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4Chan knew about Jeffrey Epstein's death 38 minutes before the rest of the world. The FBI tried to figure out how.
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Destide feddit.uk sirico@feddit.uk
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#52 · Quote Reply

Didn't read the article because it's gross and threw subscriptions everywhere. Ghislaine was a mod and seemingly started pol so it's not surprising if was close to the events.

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AbidanYre lemmy.world AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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#53 · Quote Reply

Is there any reason to believe it wasn’t hacked? If I’m murdered then my account being accessed doesn’t prove I’m secretly alive. Especially if I used insecure passwords like Epstein is reported to have done. It’s not impossible, but if he was still alive I find it hard to believe he’d just access it once and never again. Stupid billionaires with bad passwords probably happens all the time and ...

Trump's Twitter password was maga or something like that. After it got hacked I'm pretty sure it was maga2020 when it got hacked again

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#54 · Quote Reply

Somebody in Israel logged into Epstein's Fortnight account a few years after his supposed death, FYI.

I read somewhere that it was somebody else who changed their username to match his, and not the same account. Can't find a source for it either way though.

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3abas lemmy.world 3abas@lemmy.world
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#55 · Quote Reply

That someone was exposed as a teenage "hacker". I used quotes because it was more social engineering and lying than any sort of hack.

"hacker"...
According to Epic, someone changed their handle to Epstein's handle that was exposed in the files. There was no hacking involved.

I would absolutely believe it that he was walked out and flown to Israel where he lives as a hero of the pedo-genocide state, but his brother who identified his body is vocal about evidence it wasn't a suicide. I'm not sure what incentive he'd have to both lie about identifying his brother's body and making so much noise about it being a murder...

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#56 · Quote Reply

"hacker"... According to Epic, someone changed their handle to Epstein's handle that was exposed in the files. There was no hacking involved. I would absolutely believe it that he was walked out and flown to Israel where he lives as a hero of the pedo-genocide state, but his brother who identified his body is vocal about evidence it wasn't a suicide. I'm not sure what incentive he'd have to bot...

I’m not sure what incentive he’d have to both lie about identifying his brother’s body and making so much noise about it being a murder…

Remember that he was deeply involved in Epstein's businesses, including holding the position of president over the J Epstein & Co investment firm.

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/home/pineapplelover lemmy.dbzer0.com pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#57 · Quote Reply

Well 4chan had some deep ties with epstein. Epstein knew the founder and even got him to make a channel

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chaogomu lemmy.world chaogomu@lemmy.world
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#58 · Quote Reply

Does it still count as suicide if they hand you the rope and tell you this is the easy way out and if you don't play ball they'll make sure it's painful?

The only threat they needed to make was a return to general population.

I seem to remember him being attacked by another inmate. Instead of being put into protective custody he was put on suicide watch, which is its own kind of hell.

So, he changed his will to fuck over his victims, and is suddenly pulled off suicide watch.

The only two people needed to then make sure Epstein was dead would be the warden probably Epstein's own lawyer. Maybe the psychiatrist who signed off on the removal from suicide watch... But the suicide watch wasn't initially justified, so pulling Epstein off it wouldn't seem strange.

Hell, if you were a clever, high placed official in the DOJ, an example being Bill Barr, you could simply tell the warden to "put some pressure on the pedo" and then use the lawyer to deliver the real message of "kill yourself before we put you into the general population".

Then you get a dead loose end and no record of illegal activity inside the prison. Also you only have to buy off a single person who likely already has questionable morals.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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#59 · (edited) Quote Reply

“Death” https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/epstein-alive-15-million-views-viral-tel-aviv-footage-lookalike-1777361

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datavoid sh.itjust.works datavoid@sh.itjust.works
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#60 · Quote Reply

Well I mean someone planned 9/11. OBL. I will admit, I didn't realize that all the elites of the world got together to fuck children together. Once that's on the table, some of the theories that only involve collaboration of a few people you wouldn't expect to be in the same room start looking more possible. Like how in the hell would... (random people) Netanyahu and the President of Ford and t...

