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Xbox Co-founder Says Microsoft is Quietly Sunsetting the Platform
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sakuraba lemmy.ml sakuraba@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-07
#102 · Quote Reply

didn't the new exec come from their AI division?

depends on what you mean with 'AI', like builder.ai

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entwine programming.dev entwine@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-08-31
#103 · Quote Reply

To play games coded by a shitty AI, full of bugs and as many microtransactions as possible ...

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entwine programming.dev entwine@programming.dev
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#104 · Quote Reply

I went to walmart to look for a new xbox controller for my xbox one x and they had maybe 12 games for the Xbox series X and NONE of them were anything i would ever want to purchase. Also the series X is a trash piece of equipment that has constant overheating issues, you cannot replace the hard drive if it dies, and it looks absolutely horrible design wise. They also had zero consoles in stock,...

xbox one x was the last good console xbox made

Was it good? The Xbox 360 outsold it (by a lot), but even that was mostly luck because Sony notoriously fucked up the PS3 launch (and in the end, PS3 sold more anyways lmao). It also had the red ring of death issue.

The Xbox One was when they started the hardcore ramp up of enshittification which never ended even after continually losing in every way to the competition.

The OG Xbox worked well, and at least managed to outsell the GameCube (though not by a lot).

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entwine programming.dev entwine@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-08-31
#105 · Quote Reply

I guess they're going to go all-in on AI despite only 3.3% of MS365 subscribers paying for Copilot. Stonks?

The sunk cost fallacy is a bitch

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sp3ctr4l lemmy.dbzer0.com sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-04-10
#106 · (edited) Quote Reply

When you set an impossible goal (30% yoy profit margin for the gaming division), you know that you are killing off that division, just, slowly.

Satya just really wants an AI girlfriend that is also in everyone's homes simultaneously, that he can use to spy on everyone for the NSA.

Not that it directly matters, but I did literally work for MSFT during the 360 3RR / Windows 8 era.

I kinda know at least a little about the uh, corporate culture.

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sp3ctr4l lemmy.dbzer0.com sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-04-10
#107 · (edited) Quote Reply

Look some people may say Xbox has confusing naming scheme, but it's very simple, number just goes up: First one is Xbox one. Noone in Microsoft is dumb enough to call "one" console that isn't first of the series. Then Xbox X (because X is Roman 10) then the Xbox 360. Very easy

Xbox S One S Xbox:

Sexbox.

....Did I get it right?

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sp3ctr4l lemmy.dbzer0.com sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-04-10
#108 · Quote Reply

I had to go back and read your post twice because I was getting Xbox One X and Xbox Series X confused with eachother. I even know there is a difference, but holy god are those names bad. It's still confusing even when you know to look for it. I have no clue who decided that was a good idea. Then again, I look at their recent naming schemes and I guess I should just be happy they didn't fuck up ...

Don't forget how there are like at least 4 simultaneous versions of Teams, at any given point in time.

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flying_sheep lemmy.ml flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-09-09
#109 · Quote Reply

I think they are sunsetting whole company.

That's what their actions felt like for decades yet somehow they've always kept chugging along.

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sp3ctr4l lemmy.dbzer0.com sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-04-10
#110 · (edited) Quote Reply

Xbox as a 3rd party publisher can succeed. As a console vendor, it's too late to stop the multiplatform strategy this gen. They're not Nintendo. At least on the Wii U, Nintendo was still releasing great games and the 3DS sold like 80 million units and Nintendo were also releasing great games there and all those studios would converge on the Switch. They can't be serious launching a console with...

Sorry to burst your bubble but the new head of Xbox has literally 0 experience with video games.

The woman that everyone was sure was Phil's second in command, being set up to be his replacement?

Yeah she just got told she was being overtopped, and she then seemingly just retired, she just 'resigned', not even a new position in MSFT or at another high falutin' gaming company or anything.

The new head of.Xbox is mainly a data scientist and project manager, managed instacart and other online etailer type apps.

Her speciality is using data to precisely squeeze as much money as possible out of a given service.

Which is what she will be doing.

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sp3ctr4l lemmy.dbzer0.com sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-04-10
#111 · Quote Reply

I think they are sunsetting whole company.

Nah, shifting heavily toward being B2B.

