Genuine political change has to come from the people who live under it. If Trump got blown up tomorrow, it would no more change US politics than this is gonna do anything for Iranians. If you want a people to rise up against their "dictator" give them space to decide the best course of actions for themselves.

Why should Iranian citizens look on this as a good thing, take it as an opportunity overturn the system, when the country that bombed and ransacked their neighbors for 20+ years is looming like a vulture?

There is another problem. People use slurs to derail the discussions. Calling people "libs" or "tankies" left, right and center removes focus from whatever is discussed and make people crawl into their foxholes. It is an easy way to devalue people's opinions or simply derail discussions. I think I will keep on questioning when people use the word "tankie", because once the word is on the table, the discussion has already been derailed one way or another. And maybe one day it will lead to better discourse.

Why should they?

Yeah, there’s all sorts of crazy political purity tests on Lemmy, and associated misuse of slurs.

And on Wikipedia:

• On one side, my MAGA-adjacent family is starting to question it as “liberal biased”… as they leave Fox News blasting in the background.

• On the other, tankies and some different leftist extremist leftists dismiss it as propaganda.

That’s a good sign, to me. Its never been perfect and has problems, but extremists trying to tear its credibility down is a sign of just how valuable it is.

didnt ran like the rat netanyahu lol

With innocent, normal people caught in the crossfire. If those cunts would simply kill each other, fine. But it's always other people getting hit too.

Lovely rhetoric there, but I regularly read newspapers, so I am "avoiding" nothing. It is just nice to have spaces which are about something other than politics.

Just to be clear, are you calling for all communities to become politics communities, so that there are no spaces about anything else?

You should probably start doing that if you're going to use them as core components of your online arguments.

Nah lol

A genuine shitpost is an attempt at trolling. Ergo, all politics are genuinely shitposts.

Shitpost

a deliberately provocative or off-topic comment posted on social media, typically in order to upset others or distract from the main conversation.

The number of Chinese Marxist-Leninists alone vastly outnumbers us Western tankies. The vast majority of "tankies" live in various countries outside of the imperial core.

Even in the US, the most prominent and successful "tankie" organization was the Black Panther Party.

I listen to music with no lyrics, and I make some of my own. What's the politics in that? I build Lego with my kid. I eat a sandwich for lunch.

regardless of regime changes, nothing good comes from American interventions

We need to just start shitposting in every community, because everything is shitpost, and to deny that is to deny life. When you wake up in the morning, that's shitpost. When you drink a cup of coffee, that's shitpost. Drive to work, shitpost. It's all shitpost, and so I think all we can do is shitpost everywhere.

He did, as much as he could once he learned shit was going down, but it turns out Iran's intelligence, air defense and operational security all suck so he died in his bunker. He's killed almost as many Iranians in a couple months of protests as Netanyahu has killed Palestinians since the Oct 7 attacks. Bibi is absolute trash, but to pretend like Khamenei was better in any way is insane. They're both completely evil cowards.

he’s killed almost as many Iranians in a couple months of protests as Netanyahu has killed Palestinians since the Oct 7 attacks

Sure buddy, thats nice opinion, did epstien give it to you?

especially considering that over 100 schoolgirls were murdered in the process.

if a bomb killed 150 children and also took out Trump, I wouldn't celebrate it

The deaths of children will forever prevent america from being a hero here. So we've just created a new enemy, likely a more cunning one than the last.

i will not tell them how to think or feel. the old regime killed their families. the new regime will likely finish the job. iran, israel, the united states. none are working or fighting on behalf of the Iranian people. i will help them as they work to survive, but i will not moralize to them that they're wrong to feel how they feel about things that impact them directly

in the grand scale absolutely. nothing ever good comes from foreign interventions. a people must be given the tools to liberate themselves rather than have it decided for them what is best

Iran has been terrible at everything so far. I keep joking that they put huge arrows you can see from space with the naked eye showing where all their leaders, scientists, and generals are.

Iran must know they're infiltrated from top to bottom by Israel, no? Especially after those "abandoned trucks" filled with drones thing?

There's already a war against them by their own government that's killed over 30,000 Iranians since late December. Civilians are being slaughtered either way, but this way means that maybe the Ayatollahs won't be in power at the end.

The fun thing is your statement applies to both the US and Iran.

these morons don't think iran had a plan if their 86 year old leader died?

has Iran kidnapped and murdered foreign heads of state lately?

don't forget the bilionaires!

that's the point. make sure there are always people who hate America with all their soul. so there's always a justification for the US to be a military state.

the US doesn't want to liberate jack shit, they just want a puppet state

exactly

Man, defrag your badges for fuck sake

this is largely how we know i live in a terror state. america needs enemies to justify its continued imperial project so it will go out and manufacture them

The morons orchestrating these attacks are doing so to distract other morons from the sex and child trafficking crimes they committed.

Morons all the way down. Unfortunately these morons have access to ballistic missiles.

this isn't 1995 man, you can just watch the full video of that not happening anytime you like

How many times does Iran need to be clapped? Looks like they won't leading the Middle East with Russia and China.

Which is funny because this was just the main instance when I (and many others) learned about Lemmy. I've been called a tankie because of my instance when I'm pretty sure tankies would call me MAGA as I'm somewhere between a leftist, a liberal, and libertarian

The Ayatollah is the spiritual leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran

Jeffery Epstein is the spiritual leader of the 2025 USA regime

Unlike Albert would

when I say, cruelty is the point, this is why. that's why they do family separation, what's why ensure people suffer, both domestically and internationally. it's an investment in future targets

reasons to resist fascism:

1. basic fucking empathy, you shouldn't need more you jackass
2. oh? you need more you fucking sicko? fine. how about this. if the state is indescriminantly killing, it will only be a matter of time until it thoughtlessly kills you by "mistake"
3. jesus christ, you still need convincing? my god. okay. here you go. you reap what you sow. in 20 years the children who see what you're doing will be adults. there will be no forgiveness in their hearts for the parents, brothers, and sisters you killed. so maybe don't give them a reason to hate you

but fascist apologists lack empathy and they lack the critical thinking skills to be moved by the other two

you can't debate or convince them. best is ignore it and use that energy to build a better community without their input or consent.

you give people the chance to adjust and then you tell them to fuck off however is the most likely to see them self reflect (shun, physical violence) or never bother you again

Meme is technically correct, entire life ended after 1 day.

Sounds like he was 86 and wasn't hiding

Only thing I'm calling for is Socsa for President
They're better than your representative

Not at all, and you're not the first that tries to denaturate or change the definition of the word tankie.

A tankie is pro authoritarian, but instead of being pro fascism its being pro those who called themselves left like stalin lenin etc

So it describes the "left" Maga if you want.

I sure do understand why tankies would want to make believe the "tankie" is just like "woke" but it isn't, it's calling them out, showing that they are not leftists but authoritarians (so again, basically fascists).

If you use Israeli sources on amount of Palestinians killed and American sources on number of Iranians killed it might just be around the same no? /sarcasm