I meant by Americans, sorry 😁

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#61 · Quote Reply

Who benefits from him being alive? His assets were seized so it's not like he could plan his own escape. The evidence was also already seized so it's not like he could keep evidence hidden. Most of his contact would be gone on the account him supposed to be dead. What would make him so important to keep him alive? It's not to make sure he can't testify because dead men also don't testify. So wh...

What's keeping Ghislaine in a vacation prison where she gets her own dog, and the warden her bitch? What's keeping all the American billionaires in the Epstein Files free from accountability? Stop trying to make sense of a world that has none.

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#62 · Quote Reply

Well 4chan had some deep ties with epstein. Epstein knew the founder and even got him to make a channel

I thought he got him to re-open a closed channel (/pol/)

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DaMummy hilariouschaos.com DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com
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#63 · Quote Reply

There are 8 BILLION people on this planet. The chances of a Ghislane doppelganger roaming around is not as low as one might think.

It's gotta be at least lower then her changing the shape of her ears and chin.

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idiomaddict lemmy.world idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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#64 · Quote Reply

There are 8 BILLION people on this planet. The chances of a Ghislane doppelganger roaming around is not as low as one might think.

She looks a lot like my stepmom

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yucandu lemmy.world yucandu@lemmy.world
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#65 · Quote Reply

The ghislaine video was proven to be a faceswap.

Proven by whom? How do you even prove such a thing?

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Grimy lemmy.world Grimy@lemmy.world
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#66 · (edited) Quote Reply

“Death” https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/epstein-alive-15-million-views-viral-tel-aviv-footage-lookalike-1777361

That picture was generated by AI. It was first posted by an AI centered twitter account and had the Gemini logo at the bottom right, before someone cropped it out.

Edit: Posted on Reddit sorry, here is an article about it https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/image-depicting-jeffrey-epstein-tel-aviv-was-created-with-ai-2026-02-26/

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#67 · Quote Reply

Well I mean someone planned 9/11. OBL. I will admit, I didn't realize that all the elites of the world got together to fuck children together. Once that's on the table, some of the theories that only involve collaboration of a few people you wouldn't expect to be in the same room start looking more possible. Like how in the hell would... (random people) Netanyahu and the President of Ford and t...

Those were party balloons!

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f314 lemmy.world f314@lemmy.world
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#68 · Quote Reply

Trump's Twitter password was maga or something like that. After it got hacked I'm pretty sure it was maga2020 when it got hacked again

So I guess it’s maga2028 now?

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Deacon lemmy.world deacon@lemmy.world
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#69 · Quote Reply

What is a "human like meat"

Long pig

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#70 · Quote Reply

The newly released Epstein files show that the Justice Department tried to identify the 4Chan user behind the posts — but couldn't figure it out.

"Good luck, I'm behind 7 proxies."

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robocall lemmy.world robocall@lemmy.world
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#71 · Quote Reply

Didn't read the article because it's gross and threw subscriptions everywhere. Ghislaine was a mod and seemingly started pol so it's not surprising if was close to the events.

Business insider can paywall articles so an archive link is included in the bio of this post if you care to read it.

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fizzle quokk.au fizzle@quokk.au
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#72 · Quote Reply

Not impossible, but I don't see what advantage there would be to keeping him alive vs just getting rid of him entirely.

Who knows.

Like someone else said there might have been a dead man's switch ready to release all the kompromat.

Death is obviously very final, if he's stashed somewhere then you could wheel him out to testify although I can't really think of a circumstance where that would be advantageous.

I tend to think murder is the far simpler objective and therefore the most likely.

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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#73 · (edited) Quote Reply

In https://lemmy.world/c/Epsteinfiles from 17 days ago:

https://lemmy.world/post/42921222?scrollToComments=true

There were two IP's associated with these comments.