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sp3ctr4l lemmy.dbzer0.com sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-04-10
#112 · Quote Reply

That was a really interesting interview. I liked that he did have some advice for the new Xbox boss at the end, basically "go talk to other people who have held similar positions in other games companies, like Reggie Fils-Aime. Tho he does seem pretty convinced that the new boss' job will really be to kill off Xbox in order to make more room for AI

Old Xbox actually did have a good number of people who just wanted to make cool video games.

... You gotta get rid of people with some semblance of duty and desire to achieve some kind of good in the world though.

That's how you maximize next quarter investor returns.

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sp3ctr4l lemmy.dbzer0.com sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-04-10
#113 · (edited) Quote Reply

This has been tried before and never worked well. What makes you think its going to work any better now? I even have a free controller google gave me when they tried it.

It doesn't need to work well.

It needs to sound like it will make more money for MSFT's board.

You're approaching this from the angle of 'is this a sensible and sustsinable long term business strategy.'

Nobody cares!

They care about LINE GO UP BIG FAST NOW!

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Wilson lemmy.today Wilson@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-02-18
#114 · Quote Reply

This has been tried before and never worked well. What makes you think its going to work any better now? I even have a free controller google gave me when they tried it.

Oh man, those stadia controllers. Not the stupidest $99 I've ever spent, but still pretty dumb.

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BlackLaZoR lemmy.world BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-26
#115 · Quote Reply

Announcing the Xbox One 2 SL XLS SE Pro, which is the basic version, and the Pro version, the Xbox Two 1 SE SL XS SLB Enterprise, both of which are vibe-coded Windows apps that stream Gamepass games without installing anything but take up 100GB of hard drive and still run your GPU at 100% somehow. The latter costs twice as much and you get a different Minecraft cape with it. They update on a co...

You forgot about z Copilot version where AI has unrestricted ring 0 access to every single device, including your peacemaker - but in return it spies on you 24h!

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NotMyOldRedditName lemmy.world NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-24
#116 · Quote Reply

It doesn't need to work well. It needs to sound like it will make more money for MSFT's board. You're approaching this from the angle of 'is this a sensible and sustsinable long term business strategy.' Nobody cares! They care about LINE GO UP BIG FAST NOW!

Microsoft Board: But Google lost so much money on Stadia!

Voice on speaker: but Google didnt have me, Bing.AI!

Microsoft Board: DONE. MAKE US RICH!

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KaChilde sh.itjust.works KaChilde@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-08-31
#117 · Quote Reply

I love how nobody here is getting me actual picture. They're not going to sell Xbox to people anymore. What's going to happen is they're going to turn to a subscriber model where you have to log into a data center that they control and use your browser to play video games. Paying a monthly subscription for the privilege of playing their exclusive games. In fact I will bet money that the first p...

It won’t be GTA6. It will be an exclusive title like a rebooted Halo or Gears of War. They can’t risk losing the money on GTA when people just go to PS5 and buy the game outright there.

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Broken lemmy.ml Broken@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-03-30
#118 · Quote Reply

It's insane how Microsoft is handling Xbox: They have their own console and Windows They bought everything they could and now own most of the biggest gaming franchises outside of Nintendo: Activision-Blizzard. Minecraft. Halo. Call of Duty. Warcraft. Starcraft. Diablo. Candy Crush. Elder Scrolls. Fallout. id software. Bethesda. They have everything in place and are still getting slapped around ...

Yes. Correct. Because they don't know what they're doing.

Just look at how they've positioned themselves in recent years: One, we always want to have the most powerful console to be the best. Two, we want people to be able to play anywhere with just a controller and no console required.
Talk about a kingdom divided.

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ipkpjersi lemmy.ml ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-29
#119 · Quote Reply

Is the game buggy? Worry not! Microsoft™ Copilot 365™ powered by Azure™ will analyze your gameplay in realtime, detect when a bug occurs, and redirect you to an AI generated troubleshooting page.

I love my AI future.

Fuck.

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ipkpjersi lemmy.ml ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-29
#120 · Quote Reply

I hate that Xbox is a joke now and that it's going to die out. I hate that there is going to be less competition in the console space. I hate that Microsoft have no idea what the fuck they're doing.

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darkmogool feddit.org darkmogool@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-08-03
#121 · Quote Reply

good

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Abundance114 lemmy.world Abundance114@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-23
#122 · Quote Reply

good

Indeed. Death to consoles. A piece of hardware/software creating a gated community where you're charged twice to use the entrance and then gaslit into thinking that it's a necessary fee.

