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JackbyDev
programming.dev
JackbyDev@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-13 |
Mozilla exec compensation aside (relative to other tech CEOs it is pretty low) the reason they do this is because they are trying to make money in some way that isn't the Google search box. The other thing to consider is that even though a lot of people around here and AI skeptics loads is the general public are not and use it everyday and don't think twice. I swear the Firefox users have no pe...
Yep. Well, I don't necessarily agree it started exclusively for the ads, but they definitely wanted to create something that they control. Microsoft Edge and Opera switching to Chromium just means Google has more soft control on how the web operates. (Even saying "soft" there is pretty generous.) A majority of browsers are Chromium forks. Google can control how the web operates because of it. But to your point though, thwarting ad blocking is a huge part of it now. The manifest V3 changes (which severely limited what sorts of ad blocking extensions could do) came the same year they listed ad blocking as a significant risk to their revenue in their shareholder statement. Which, I just wanna mention for folks who might not be keeping up with this as much, isn't some sort of conspiratorial statement. It's a public document because they're a publicly traded company. |
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mirshafie
europe.pub
mirshafie@europe.pub Joined: 2025-11-07 |
Firefox isn't used by the "general public". The general public doesn't give a shit about open-source or which corporate logo is stamped on their copy of Chromium. Many won't even look past Edge, and the rest will likely use Chrome because everyone does already. No, Firefox is used by the enthusiasts who care about not using Chromium; about actively choosing control over convenience. Now Mozilla...
I guarantee you that most Firefox users do not feel the level of emotions that you do on these issues, either about the AI prompt sidebar or the CEO's salary. They also don't use Firefox to spite Google. They use it because they think it's better than Chromium. You're unhappy with Firefox? Easy fork. Off you go. Want to convince me to be mad too? Okay, make your case, but don't just assume that I'd just have to be mad if I just knew that there's gasp an AI sidebar that I can use if I want to. |
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kahoodd
reddthat.com
kahoodd@reddthat.com Joined: 2026-02-10 |
shoutout to MPV! |
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Amberskin
europe.pub
Amberskin@europe.pub Joined: 2025-03-26 |
A big share of Linux contributions come from big tech companies, which are definitely making a profit from it |
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Murdoc
sh.itjust.works
Murdoc@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-09 |
The capitalist imperative is: make as much profit as you can as fast as you can. The fastest way to make as much profit as you can is not to create the best possible product. Sure, that'll get you far enough- but in capitalism there is never "enough". For instance, you could use the capital you amassed to buy up all the competition and create a monopoly and hike prices to whatever you like beca...
So basically what it all comes down to is competition and not just greed like most people believe. If you don't make more money than the competition, you will fail. That's why companies keep getting bought out all the time, they lost this game. Most people have no idea just how many companies they know are owned by bigger ones they may not know. The whole thing is conglomerating like the T-1000 after it had been shattered and melted. So rabid profit chasing is a matter of survival. |
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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot
lemmy.world
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-10 |
Where is FreeCad in this one? I've started using it after buying a 3d printer, and it's awesome what that piece of software lets me create.
It's got OpenOffice in it. This picture must be ancient. |
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stray
pawb.social
stray@pawb.social Joined: 2025-01-13 |
So why is Mozilla shoving AI garbage nobody asked for into Firefox? I seriously doubt that their severely overpaid execs don't have some kind of profit incentive.
The Mozilla Foundation is non-profit, but the Mozilla Corporation is for-profit. |
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0x0
lemmy.zip
0x0@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-04-04 |
Obligatory shoutout to curl. |
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chaotic_ugly
lemmy.zip
chaotic_ugly@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-02-22 |
I'm not sure Firefox belongs on this list. Google finances Mozilla's operation to the tune of $420M a year. It's not for-profit, but it's also not the same as the others. |
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Psythik
lemmy.world
Psythik@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-21 |
Audacity sold out and is now spyware; use Tenacity instead. |
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Redvenom
retrolemmy.com
Redvenom@retrolemmy.com Joined: 2026-02-18 |
When money comes in the picture, then profit is more important than the product, and this people really loved the product they are doing, if they have enough money to live comfortably they get to keep control of something they care and love. |
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MoffKalast
lemmy.world
MoffKalast@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-02 |
Obligatory shoutout to curl.