107.77.223.177

and

172.58.139.162

One IP was responsible for all of the comments regarding medical information (which can be confirmed in part by the autopsy, also available unredacted (mostly) in the files(.

I tried to follow up on the FBI effort to get the cell data for both of these. As far as I can tell, the rPtND1Si post resolved to a new jersey IP (this is the AT&T customer), and the second resolved to a sprint customer (swam8WIF). If you look up the second IP, it resolved to the Chicago area (the sprint customer). The sprint response to the FBI record request stated that their system used "dynamic IP". Its not clear to me the FBI followed up on the sprint customer any further. My read was they couldnt get a location from that IP because of sprints internal system.

See here: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA00133349.pdf for the original data.

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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#74 · Quote Reply

Well 4chan had some deep ties with epstein. Epstein knew the founder and even got him to make a channel

Yeah I don't think this is necessarily related. At least one of the two sets of claims looks credible, came from a New Jersey IP, and are connected with someone who worked at the facility.

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Goodeye8 piefed.social Goodeye8@piefed.social
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#75 · Quote Reply

I'm guessing a guy like that who traded in relationships and secrets would be smart enough to set up a dead man drop in the event he goes quiet for too long. It keeps his life valuable.

That would make sense if he wasn't arrested, convicted, interrogated and with a mountain of evidence in the hands of the FBI. A dead drop isn't going to keep you alive if the person who wants you silenced thinks you're already spilling the beans.

But even if that's the case he's alive until he clears the dead drop because he'd still be a loose end.

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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#76 · Quote Reply

Somebody in Israel logged into Epstein's Fortnight account a few years after his supposed death, FYI.

Their FedEx account was in use until 2024.

https://www.ontheditch.com/gained-access-to-epsteins-fedex-account/

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JustinTheGM ttrpg.network JustinTheGM@ttrpg.network
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#77 · Quote Reply

"hacker"... According to Epic, someone changed their handle to Epstein's handle that was exposed in the files. There was no hacking involved. I would absolutely believe it that he was walked out and flown to Israel where he lives as a hero of the pedo-genocide state, but his brother who identified his body is vocal about evidence it wasn't a suicide. I'm not sure what incentive he'd have to bot...

I've been hearing that the "changed handle" thing isn't valid, because when an account handle is changed you can still see the original on the user's profile (and that wasn't the case for the littlestjeff account). With all the misinformation flying around, I have no idea about the accuracy of this though.

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Postmortal_Pop lemmy.world Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world
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#78 · Quote Reply

4chan has been at the center of this shit all along.

More so than you'd probably think. 4-chan is the vat that the current wave of fascism gestated in.

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obre lemmy.world obre@lemmy.world
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#79 · Quote Reply

The newly released Epstein files show that the Justice Department tried to identify the 4Chan user behind the posts — but couldn't figure it out. "Good luck, I'm behind 7 proxies."

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wheezy lemmy.ml wheezy@lemmy.ml
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#80 · (edited) Quote Reply

Proven by whom? How do you even prove such a thing?

Image analysis. When a video is modified it is often pretty simple to tell if there are inconsistencies from an image captured under real world conditions using a camera lense.

It's pretty simple to trick the human eye these days. But it's significantly more difficult to modify a real world videos and perform "in-painting" (the more general term for a face swap) without obvious inconsistencies appearing.

It's significantly easier to detect these inconsistencies than it is to perform in-painting that doesn't have these inconsistencies.

It's not 100% deterministic. But it is enough to conclude that it is more likely than not a digitally modified image/video.

Video is MUCH easier to conclude as fake or real too. Because, unlike an image, the in-painting needs to not only work consistently to real world conditions and match the surroundings throughout, but it also has to match seemlessly and naturally to every single frame one after another.

The specific techniques are usually dependent on the video. But sometimes something as simple as increasing the contrast on an image can really expose that the pixels of an in-painted portion are not behaving how the surrounding pixels are.