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Abundance114 lemmy.world Abundance114@lemmy.world
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#123 · Quote Reply

I hate that Xbox is a joke now and that it's going to die out. I hate that there is going to be less competition in the console space. I hate that Microsoft have no idea what the fuck they're doing.

Playstation is next; Nintendo has the securist market with its portable console.

I would think hand helds like the steam deck would be slowly strangling it but the switch 2 sold like hotcakes.

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starman2112 sh.itjust.works starman2112@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-10
#124 · (edited) Quote Reply

It won’t be GTA6. It will be an exclusive title like a rebooted Halo or Gears of War. They can’t risk losing the money on GTA when people just go to PS5 and buy the game outright there.

The Elder Scrolls 6, only available on Xbox® Game Pass© Ultimate Plus™ Cloud Gaming™®©

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dogs0n sh.itjust.works dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-08
#125 · Quote Reply

Playstation is next; Nintendo has the securist market with its portable console. I would think hand helds like the steam deck would be slowly strangling it but the switch 2 sold like hotcakes.

Playstation is next;

80% of the xbox crowd is probably gonna buy a playstation. Maybe a few will go for a PC and the rest for a switch.

Couch goblins that look into the future when considering the cost of a console might find the steam machine worthy when it releases.

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Zaemz lemmy.world zaemz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#126 · Quote Reply

Is the game buggy? Worry not! Microsoft™ Copilot 365™ powered by Azure™ will analyze your gameplay in realtime, detect when a bug occurs, and redirect you to an AI generated troubleshooting page.

Unironically the AI is trained using episodes of The IT Crowd.

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Batmorous lemmy.world Batmorous@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-10-13
#127 · Quote Reply

Playstation is next; Nintendo has the securist market with its portable console. I would think hand helds like the steam deck would be slowly strangling it but the switch 2 sold like hotcakes.

We seriously need to get open source PC console community-made offerings up and running. To share the load of building that up. Community built up competitors and Valve will be enough.

Still I also would like to see some new players come in too.

Are there any companies that would do well in gaming? What if AMD made their own console?

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Batmorous lemmy.world Batmorous@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-10-13
#128 · Quote Reply

Playstation is next; 80% of the xbox crowd is probably gonna buy a playstation. Maybe a few will go for a PC and the rest for a switch. Couch goblins that look into the future when considering the cost of a console might find the steam machine worthy when it releases.

Need more private companies like Valve, and some community open source options built up too

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andallthat lemmy.world andallthat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
#129 · Quote Reply

I love how nobody here is getting me actual picture. They're not going to sell Xbox to people anymore. What's going to happen is they're going to turn to a subscriber model where you have to log into a data center that they control and use your browser to play video games. Paying a monthly subscription for the privilege of playing their exclusive games. In fact I will bet money that the first p...

This sounds... plausible actually.
They have this big stake in GPU datacenters for AI, that are (and will be) burning incredible amounts of money and are not turning a profit anytime soon.
That same crazy level of investement on AI is making hardware costs go up, especially gaming hardware.

But Microsoft, being the benefactors who have inherited the company from philantropist and kids-lover Bill Gates, have thought of us! They will share a bit of their shiny GPU datacenters' plwer for gaming and all they will be asking for is a lot of your money.
I can see that.

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Tattorack lemmy.world Tattorack@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-28
#130 · Quote Reply

Playstation is next; Nintendo has the securist market with its portable console. I would think hand helds like the steam deck would be slowly strangling it but the switch 2 sold like hotcakes.

The only reason I got a Switch 2 is because a company selling them here in Denmark made a HUGE pricing error. So I got a Switch 2 and Mario Kart World together for just 99 DKK, or 15 USD.

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Tattorack lemmy.world Tattorack@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-28
#131 · Quote Reply

I love how nobody here is getting me actual picture. They're not going to sell Xbox to people anymore. What's going to happen is they're going to turn to a subscriber model where you have to log into a data center that they control and use your browser to play video games. Paying a monthly subscription for the privilege of playing their exclusive games. In fact I will bet money that the first p...

And how well do you think that's going to work? Sounds like a shitty service maybe five people will subscribe to, and then it dies a year later.

