| Post Reply | RetroFed Forum Forum Index
» linuxmemes
Page 1 of 2 Goto page 1, 2 Next Last » |
| Author | Message | ||
|---|---|---|---|
|
Pommes_für_dein_Balg
feddit.org
mech@feddit.org Joined: 2025-10-06 |
|
||
| 258 Original | |||
woelkchen
lemmy.world
woelkchen@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
That's pretty much what GNU is about, just technologically superior. |
||
| 6 | |||
Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ
piefed.zip
Sxan@piefed.zipJoined: 2025-06-18 |
Inevitable. |
||
| 4 | |||
|
mogoh
lemmy.ml
mogoh@lemmy.ml Joined: 2021-04-12 |
PulseAudio? We are at Pipewired now! |
||
| 28 | |||
|
Saapas
piefed.zip
Saapas@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-11-23 |
I honestly thought systemd-homed seemed like a pretty sweet idea, last time I heard about it. Of course it was mostly just people screaming how systemd was literally hitler for even suggesting it |
||
| 24 | |||
|
mmmm
sopuli.xyz
mmmm@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-04-07 |
You had the chance to call it SystemdOSd and somehow you missed it. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Also why aren't you including the most important piece, systemd-antivirusd? |
||
| 66 | |||
|
Buffalox
lemmy.world
Buffalox@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
You had the chance to call it SystemdOSd and somehow you missed it. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Also why aren't you including the most important piece, systemd-antivirusd?
I have no idea where the antivirus came from? |
||
| 2 | |||
|
esc
piefed.social
esc@piefed.social Joined: 2026-03-24 |
I honestly thought systemd-homed seemed like a pretty sweet idea, last time I heard about it. Of course it was mostly just people screaming how systemd was literally hitler for even suggesting it
Almost every project under systemd umbrella is great, most distros really underutilize it's capabilities. |
||
| 12 | |||
|
Buffalox
lemmy.world
Buffalox@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
PulseAudio? We are at Pipewired now!
Absolutely, but I guess the joke is that Pulseaudio was also a project headed by Lennart Poettering. The transition to Pipewire however has been amazingly smooth by comparison. I haven't detected any downsides, and the switch caused zero issues. |
||
| 20 | |||
|
Buffalox
lemmy.world
Buffalox@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
This post is amusing and funny, but personally I love systemd and I was also very fond of PulseAudio that brought massive improvements at the time. Remember before systemd the most popular init system was upstart, and upstart was buggy as hell, with very serious bugs that existed for years without being fixed, because the basic design of init systems made it very very hard (impossible). and upstart was arguably the best among the rest. But because Ubuntu also switched to systemd, upstart has been deprecated because Upstart was an Ubuntu project. systemd was an entirely new design strategy that fixed errors that had been impossible to fix with traditional init systems. But IMO the design of systemd seems like pure genius, really a solution to a problem that needed fixing. |
||
| 9 | |||
|
Pommes_für_dein_Balg
feddit.org
mech@feddit.org Joined: 2025-10-06 |
I have no idea where the antivirus came from? OP uses mostly actual examples of Linux functionality. I have never used nor needed an antivirus on Linux. And I haven't heard that systemd should have anything special in that area either.
Antivirus in the classical sense is an outdated concept anyway. |
||
| 15 | |||
|
jdr
lemmy.ml
jdr@lemmy.ml Joined: 2021-07-28 |
Format your drive with ddd |
||
| 70 | |||
|
prettybunnys
piefed.social
prettybunnys@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-10 |
This post is amusing and funny, but personally I love systemd and I was also very fond of PulseAudio that brought massive improvements at the time. Lennart Poettering is absolutely a hero of Linux and Open Source, and helping Linux as a full blown high quality OS get to where it is today. Stronger and better than ever!!! Contrary to other major operating systems that suffer from serious Enshitt...
I’d wager most folks aren’t even sure why systemd was “controversial” and don’t remember a time before it, but are instead just jumping on systemd implementing age as a field. |
||
| 12 | |||
|
Buffalox
lemmy.world
Buffalox@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
I’d wager most folks aren’t even sure why systemd was “controversial” and don’t remember a time before it, but are instead just jumping on systemd implementing age as a field.
A lot of the controversy against systemd was pure bullshit.
My guess is you are right, but age verification is not an idea of systemd, implementing it is an attempt at making it possible to fulfill a legal requirement by some countries. It's stupid, but stupid is now planned to be legally required in some countries. |
||
| 3 | |||
|
MonkderVierte
lemmy.zip
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-05-30 |
This post is amusing and funny, but personally I love systemd and I was also very fond of PulseAudio that brought massive improvements at the time. Lennart Poettering is absolutely a hero of Linux and Open Source, and helping Linux as a full blown high quality OS get to where it is today. Stronger and better than ever!!! Contrary to other major operating systems that suffer from serious Enshitt...