I'm more of a wget kinda guy myself. |
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MoffKalast
lemmy.world
MoffKalast@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-02 |
Apache OpenOffice?? Surely you meant LibreOffice. OpenOffice has basically been dead for years, with no significant work going on.
LibreOffice has been updated? Interface still looks like it was designed for Windows 95. |
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Kairos
lemmy.today
LodeMike@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-26 |
Firefox is not high quality. Every other browser is just worse. |
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brown567
sh.itjust.works
brown567@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-09-28 |
Audacity sold out and is now spyware; use Tenacity instead.
For real!? Damn |
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Trouble
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Trouble@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Firefox is not high quality. Every other browser is just worse.
Tbh I quite like it |
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lauha
lemmy.world
lauha@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-29 |
I'm not sure Firefox belongs on this list. Google finances Mozilla's operation to the tune of $420M a year. It's not for-profit, but it's also not the same as the others.
If you have better ideas for financing firefox, go ahead :) |
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#Km91#
sh.itjust.works
Lisk91@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-07-02 |
Firefox is not high quality. Every other browser is just worse.
π«’ Kof, kof! ...fork browsers. |
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definitely_AI
feddit.online
definitely_AI@feddit.onlineJoined: 2026-02-28 |
So basically what it all comes down to is competition and not just greed like most people believe. If you don't make more money than the competition, you will fail. That's why companies keep getting bought out all the time, they lost this game. Most people have no idea just how many companies they know are owned by bigger ones they may not know. The whole thing is conglomerating like the T-1000...
That is precisely correct, capitalism is in some sense like a story, I don't remember who wrote it, in which human scientists ask a semi-omnipotent AI to answer some question, and the AI decides that in order to solve it, it needs to transform all the matter in the solar system into an even greater AI, and calmly treats human extinction as an irrelevant side effect. "Maximize profit forever" is a bad algorithm if the goal is to sustain a thriving human society. It has no goal state. Just more, forever. Capitalism is fundamentally flawed in its core design and central idea, that somehow, by creating ever more "wealth", everyone gets richer as a whole, while not taking into account the societal effects of some getting vastly richer than others, compounding over time unto infinity. I could go on. But capitalism is a fundamentally broken idea that will implode on itself as a matter of causation as it plays out over time, it is logically and physically incapable of sustaining itself. We are seeing the late stage effects of it play out before our eyes right now. |
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Kairos
lemmy.today
LodeMike@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-26 |
π«’ Kof, kof! ...fork browsers.
Same issues |
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dueuwuje
aussie.zone
dueuwuje@aussie.zone Joined: 2023-08-13 |
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Also Deltahedra. |
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BartyDeCanter
lemmy.sdf.org
BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-06-15 |
Yeah and they get other devs contributing to their project. Nobody's making Firefox or Blender as a solo project, but band together with some other nerds and this is what you get.
Never doubt the power of nerds arguing over their specific interests to make something amazing. Wikipedia is arguably one of the greatest achievements of humankind, entirely powered by nerd fights. |
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BartyDeCanter
lemmy.sdf.org
BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-06-15 |
I'm more of a wget kinda guy myself.
Iβm more of a Zmodem guy. |
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bestboyfriendintheworld
sh.itjust.works
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-09-21 |
LibreOffice has been updated? Interface still looks like it was designed for Windows 95.
It still looks and behaves like StarOffice. The templates they include look ancient as well. They do have a mediocre copy of Microsoftβs ribbon interface. |
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bestboyfriendintheworld
sh.itjust.works
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-09-21 |
They made high quality software... Until they got a profit incentive.