We've had subscription services like this already. I don't hear much of them anymore... Or at all... So I presume they're all dead.

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hOrni lemmy.world hOrni@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#132 · Quote Reply

It's not good for the consumer to have less competition on the market. But is there any legit reason to own an Xbox?

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Abundance114 lemmy.world Abundance114@lemmy.world
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#133 · Quote Reply

The only reason I got a Switch 2 is because a company selling them here in Denmark made a HUGE pricing error. So I got a Switch 2 and Mario Kart World together for just 99 DKK, or 15 USD.

Haha, there's not much I wouldn't buy at a 95% discount.

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djdarren piefed.social djdarren@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-10-07
#134 · Quote Reply

I love how nobody here is getting me actual picture. They're not going to sell Xbox to people anymore. What's going to happen is they're going to turn to a subscriber model where you have to log into a data center that they control and use your browser to play video games. Paying a monthly subscription for the privilege of playing their exclusive games. In fact I will bet money that the first p...

I saw a thread the other day, something like "What low-level conspiracies do you genuinely believe"; to which someone replied that they believe that OpenAI is being speedrun to bankruptcy in order for Microsoft to buy their data centres for pennies on the dollar.

And yeah, it all kinda seems that could be a credible outcome, at which point MS will have a huge amount of equipment all ready to serve game streaming to people who can no longer afford to buy a home computer to do the same.

Is it going to happen? shrug

Could it? Absolutely.

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buddascrayon lemmy.world buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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#135 · (edited) Quote Reply

It won’t be GTA6. It will be an exclusive title like a rebooted Halo or Gears of War. They can’t risk losing the money on GTA when people just go to PS5 and buy the game outright there.

I said GTA 6 will be the introduction. Not the closer.

As any drug dealer can tell you, you have to give them a taste in order to get them addicted then you can start to really charge them for the good stuff.

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buddascrayon lemmy.world buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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#136 · (edited) Quote Reply

Microsoft Board: But Google lost so much money on Stadia! Voice on speaker: but Google didnt have me, Bing.AI! Microsoft Board: DONE. MAKE US RICH!

Stadia was still a system you buy. What I'm talking about here is having a browser based gaming system where any computer could be used to play games, for subscription price of course.

There are in fact currently places on the web that offer such services for Minecraft.

And I'll bet you anything they'll make the subscription price really low at first. Borrowing from the Netflix model... Then, once consoles and PCs have been outmoded and no one owns anything, they jack the price up.

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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#137 · (edited) Quote Reply

Haha, there's not much I wouldn't buy at a 95% discount.

Nearly all my music gear was bought used, at about that level of discount. People buy interesting gear, and never get around to tackling the learning curve, and eventually sell it off super cheap.

If you can be patient, and watch for the exact right gear at the exact right price, and you are focused on performance more than gourmet brand names, you can build a nice home recording studio for super cheap. It took me about two years, but all my gear, and all my instruments, probably didn't cost more than about $1500-2000 total, and most of it is brand new, or nearly so.

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LoafedBurrito lemmy.world LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world
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#138 · Quote Reply

I had to go back and read your post twice because I was getting Xbox One X and Xbox Series X confused with eachother. I even know there is a difference, but holy god are those names bad. It's still confusing even when you know to look for it. I have no clue who decided that was a good idea. Then again, I look at their recent naming schemes and I guess I should just be happy they didn't fuck up ...

I explained the different xbox versions to my coworker and he almost had an aneurysm.

Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox 360 Slim, Xbox 360 Slim E, Xbox One, Xbox One S, Xbox One X, Xbox Series S, Xbox Series X.

Dumbest names ever and 70% of the listings for these consoles, the owners don't even know what they are selling. They call a series X a xbox One, and vise versa. Just too damn confusing for people.

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LoafedBurrito lemmy.world LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world
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#139 · Quote Reply

xbox one x was the last good console xbox made Was it good? The Xbox 360 outsold it (by a lot), but even that was mostly luck because Sony notoriously fucked up the PS3 launch (and in the end, PS3 sold more anyways lmao). It also had the red ring of death issue. The Xbox One was when they started the hardcore ramp up of enshittification which never ended even after continually losing in every w...