[deleted]
|
||
| 0 | |||
|
prettybunnys
piefed.social
prettybunnys@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-10 |
A lot of the controversy against systemd was pure bullshit. but are instead just jumping on systemd implementing age as a field. My guess is you are right, but age verification is not an idea of systemd, implementing it is an attempt at making it possible to fulfill a legal requirement by some countries. It's stupid, but stupid is now planned to be legally required in some countries.
Yep, turns out technology enthusiasts who have a vested interest in an operating system are an opinionated bunch |
||
| 4 | |||
|
Buffalox
lemmy.world
Buffalox@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
[deleted]
WTF? I also mentioned upstart, and I call them init systems after the original init?! Can you even read? |
||
| 1 | |||
|
MonkderVierte
lemmy.zip
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-05-30 |
WTF? I also mentioned upstart, and I call them init systems after the original init?! Can you even read?
I zoomed too fast, my bad. |
||
| 4 | |||
|
Buffalox
lemmy.world
Buffalox@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
I zoomed too fast, my bad.
OK at least you admit the mistake. 👍 |
||
| 3 | |||
rektstarsceosu
lemmy.zip
rektstarsceosu@lemmy.zipJoined: 2024-05-31 |
rmd -rfd /d --nod-preserved-rootd |
||
| 37 | |||
communism
lemmy.ml
communism@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-03-19 |
Enjoying the term daemond. |
||
| 21 | |||
GooeyGlob
lemmy.world
gooeyglob@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Replaced my third system with artix and could not be happier. |
||
| 6 | |||
|
SigHunter
discuss.tchncs.de
SigHunter@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2024-04-07 |
This post is amusing and funny, but personally I love systemd and I was also very fond of PulseAudio that brought massive improvements at the time. Lennart Poettering is absolutely a hero of Linux and Open Source, and helping Linux as a full blown high quality OS get to where it is today. Stronger and better than ever!!! Contrary to other major operating systems that suffer from serious Enshitt...
Gentoo offers systemd and OpenRC, not SysV |
||
| 7 | |||
|
Agent641
lemmy.world
Agent641@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-12 |
rmd -rfd /d --nod-preserved-rootd
You forgot your sudod |
||
| 27 | |||
|
ozymandias117
lemmy.world
ozymandias117@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-22 |
Minor notes, then we can begin implementation Only systemd is in PID1, login, journal, etc are their own PIDs Surely we'd use pipewired, not pulseaudiod Graphics and system ram may be unified, so we need a RAMArbitord that is shared between the main kernel and DRM blocks |
||
| 9 | |||
|
spectrums_coherence
piefed.social
spectrums_coherence@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-15 |
D-Bus Daemond is superceded by systemd-busd |
||
| 15 | |||
Semperverus
lemmy.world
semperverus@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-11 |
This post is amusing and funny, but personally I love systemd and I was also very fond of PulseAudio that brought massive improvements at the time. Lennart Poettering is absolutely a hero of Linux and Open Source, and helping Linux as a full blown high quality OS get to where it is today. Stronger and better than ever!!! Contrary to other major operating systems that suffer from serious Enshitt...
SystemD itself was fine. Not great but better than what we had and I was happy with what it did. But then it started to sprawl and take over things it had no business doing. At this point I am no longer using the Linux kernel, I'm using the SystemD kernel, and as soon as Poettering feels like it he can simply sell the rights to SystemD to a big corpo like Microsoft once everything fully depends on it. |
||
| 5 | |||
Semperverus
lemmy.world
semperverus@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-11 |
I’d wager most folks aren’t even sure why systemd was “controversial” and don’t remember a time before it, but are instead just jumping on systemd implementing age as a field.
Ive been riding SystemD for its faults since the beginning. The age verification was just one more on the pile. |
||
| 2 | |||
|
Feathercrown
lemmy.world
Feathercrown@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
Format your drive with ddd
|
||
| 34 | |||
|
Hildegard (she/her)
lemmy.blahaj.zone
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-12-07 |
I'm hyped for the systemd web browser and systemd 3D modeling software. It will be the full system one day. |
||
| 8 | |||
1995ToyotaCorolla
lemmy.world
1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-09 |
You forgot your sudod
Userd is not listed in sudoers.filed. Lennart poettering will now teleport behind you |
||
| 17 | |||
|
muhyb
programming.dev
muhyb@programming.dev Joined: 2023-07-05 |
Format your drive with ddd
|
||
| 26 | |||
|
Buffalox
lemmy.world
Buffalox@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
SystemD itself was fine. Not great but better than what we had and I was happy with what it did. But then it started to sprawl and take over things it had no business doing. At this point I am no longer using the Linux kernel, I'm using the SystemD kernel, and as soon as Poettering feels like it he can simply sell the rights to SystemD to a big corpo like Microsoft once everything fully depends on it.