If you're interested I found a journal paper that goes over it. Haven't read it myself. But will likely after this comment. But just looking at the images in it can give you an idea of what the image analysis would be looking at.

https://www.mdpi.com/2313-433X/10/2/42

Edit: I know nothing about the Maxwell video in question. This is just an answer on "how" people can determine if a video or image has been modified.

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paraphrand lemmy.world paraphrand@lemmy.world
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#81 · (edited) Quote Reply

I thought he got him to re-open a closed channel (/pol/)

Timelines seem to suggest so. But he commented to the verge and denied it.

Also, fuck 4chan. To be clear.

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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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#82 · Quote Reply

Epstein probably posted it himself

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kieron115 startrek.website kieron115@startrek.website
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#83 · Quote Reply

This dude had to have been a /b/tard

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UPGRAYEDD lemmy.world UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world
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#84 · Quote Reply

Epstein probably posted it himself

Dont know of i remember this right. But didnt the FBI have the statement on his death written the day before or something?

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Jakeroxs sh.itjust.works Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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#85 · Quote Reply

The newly released Epstein files show that the Justice Department tried to identify the 4Chan user behind the posts — but couldn't figure it out. "Good luck, I'm behind 7 proxies."

I backtraced it!

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redsand infosec.pub redsand@infosec.pub
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#86 · Quote Reply

Who benefits from him being alive? His assets were seized so it's not like he could plan his own escape. The evidence was also already seized so it's not like he could keep evidence hidden. Most of his contact would be gone on the account him supposed to be dead. What would make him so important to keep him alive? It's not to make sure he can't testify because dead men also don't testify. So wh...

Simple. It's what Ghislaine wants and she holds all the blackmail in the world(almost literally). Jeffrey is hers, she gets what she wants.

Yeah it's pain in the ass and overcomplicated but if this is an ongoing CIA Mossad operation it's not really weird. The FBI has 14+TB of video footage logged in evidence. Imagine how much power Maxwell really weilds if she's backed by Mossad

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#87 · (edited) Quote Reply

The newly released Epstein files show that the Justice Department tried to identify the 4Chan user behind the posts — but couldn't figure it out. "Good luck, I'm behind 7 proxies."

classic

Reminder that the Sarah Palin hacker was caught because they included the web proxy url in their screenshots they shared.

Edit: it was 16 years ago so here's the Wikipedia article for additional context.

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moody lemmings.world moody@lemmings.world
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#88 · Quote Reply

Dont know of i remember this right. But didnt the FBI have the statement on his death written the day before or something?

The memo reharding his death was dated the day before. Whether that means they wrote it before or it was just misdated, who knows?

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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#89 · Quote Reply

We have it on record that Epstein and Bannon were frequenting 4chan, so I can only assume it was someone from his circles

Its not. By 2019 there were hundreds of thousands of 4chan users. There were two threads of comments the FBI considered credible. One, specifically focused on observable medical conditions and procedures related to the minutes and hour immediately around the time where Epstein's body is allegedly discovered.

https://www.justice.gov/age-verify?destination=%2Fepstein%2Ffiles%2FDataSet+9%2FEFTA00129268.pdf

This leads to this document, "EFTA00091641.pdf", and the MCC employee "Tova Noel", and you'll find this question:

Search "Verizon" and "Tova Noel", and you can confirm they were a Verizon customer in document "EFTA00133624.pdf", from bank records the FBI obtained. These records show the withdrawl dates on which automatic billing occurred.

Go to document "EFTA00123473.pdf" or "EFTA00125018.pdf" and you get the Verizon subpoena, although, numbers redacted, etc.. etc.. but its got the specific date window that matters (July 6 2019 until August 13 2019). "EFTA00133182.pdf" gets you the list of all subpoenas, and is redacted poorly enough such that we can infer which people are being targeted. Specifically, Shuliac, Noel, Thomas remain unredacted/ sloppily redacted.

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Fizz lemmy.nz Fizz@lemmy.nz
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#90 · Quote Reply

Wow a 4chan user has a job.