They actually pay their employees. |
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ulterno
programming.dev
ulterno@programming.dev Joined: 2024-11-12 |
They actually pay their employees.
??? |
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homes
piefed.world
homes@piefed.world Joined: 2025-12-28 |
Because itβs fun! |
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Scrollone
feddit.it
Scrollone@feddit.it Joined: 2023-06-03 |
If you have better ideas for financing firefox, go ahead :)
First of all, I'd get rid of a CEO that wants to be paid millions of dollars a year. |
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bestboyfriendintheworld
sh.itjust.works
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-09-21 |
Media Wiki actually makes money though. |
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null
lemmy.org
null@lemmy.org Joined: 2026-02-21 |
I'm not sure Firefox belongs on this list. Google finances Mozilla's operation to the tune of $420M a year. It's not for-profit, but it's also not the same as the others.
It's an easy paycheck for allowing Google as the default search setting. If Microsoft paid as much we would be seeing the same arguments about Bing. |
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Err(()).unwrap()
Moderator
rtxn@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-24 |
If you have better ideas for financing firefox, go ahead :)
Do what they did with Thunderbird. https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/05/thunderbird-is-thriving-our-2022-financial-report/ |
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YTG123
sopuli.xyz
ytg@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2024-03-11 |
For real!? Damn
Not really, it's still fully FOSS, they were just terrible at communicating what they actually wanted to do and people got spooked. |
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Iamaquantummechanic
lemmy.world
Iamaquantummechanic@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
So why is Mozilla shoving AI garbage nobody asked for into Firefox? I seriously doubt that their severely overpaid execs don't have some kind of profit incentive.
At least they listened to users and made it easy to turn off. Still not acceptable, but at least something. |
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0x0
lemmy.zip
0x0@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-04-04 |
I'm more of a wget kinda guy myself.
If all you use is HTTP or FTP then sure. |
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rozodru
piefed.world
rozodru@piefed.worldJoined: 2026-02-06 |
What people don't always remember about FOSS is they are just making it for themselves they are users as well as devs. The great thing about FOSS is if someone else happens to use it that's great and maybe they will contribute to something they use.
yeah I recently built myself a music player because I was just so disappointed with all the available options on Linux. Nothing had EVERYTHING I wanted. Many had really crappy shuffles or just didn't include one at all. many just wouldn't play the entirety of your music collection and most simply wouldn't do both online streaming and local music playback. So I built one that's TUI based that does everything I want and it's perfect. Allows me to play music from QoBuz, my Navidrome server, or just local music files OR I can play all three making a "SUPER" music library. Shuffle that ACTUALLY shuffles the ENTIRE collection. search feature, integration with soulseek to download music to either my local machine or navidrome and qobuz search to add to that playlist. I'm not going to release it because A. like i said it's perfect for me and B. I dont' want to deal with users git issues or having to deal with other devs wanting to contribute. It works, it's mine, and that's that. will never see the light of day. |
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bender223
lemmy.today
bender223@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-09-09 |
I'm not sure Firefox belongs on this list. Google finances Mozilla's operation to the tune of $420M a year. It's not for-profit, but it's also not the same as the others.