There were pros and cons, I get the annoyance with the binary vs text files. |
||
| 1 | |||
|
Buffalox
lemmy.world
Buffalox@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
Gentoo offers systemd and OpenRC, not SysV
OK thanks apparently OpenRC is a further development of Sysvinit, having many similarities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenRC
This is probably because it's still hard to get to work without handcrafting for a particular system, IMO a very telling difference between the old init designs contrary to systemd that handles parallel startups like a champ. |
||
| 0 | |||
fnrir
lemmy.blahaj.zone
fnrir@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-02-20 |
Userd is not listed in sudoers.filed. Lennart poettering will now teleport behind you
Do you mean run0(d)? |
||
| 6 | |||
printf("%s", name);
piefed.blahaj.zone
akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-03-30 |
|
||
| 8 | |||
rektstarsceosu
lemmy.zip
rektstarsceosu@lemmy.zipJoined: 2024-05-31 |
You forgot your sudod
i always run my shelld as rootd 😎 |
||
| 7 | |||
juipeltje
lemmy.world
juipeltje@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-02 |
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact Systemd/Linux, or as i've recently taken to calling it, Systemd plus Linux. |
||
| 30 | |||
|
teslekova
sh.itjust.works
teslekova@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-01-09 |
Userd is not listed in sudoers.filed. Lennart poettering will now teleport behind you
Nothingd personelld |
||
| 7 | |||
black0ut
pawb.social
black0ut@pawb.socialJoined: 2023-06-10 |
I honestly thought systemd-homed seemed like a pretty sweet idea, last time I heard about it. Of course it was mostly just people screaming how systemd was literally hitler for even suggesting it
Arch adopted systemd-homed and, at the time, I didn't even know what it did. But it somehow borked my system. I never needed it, it was added for no reason, and like a lot of systemd features, it broke stuff. I'm still salty about systemd-networkd messing up my network. Or about systemd-resolved taking over my custom DNS. I have so many systemd packages blacklisted atp, and I don't even want to. But they keep breaking shit. This is just an anecdote and it may not be representative of anything, but that's my 2 cents. |
||
| 2 | |||
mlg
lemmy.world
mlg@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-29 |
My favorite systemd moment was when Lennart and Kay shouted "systemdeez nutz!" in the kernel mailing list and then proceeded to systemd all over the place. |
||
| 22 | |||
black0ut
pawb.social
black0ut@pawb.socialJoined: 2023-06-10 |
OK thanks apparently OpenRC is a further development of Sysvinit, having many similarities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenRC Parallel service startup (off by default) This is probably because it's still hard to get to work without handcrafting for a particular system, IMO a very telling difference between the old init designs contrary to systemd that handles parallel startups like a champ.
In my experience, booting using single threaded inits (at least in their early stages) actually speeds up the process. The overhead from multithreaded startup on something as simple as an init system can hurt startup performance, especially on older CPUs. |
||
| 3 | |||
|
prole
lemmy.blahaj.zone
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-11 |
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact Systemd/Linux, or as i've recently taken to calling it, Systemd plus Linux.
Here's the thing. You said "Systemd/Linux is Linux." Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies Linux, I am telling you, specifically.... Eh fuck it, you get the idea |
||
| 5 | |||
|
aurelar
lemmy.ml
aurelar@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-06-06 |
Don't give them ideas. |
||
| 8 | |||
|
corsicanguppy
lemmy.ca
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
This post is amusing and funny, but personally I love systemd and I was also very fond of PulseAudio that brought massive improvements at the time. Lennart Poettering is absolutely a hero of Linux and Open Source, and helping Linux as a full blown high quality OS get to where it is today. Stronger and better than ever!!! Contrary to other major operating systems that suffer from serious Enshitt...
For 5 years; maybe. Before, during, and since, sysV is still the most popular. And, as dictionaries, politics and Windows will tell you, what is popular is not always best. |
||
| 4 | |||
Bilb!
lemmy.ml
bilb@lemmy.mlJoined: 2020-12-23 |
Here's the thing. You said "Systemd/Linux is Linux." Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies Linux, I am telling you, specifically.... Eh fuck it, you get the idea
I wonder what Unidan is doing these days. |
||
| 5 | |||
khánh
lemmy.zip
khanh@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-01-20 |
|
||
| 5 | |||
|
wltr
discuss.tchncs.de
wltr@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-10-26 |
I had to check the sub, as that was convincing! |
||
| 6 | |||
|
Buffalox
lemmy.world
Buffalox@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
Remember before systemd the most popular init system was upstart, For 5 years; maybe. Before, during, and since, sysV is still the most popular. And, as dictionaries, politics and Windows will tell you, what is popular is not always best.
Yes upstart was relatively short lived 8 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstart_(software) But Ubuntu did put some effort into improving the init process with Upstart, and it was the fastest init system until systemd beat it by being way way better at multi threading. |
||
| 1 | |||
|
Billegh
lemmy.world
bhamlin@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
I wonder what Unidan is doing these days.
Probably still playing with his jackdaws. |
||
| 4 | |||
|
Billegh
lemmy.world
bhamlin@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Hardwared killed me. Am I crazy to assume it will be available for both x86d and x86d-64d?
I'll hold out for riscvd |
||
| 5 | |||
| Post Reply |
Page 1 of 2
Goto page
1, 2
Next
Last »
Back to top |