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#47 · Quote Reply

Sorry dude but he's not dead. You have to look at the evidence beyond a headline but it isn't some strechy conspiracy at this point. None of the photos of him dead look dead, morticians have weighed in on that pretty decisively. He didn't just have his xbox account go active after he had a fedex account and some other thing like streaming or an e-mail im not finding confirmations on. Then there...

Lol "and it goes on..."

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vaultdweller013 sh.itjust.works vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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#48 · Quote Reply

I'm guessing a guy like that who traded in relationships and secrets would be smart enough to set up a dead man drop in the event he goes quiet for too long. It keeps his life valuable.

That too. Really it would depend how stupid he and his handlers were/are, I can't really make any statements on stupid or smart rich assholes are though since I come from a place of assuming everyone of these profligates are universally just above braindead.

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frongt lemmy.zip frongt@lemmy.zip
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#49 · Quote Reply

What is a "human like meat"

Pork

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#50 · (edited) Quote Reply

Somebody in Israel logged into Epstein's Fortnight account a few years after his supposed death, FYI.

That someone was exposed as a teenage "hacker".

I used quotes because it was more social engineering and lying than any sort of hack.

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#51 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yes. Come on. Read. Watch. Investigate. Did you look up anything I just typed or oh, no, you just hit reply and assumed you already know everything you need to? Don't fret, I'll edit in links after lunch for the lazy. mortician on photos Notes in cell Guard statments (you can read these elsewhere I'm in a hurry) fedex bank account Fortnite was another player changing their name according to Epi...

"None of the photos of him dead look dead" isn't a great choice as your very first point if you're trying to make a compelling argument.

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