hmm.....if Firefox dies, can LibreWolf continue? π€ |
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π²πππππππ πΌπππ
programming.dev
ChairmanMeow@programming.devJoined: 2023-08-16 |
hmm.....if Firefox dies, can LibreWolf continue? π€
Doubtful. Librewolf still uses Firefox as base. |
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chaotic_ugly
lemmy.zip
chaotic_ugly@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-02-22 |
hmm.....if Firefox dies, can LibreWolf continue? π€
Almost certainly not. All the offshoots from Mozilla's tech rely first and foremost on Mozilla's production of the foundational software, which eats up a significant portion of their roughly $500M/yr operational costs. The heavy development cost of modern browsers is why everything is either Chromium or Gecko-based. That said, Mozilla will be around as long as Chromium continues to dominate the market. Google literally funds Mozilla because it's cheaper to prop up a competitor than it is to be sued by the government for monopolistic practices (check out 1998 decision against Microsoft for bundling Internet Explorer with Windows). |
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Ptsf
lemmy.world
Ptsf@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-15 |
If you ever feel like you can't make anything good, keep in mind that companies will intentionally make worse stuff
π€ I'm upset I never thought about it this way till now. |
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lps2
lemmy.ml
lps2@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-06-03 |
Got any links to learning? Ive gotten pretty far in fusion360 but am trying to transition and found f360 let's me be too lazy or sketch centric/doesn't require parametric rules
Check out MangoJelly on YouTube. The guy has hundreds of tutorials for FreeCAD and they're great |
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enumerator4829
sh.itjust.works
enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-01-26 |
Ok, while most of these donβt have companies behind them with huge revenues, most work on these projects is done by paid developers, with money coming from sponsorships, grants, donations and support deals. (Or in the case of Linux - device drivers are a prerequisite for anyone buying your product). Developers getting paid to work on open source is a good thing. These projects may have begun their life as small hobby projects - they arenβt anymore. (And thatβs probably good) |
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WaxRhetorical
lemmy.world
WaxRhetorical@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-19 |
yeah I recently built myself a music player because I was just so disappointed with all the available options on Linux. Nothing had EVERYTHING I wanted. Many had really crappy shuffles or just didn't include one at all. many just wouldn't play the entirety of your music collection and most simply wouldn't do both online streaming and local music playback. So I built one that's TUI based that do...
Can I ask how you integrated Qobuz? I see they have a locked API and no other obvious way to integrate |
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bazzett
lemmy.world
bazzett@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
It really should be LibreWolf up there instead
The image says "making", not "rebranding". |
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SaharaMaleikuhm
feddit.org
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org Joined: 2024-07-23 |
Blender is so incredibly good. Big fan here. I'm just a hobbyist tho |
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SaharaMaleikuhm
feddit.org
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org Joined: 2024-07-23 |
What are some of the other functionalities of VLC?
Pretty sure you can convert videos with vlc and watch iptv |
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untorquer
quokk.au
untorquer@quokk.au Joined: 2025-12-03 |
Where is FreeCad in this one? I've started using it after buying a 3d printer, and it's awesome what that piece of software lets me create.
I wonder if it changed much in the last year. The assembly implementation is what's holding me back. Well, that and staring at cad all day at work already. |
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yardratianSoma
lemmy.ca
yardratianSoma@lemmy.caJoined: 2025-06-05 |
Where is FreeCad in this one? I've started using it after buying a 3d printer, and it's awesome what that piece of software lets me create.
definitely a goated application on linux by now. I've just started using it, and holy cow, it's way more capable than I thought it was. 1.0 was a blessing! |
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lastlybutfirstly
lemmy.world
lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-01-15 |
Non-profit means the corporation isn't set up to make a profit and the business operates off of donations instead of selling a product. So there is always a profit motive. I wish more people understood this. Everything from Greenpeace to MADD is still a corporation ran by people who want to make lots and lots of cash. |
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one_old_coder
piefed.social
one_old_coder@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-08 |
I heard they don't collect your private information and sell it to third parties, either. It's as if they hate society itself!
Line goes down :( |
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yardratianSoma
lemmy.ca
yardratianSoma@lemmy.caJoined: 2025-06-05 |
I'm not sure Firefox belongs on this list. Google finances Mozilla's operation to the tune of $420M a year. It's not for-profit, but it's also not the same as the others.
Google wants to finance anything they can get their damn search engine into, that's not entirely the fault of Firefox. I still use a firefox-based browser, but only for now. There is ladybird on the horizon, a browser being built from scratch, not based on either Gecko or Webkit. |
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