Yeah, it's the first 4k console that xbox produced and has a slim profile, looks good, has a great selection of games and backwards compatible games. I own 5 xbox 360's, it's my favorite xbox console, but not the LAST good console they made. It was their best console in my opinion. The original xbox had its own hard drive problems and the original controller that came with it is absolutely terrible, so they had to remake the S version that we actually could fit in our hands.

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MrFinnbean lemmy.world MrFinnbean@lemmy.world
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#140 · Quote Reply

Indeed. Death to consoles. A piece of hardware/software creating a gated community where you're charged twice to use the entrance and then gaslit into thinking that it's a necessary fee.

You have a point with that, but as long as consoles are easy to use they have their audience. I have both pc and ps5. I do mostly prefer my pc, but i honestly cant deny that ps has its merits. The time i have owned the one console i have needed to upgrade my pc twice.

As long as there is no convinient way for less computer savy people to play casually, consoles will be a thing.

And before you start to crusifix me, remember most people playing games do it casually and like it or not, those people are the majority and the audience that bring biggest part of the money in to the industry.

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phx lemmy.world phx@lemmy.world
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#141 · Quote Reply

Is the game buggy? Worry not! Microsoft™ Copilot 365™ powered by Azure™ will analyze your gameplay in realtime, detect when a bug occurs, and redirect you to an AI generated troubleshooting page.

Just waiting for them to bring back Clippy as an AI agent...

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In lemmy.world Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#142 · Quote Reply

Nearly all my music gear was bought used, at about that level of discount. People buy interesting gear, and never get around to tackling the learning curve, and eventually sell it off super cheap. If you can be patient, and watch for the exact right gear at the exact right price, and you are focused on performance more than gourmet brand names, you can build a nice home recording studio for sup...

What online sites are good for this?

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drath lemmy.world drath@lemmy.world
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#143 · Quote Reply

The sunk cost fallacy is a bitch

Didnt stop them from killing windows phone

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dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️ lemmy.world dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
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#144 · (edited) Quote Reply

It's not good for the consumer to have less competition on the market. But is there any legit reason to own an Xbox?

Only if you want to have the black and green version of Toy instead of the white and blue version, at this rate. Barring a handful of exclusives everything gets released on PS5 and Xbox now and maybe also a watered down port on the Switch/2. The current Xbox and Playstation are so architecturally similar to each other that they may as well be the same machine with the only difference being which asshole is at the helm, and for either of them you may as well have a PC.

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dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️ lemmy.world dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
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#145 · Quote Reply

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When computers were just a teletype attached to a mainframe?

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afaix lemmy.world afaix@lemmy.world
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#146 · Quote Reply

It's not good for the consumer to have less competition on the market. But is there any legit reason to own an Xbox?

Some backward compatible games run better than emulators

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boaratio lemmy.world boaratio@lemmy.world
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#147 · Quote Reply

Quietly?

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Bytemeister lemmy.world Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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#148 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Sure, but realize that the current level of personal computing is a smartphone, we're not that far off from your home "PC" just being a display, KB, mouse, and maybe an interface for some external storage and peripherals. I wouldn't be shocked if that happenes some time in the next 10 years.

That being said, I think there will still be a significant group of people who will own their own hardware.

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Bytemeister lemmy.world Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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#149 · Quote Reply

Azure is by far their biggest money maker if I recall

Which is funny, because they keep shooting it in the foot.

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Ex Nummis lemmy.world Kyrgizion@lemmy.world
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#150 · Quote Reply

Nearly all my music gear was bought used, at about that level of discount. People buy interesting gear, and never get around to tackling the learning curve, and eventually sell it off super cheap. If you can be patient, and watch for the exact right gear at the exact right price, and you are focused on performance more than gourmet brand names, you can build a nice home recording studio for sup...

I once got a 2k camera + gear + extra (Sigma!) lenses for three fiddy. No Loch Ness monsters involved tho.

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Regrettable_incident lemmy.world Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world
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#151 · Quote Reply

I saw a thread the other day, something like "What low-level conspiracies do you genuinely believe"; to which someone replied that they believe that OpenAI is being speedrun to bankruptcy in order for Microsoft to buy their data centres for pennies on the dollar. And yeah, it all kinda seems that could be a credible outcome, at which point MS will have a huge amount of equipment all ready to se...

Doesn't remote gaming require everyone to have an unmetered and fast internet connection? There's still a lot of places where not everyone is that lucky.

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