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#91 · Quote Reply

In 2019 I graduated uni and struggled to find work for 9 months. During that time my boredom took me to the conspiracy subreddit... Most of the things on there are hilariously far fetched. But also people there were CONVINCED that Epstein wasn't going to make it to trial. When he died (or escaped), my view on conspiracy theorists changed substantially. At this point I wouldn't be surprised to f...

Not planned by americans. They just let it happen. It's easier to hide behind "beuracratic incompetence" than actually killing thousands of people without having any whistleblowers.

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#92 · (edited) Quote Reply

I’ve been getting the impression lately that 4chan has been a platform where the rich, or someone paid by them, uses snippets of truthful information baked into outlandish stories to obfuscate their ongoings behind a narrative of easily dismissible conspiracy. Like feeding the pigs carrots, so their shit smells of shit and carrots, and now everyone avoids carrots as a byproduct of it’s association with shit.

What are the odds this is just more of that? They may speak on Epstein’s death before it’s reported for credibility, then misuse that credibility to obfuscate the truth further. The FBI could have been in the dark, hence their investigation, but they could have also been steered away from making any conclusions on the matter.

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redsand infosec.pub redsand@infosec.pub
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#93 · Quote Reply

Lol "and it goes on..."

Bank account, another online account I'm looking for the link to. I edited in links to the rest. Probably more in a few days which is what i mean by goes on...

Also 4chan and a dynamic IP stopping the FBI dead lol

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brownsugga lemmy.world brownsugga@lemmy.world
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#94 · Quote Reply

Image analysis. When a video is modified it is often pretty simple to tell if there are inconsistencies from an image captured under real world conditions using a camera lense. It's pretty simple to trick the human eye these days. But it's significantly more difficult to modify a real world videos and perform "in-painting" (the more general term for a face swap) without obvious inconsistencies ...

https://youtu.be/Ipcr5m2chZE

Not sayin I believe it

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brownsugga lemmy.world brownsugga@lemmy.world
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#95 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

It’s not a comfortable thing to think about, that’s for sure

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brownsugga lemmy.world brownsugga@lemmy.world
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#96 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

This one?

https://youtu.be/Ipcr5m2chZE

Not saying it’s definitive or that it’s NOT a face swap but dang that’s a wild video

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datavoid sh.itjust.works datavoid@sh.itjust.works
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#97 · Quote Reply

Not planned by americans. They just let it happen. It's easier to hide behind "beuracratic incompetence" than actually killing thousands of people without having any whistleblowers.

Fair enough.

It's crazy that Epstein is easy to include in 9/11 conspiracies now too, considering his link to Lutnick (too lazy to spell check his name), who didn't go into work on 9/11 when like 600 of his employees died. Not to mention Epstein's ties to royals, presidents, and allegedly the Mossad. The who thing is so fertile for conspiracy theories that it basically grows itself.

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redsand infosec.pub redsand@infosec.pub
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#98 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

I have added links. I'll add the other online account if I find it.

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#99 · Quote Reply

I’ve been getting the impression lately that 4chan has been a platform where the rich, or someone paid by them, uses snippets of truthful information baked into outlandish stories to obfuscate their ongoings behind a narrative of easily dismissible conspiracy. Like feeding the pigs carrots, so their shit smells of shit and carrots, and now everyone avoids carrots as a byproduct of it’s associat...

Why do you think Elmo bought Twitter...

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Banana sh.itjust.works Banana@sh.itjust.works
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#100 · (edited) Quote Reply

This one? https://youtu.be/Ipcr5m2chZE Not saying it’s definitive or that it’s NOT a face swap but dang that’s a wild video

Yup! Definitely that one. Showtoolsai has a video explaining the tells on it.

Here's the instagram link, he hasn't put it up on YouTube yet: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVJ7hHvD63Q/

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sakuraba lemmy.ml sakuraba@lemmy.ml
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#101 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

I hate when characters are killed off screen

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