You forgot the quest marker hovering above the monster's head and the popup saying, "Monsters can hide in darkness. Use your lantern to light up dark areas."

Yeah, redesign the lighting engine and redo all the textures, without once thinking about the intentionality behind the original design. I honestly think that remaking a game is a harder task than making a new one in most cases, or at least requires a set of skills most game developers don't have.

In general I agree with the sentiment, but this was definitely not the case with Oblivion.

OK but the monster in the first frame just looks like he has a little smile.

Absolutely true, but it's really easy to do a bad remake, slap the original pricing on it and cash in on nostalgia

Basically all the Resident Evil remakes

Gears of War and Halo. At least Halo 1 and 2 let you switch back.

Warcraft III: Reforged

Strangely enough, this also affects HD remasters of old shows. The Buffy The Vampire Slayer HD remaster has a lot of lighting issues. A lot of scenes which were colored to look like evening or night just look like daytime.

any creative medium/experience will never be limited by the technology they use to produce it if they lean into a really good artistic vision, like the first terminator movie

Oblivion, and Diablo II did a really good job, but I temember playing the Fable 1 remaster and feeling EXACTLY like this. The amount of fleshy detail added to the eyelids and skin made the game hard to play for me

The original was already vibrant and bright, so they had to change up the light in a different way. 🙃

Oh oh, let's also bring back the DLSS5 memes because the automation literally does this. Lol

Jesus Christ.

What the actual fuck am I looking at.

The things I distinctly associate with Oblivion (other than jank) are emerald green hills and the overly bloomy lighting. They are absent in the remake and replaced with a more standard UE5 look. It looks good, but I don't think it captures the original

They messed with the aspect ratio too didn't they? Shots are framed wrong now

GTA Trilogy "Remastered"

Old stuff made for TV is often in 4:3, the modern stuff is in 16:9 or even wider like for cinema. Sometimes older stuff was filmed in something closer to 16:9 and was cropped to 4:3, you can just crop it differently for a remaster without losing anything. You can see that in the picture, there's a lot more space to the right of the characters, which unfortunately places them closer to the center instead of the side of the screen.

I would say Diablo II still holds up if you put a CRT shader over the game. It is such a good game.

Switch back with caveats, the lighting on "old" graphics where broken for a very long time, maybe even still broken. At least on MCC

It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.

That’s blatantly false

Yeah, cropping was a pretty big issue too.

Exactly. A lot of times there is footage to pull out that got cropped out of the original broadcast, BUT the original shot was made with the crop in mind and there was a decision made about how to crop that particular scene. Just tossing in the full frame without any thought about the result can really change the feel of a scene.

It's hella night fam. Nom'd by a grue? Bet.

can you name any examples

Mel Brookes probably loved seeing this.

The ruination of horror games...

I have mixed feeling on this.

The remaster really does look great, and it's clear they put a lot of passion and love into it.

But "atmosphere" is a tricky concept, and I didn't feel like the remaster really captured the original's. Instead it replaced it with its own more "epic" atmosphere. The difference is most jarring to me with NPCs. The corny, cheesy vibes they give off take me right out of the new "epic" tone. But in the original, it all just fits.

You need to use magic missile to fight the darkness

If I want to make a 3D game on a gameboy (the 3D part being an essential part of the experience) I simply can’t. That’s a technical limitation of my art that has nothing to do with the art style

Yeah, I loved playing the oblivion remaster. It gave the old "high fantasy" art style a fresh coat of paint and updated some mechanics to be a bit more modern. The original still holds up great sans everyone looking like putty.

I see what you're saying, but Bethesda's dialogue transitions have always been jarring so it didn't really fuck it up for me.

That's fair. And I wouldn't say it fucked it up for me, I still enjoyed the remaster quite a lot (though I actually did wind up doing a much longer modded play through of the original right after... cuz many more better mods). But it really did highlight how different the atmosphere and tone were.

To be fair, during exploration, I found the remaster's atmosphere to be an improvement. It felt a lot more immersive.

Dawn of war was severely limited by the tech of the time and was basically released as multiple separate games due to file size limitations. The Enhanced addition beyond cleaning up and updating the game for modern systems is still the janky mess it was in 2006.

Yeah, but the cracks per brick count is way up, and they're each unique cracks.

Ping pong, but you use a couple of Game Boys as the paddles. It's still considered the highest fidelity game played with a Game Boy...

...and in low light conditions you can turn the back lights on.

I'll show you a unique crack

sure, but did people love it? I think that's all that matters when having fun

I guess what I am trying to get across in my original comment (poorly lol) is the fact that you don't have to have a lot more computational power to make good art, you just need a good vision to make people feel positive emotions when playing a game.

it's what a lot of these HD remakes today are missing. the most recent example I can think of is the remaster of the first gears of war game: all the darkness and grit in the campaign was simply deleted

I've been playing a lot of Project Diablo II lately. I don't know exactly what they've done, but the graphics look like I remember them, but with proper widescreen and more fps. The team behind it have done an absolutely incredibly job.

I guess if we are getting nitpicky, how is something that doesn't support 3d a technical limitation of your art? it never supported it in the first place lol

I think the point they're making is that you don't HAVE to make a 3D game, that's not required for art. If you can't make an artistic experience out of something without access to 3D, it's not the hardware that's limiting you, it's your artistic vision.

Reviews are good for the game and it plays just as the originals. My point was there's a point where technical limitations exist that can and do cause issues, Dawn of War being the best example since the original game was spread over like 5 individual games due to limitation reasons from the era, meanwhile they should've been individual DLCs.

Except Game Boys dont have backlights without those massive attachments, they didnt get a backlight until the SPs came out.

Idk the new version crashes more than the old version without any mods. I could try it now that I am on Linux but when I left my windows PC it straight up wouldnt launch anymore.

Fable is such a weird game to do that to as well. The proportions of the people and items were cartoony and unrealistic in a way that saved it from being revealed as the insanely screwed up world that it is. Giving it the photorealistic treatment was doomed from the start.

If I can’t make my art how I want it it’s not my art

My point is that you can be limited in your art by the technology of your time

Imagine giving Bach a synthesiser, or a caveman clean white paper and colour pencils

You can press Jump to Jump!

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