Maybe you deserve a better system

I'm not that sure that history will give a shit about US American Democrats or US American Republicans.

Those labels will be lost. "US American" concentration camps, disappearing citizens, ignoring court orders, death squads ... there will be no "oh that was just the Republicans"; it will be "oh that was just the Americans".

And they will be right to do so. The Dems are fully complicit in enabling this.

This meme sums up the US in a big way. No responsibility.

It's not even generate a candidate that doesn't support genocide, it's literally just not stand in the way of or conspire against such a candidate, but naturally the DNC and their controlled opposition functionaries can't even manage to do the right thing by doing nothing at all.

new dnc chair totally promises they won't this time, please pay no attention to their constant and immediate attacks on anyone in dnc trying to move the party left or learn from 2024

"C'mon Charlie, just kick the stupid football blockhead!"

At this point staying home helps Trump. It's the fucking reason he's there. Trump votes stayed consistent with 2020 but Dems votes dropped by millions. You saying Harris would be just as bad? This view is pushed by billionaires to help get fascists elected.

Top Democratic officials who worked on the party's still-secret autopsy of the 2024 election concluded that Kamala Harris lost significant support because of the Biden administration's approach to the war in Gaza, Axios has https://web.archive.org/web/20260223002443/https://www.axios.com/2026/02/22/dnc-2024-autopsy-harris-gaza

Wow, maybe dont run pro-genocide candidates if you want your base to Vote for you? Or do you think the cult-like devotion of the republicans is a positive democrats should follow?

Then again what is the other Option? Not vote for either candidate like in 2024 and let Trump win?

I'm not a US citizen but I still act similar in my local elections - vote for the candidate that will do less evil when they're in office, if there is no better option.
And I gotta hand it to the DNC they're really amazing at just cutting off their own legs. Because shooting themselves in the knee can't describe this.

Then the Democrats shouldn't run candidates that will cause millions of people to stay home.

vote for the candidate that will do less evil when they’re in office, if there is no better option.

Im sorry but thats just a losing strategy, if you dont demand better, you will never get better as a choice

Then again what is the other Option? Not vote for either candidate like in 2024 and let Trump win?

Or, just run a non-genocidal candidate. For God's sake, the election is years away, and you just take it as obvious that Democrats will choose a monster

Then again what is the other Option? Not vote for either candidate like in 2024 and let Trump win?

you should always vote and only vote for the most progressive candidate available; do not settle for the lesser evil.

we've been voting for the lesser evil for decades and here we are w trump in the white house and so many liberals disaffected by the system that there aren't even enough 3rd party voters to make up for the difference.

i fear that they tried to suppress it because they planned on trying the same strategy again in 2028.

approximately 10 million and the dems still refuses to change their game, but it'll be worse next time because of epstein and iran.. in addition to gaza.

If the electoral system only lets you choose leaders who don't align with the majority, it's not a democracy. It's a dictatorship with extra steps.

Yeah. That'll show em!

'Lol but everyone knows midterms and primaries arent important!'

(Proceeds to complain about quality of candidates during the presidential)

it's not about retribution, it's about complicity w genocides; wars for profit; and baby raping/killing/eating.

people are slowly becoming disaffected and now there's so many who won't participate that aren't enough 3rd party voters to make up the difference.

Dont tell me mate. Tell those stupid voters!

Being able to vote blue no matter who and going back to brunch with the only change being LGBT flavoured concentration camps and bombs going to to Israel must be nice. Blue MAGA mindset is disgusting

No matter how you spin there's an obvious worse option because the alternative (including resigning to vote) includes that and more.

Obviously there should be a straight up better option that doesn't include that but you've gotta pick the best option out of those you're dealt. A small step towards good, even if just a side step is better than leaping head first into the maw of evil. Something your votes do give you some agency over.

Rhetorical: Omg again? With same exact picture? In not really political comm?

(Disclaimer: not US citizen)

Go and vote in primaries for candidates you want, so maybe you get someone decent (so "no matter who" part is eliminated), apply pressure to them right now. Until you have enough power and support to create new party from scratch (and have it catch third of population instantly somehow, including republicans) or overthrow current system altogether, you have to work within it.

Also: in famous thought experiment, named Trolley problem, do you call yourself murderer (genocider) if you decide to push the lever?

I myself had different and conflicted opinions during those years, arguments for voting blue and third party (or abstaining) both look quite convincing, at least for not well versed in politics me. Ugh.

Looking forward to mod award on this post.

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) has admitted that it can choose whoever it wants regardless of the primaries, as evidenced by the decision to endorse Vice President Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee.

https://theconversation.com/democratic-partys-choice-of-harris-was-undemocratic-and-the-latest-evidence-of-party-leaders-distrusting-party-voters-236002

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/david-hogg-disrupts-democratic-party-rcna202202

The Democrats are already guilty of genocide, both parties are the greater evil. Why is it not even an option to try and push the Democrats slightly to the left of fascism?

Well, that's shitty

Did you ever, in your whole time of thinking whether you should vote, realize, that you can't actually vote, or does bluemaga logic not bother with those unimportant details?

That and more being shown in the media

The actual imperial policy doesn't change.

You're not going to make genocide popular. What we might be able to do is make the DNC run a candidate that people will vote for.

The United States is a strange country. Murder, terrorism and genocide are perfectly normal, but someone who is disgusted by these and refuses to play along is somehow considered weird.

Liberal nazification has progressed to the point where "not endorsing the r@pe and genocide of millions" is now "being on a high horse".

The lesser evil is actually a mass armed uprising, but you privileged fascists-in-denial reject that course out of hand because it might personally inconvenience you, and would rather knowingly support Holocaust 2 than lift a finger for humanity.

Then again what is the other Option?

Insane levels of Stockholm syndrome on display. "It puts the genocide on the skin, or else it gets the Trump again."

What should the German people have done when Hitler rose to power? Knowing what we know now, what would have been the best "option" for them?

They will be shown as many times as it takes for you to demand better than blue hitler

Man, you really just have to post "I refuse to support genocide" to bring the blue maga nazis out of the woodwork.

It's very simple: I refuse to support genocide.

they're not stupid, they're disaffected and ignoring why they're disaffected will lead to more people not voting.

If genocide is bipartisan, the lesser evil is whichever will collapse the US the fastest.

You aren't asking a big enough question to actually grasp what the lesser evil even is.

The first question you really want to ask is "what is the primary contradiction?" We can discuss what that might be, US hegemony or Western imperialism or neocolonialism, but this will inform our understanding of how we should vote. Only once we identify the primary contradiction should we cast our votes in whatever way will advance the struggle against it.

Let's say we identify US hegemony as the primary contradiction. Does voting for Harris help advance the struggle against US hegemony? No! She would have been a fine steward of the empire, if she was president the hegemon would be in better shape than it is under Trump and the struggle against it would be even harder.

Trump is wrecking the empire, and in light of this, Trump winning is actually a lesser evil. What we see under Trump is the US pulling back from all of its soft-power while threatening its own allies. Yes, it has become more violent, but the violence isn't a sign of strength. The US is in a weaker position than it has ever been in my life. All is chaos under heaven, the situation is excellent.

But, if Trump winning was the lesser evil, does that mean we vote for Trump? Also no! It's important for him to not actually ever be popular within the US, because that also erodes his own legitimacy among the US population and makes the US itself harder to govern. The fact that he "won" with 49.9% of the vote isn't the best outcome, better would be losing the popular vote again, but it's still good because forcing USAmericans to confront the weakness of their elections also weakens its position as the hegemon. They look at their own elections, look at Trump winning twice without ever getting a majority, and ask "do we live in a democracy?"

(The answer is no by the way.)

His unpopularity is why there was an uprising against ICE in Minnesota. There wouldn't even be protests against ICE if Harris was president, and there weren't under Biden despite him deporting more than Trump in his first term, but under Trump people can easily see what they have always been: colonial occupation troops. Under Democrats the streets are empty, under Trump the people fight back. The BLM uprisings happened under Trump, but it was Bill Clinton that gave us the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 to fill the prisons with Black people. This has to be factored in when we ask what the lesser evil is.

They're both great evils, so identifying the primary contradiction is the only way we can identify what is to be done.

Notably, this is not accelerationism. The goal here isn't to make things worse so they get better. The goal is to make the US empire weaker, because we have identified US hegemony as the primary contradiction and that's what we are struggling against. Revolutionary defeatism, in other words.

And when they did it for hilldog

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/

You guys always cope any acknowledgement of what's gonna have to be done with "I will not stop caping for genocide until you provide me your exact actionable information plus detailed plans for insurrection" ok officer, would you prefer a pdf or a text document?

Lets be real, I could give you every detail and you would still look for reasons to decide it pales in comparison to your strategy of uh...going 99% Hitler to win elections and still losing.

Join your local communist party and start organizing with your neighborhood like the rest of us, dude. I promise it's less scary when you're not alone. As it stands, you chose evil over courage.

i'm the kind of person that ice is actively hunting down (and was caught back in the 1980's by ice's predecessor) and refusing to vote for a pro-empire candidate; trump or not; is the only way to reverse ice's existence.

ice has been an incoming thing since 2001. the republicans have accelerated it, the democrats are actively refusing to abolish or reverse it, so supporting either democrats or republicans will not reverse it.