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🍹Early to RISA 🧉 sh.itjust.works Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works
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CubitOom infosec.pub CubitOom@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-06-08
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The Internet is a series of tubes

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wrinkledoo sh.itjust.works wrinkledoo@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-03-28
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I see we learned nothing from the "just learn code" blowback and are trying to make the industry even more barren.

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ramble81 lemmy.zip ramble81@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-08
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I can’t tell you the number of devs I’ve met that know jack shit about infrastructure and networking. Even simple questions like understanding their subnet or how a load balancer works.

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Dr. Wesker lemmy.sdf.org wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-06-10
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I'm a principal engineer making a killing and often feel like

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Baggie lemmy.zip Baggie@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-12-23
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I can’t tell you the number of devs I’ve met that know jack shit about infrastructure and networking. Even simple questions like understanding their subnet or how a load balancer works.

Look I'm mostly in infrastructure and I don't know much beyond core principles behind software development, I can't really cast stones. But yeah they can be surprisingly ignorant sometimes.

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NigelFrobisher aussie.zone NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-08-07
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I can’t tell you the number of devs I’ve met that know jack shit about infrastructure and networking. Even simple questions like understanding their subnet or how a load balancer works.

I’ve been developing for decades so obviously I know that the subnet is where the Lord Marshall went and returned with powers beyond mortal comprehension.

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ArgentRaven lemmy.world ArgentRaven@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
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The Internet is a series of tubes

It's not something you just dump stuff on. It's not a big truck!

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blarghly lemmy.world blarghly@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-29
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I can’t tell you the number of devs I’ve met that know jack shit about infrastructure and networking. Even simple questions like understanding their subnet or how a load balancer works.

The subwhat?

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python lemmy.world python@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
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I can’t tell you the number of devs I’ve met that know jack shit about infrastructure and networking. Even simple questions like understanding their subnet or how a load balancer works.

..well I don't have to know that because AWS is like, serverless, dude.

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deft lemmy.wtf deft@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2024-01-17
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I can’t tell you the number of devs I’ve met that know jack shit about infrastructure and networking. Even simple questions like understanding their subnet or how a load balancer works.

Not just your industry. Every industry is like this.

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deadbeef79000 lemmy.nz deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-06-17
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I’ve been developing for decades so obviously I know that the subnet is where the Lord Marshall went and returned with powers beyond mortal comprehension.

You keep what you kill.

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fervent_apathy anarchist.nexus fervent_apathy@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2026-05-07
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The subwhat?

It's the water based version of skynet.

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Kenny2999 lemmy.world Kenny2999@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-07
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greyscale lemmy.grey.ooo greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo
Joined: 2026-03-20
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I'm a principal engineer making a killing and often feel like

I'm a principle engineer, I'm broke as shit and I can see everyone else being incompetent (and outsourcing their brains to Claude) all day.

Gimmie one of these 130k jobs where I don't need to know anything, I'm sick of BS infra and k8s and shitass applications made as zillions of fucked microservices written by people who already bounced.

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Echo Dot feddit.uk echodot@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-26
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I can’t tell you the number of devs I’ve met that know jack shit about infrastructure and networking. Even simple questions like understanding their subnet or how a load balancer works.

That's because they're back end devs. There is one way to do things, you learn the one way to do the thing, you do it that way, you're done.

The fun is in front end, there is 15 different ways of doing things, but you don't like any of them, so you develop a 16th way, eventually you get bored of the 16th way so come up with a 17th way. Eventually you get sick of all of this and go back to SSGs as God intended.

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Valmond lemmy.dbzer0.com Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-11-13
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..well I don't have to know that because AWS is like, serverless, dude.

It's in the cloud

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Valmond lemmy.dbzer0.com Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-11-13
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I'm a principle engineer, I'm broke as shit and I can see everyone else being incompetent (and outsourcing their brains to Claude) all day. Gimmie one of these 130k jobs where I don't need to know anything, I'm sick of BS infra and k8s and shitass applications made as zillions of fucked microservices written by people who already bounced.

Knowledge without networking: low pay

Networkung without knowledge: hi pay

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jaybone lemmy.zip jaybone@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-02-08
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This was from 2023. Where is anon now?

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bless lemmy.ml bless@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-07-23
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The Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material

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greyscale lemmy.grey.ooo greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo
Joined: 2026-03-20
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Knowledge without networking: low pay Networkung without knowledge: hi pay

The normies have swapped a meritocracy for a kakistocracy.

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baines lemmy.cafe baines@lemmy.cafe
Joined: 2024-10-26
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that’s the rub, it doesn’t

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Zephyr sh.itjust.works Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-06-11
#23 · Quote Reply

How the internet works would be more so an IT thing than a backend developer thing at least on a high level. Setting up a database doesn't mean one knows networking well in the same way they probably don't know cpu logic gate design well.

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-05-30
#24 · (edited) Quote Reply

The black box people entrust their secrets to? (TPM, encrypting disks, cloud, AI)

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-05-30
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Knowledge without networking: low pay Networkung without knowledge: hi pay

Also goes for socials.

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rumschlumpel feddit.org rumschlumpel@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-23
#26 · (edited) Quote Reply

How the internet works would be more so an IT thing than a backend developer thing at least on a high level. Setting up a database doesn't mean one knows networking well in the same way they probably don't know cpu logic gate design well.

Arguably an engineering (hardware) or systems programming issue, too. How many IT people (even the highly competent ones) could design a router, wifi chip etc.? Or know in detail what's going on in an internet exchange point?

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SkunkWorkz lemmy.world SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-26
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I can’t tell you the number of devs I’ve met that know jack shit about infrastructure and networking. Even simple questions like understanding their subnet or how a load balancer works.

You are not a real dev unless you can build your own CPU atom by atom

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Zephyr sh.itjust.works Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-06-11
#28 · Quote Reply

Arguably an engineering (hardware) or systems programming issue, too. How many IT people (even the highly competent ones) could design a router, wifi chip etc.? Or know in detail what's going on in an internet exchange point?

True and how many of those guys are well versed in fiber optics at IXPs. Maybe with like 20 dudes you could get an extremely in-depth snapshot of how the internet works from transistors to transformers and everything in-between.

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dan69 lemmy.world dan69@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-01
#29 · Quote Reply

I'm a principle engineer, I'm broke as shit and I can see everyone else being incompetent (and outsourcing their brains to Claude) all day. Gimmie one of these 130k jobs where I don't need to know anything, I'm sick of BS infra and k8s and shitass applications made as zillions of fucked microservices written by people who already bounced.

I’ve heard this before, not everything has to become a microservice rather it’s okay for some aspects to be a monolith.

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greyscale lemmy.grey.ooo greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo
Joined: 2026-03-20
#30 · (edited) Quote Reply

I’ve heard this before, not everything has to become a microservice rather it’s okay for some aspects to be a monolith.

It was a regrettable trend 10 years ago and when your team contracts from 60 to 6 its an unmaintainable shitfest. I'm trying to coax them into merging them into a monolith with multiple entrypoints/builds so I have one set of dependencies to deal with.

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lessthanluigi lemmy.sdf.org lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2024-11-08
#31 · Quote Reply

This was from 2023. Where is anon now?

Laid off and back into NEETdom

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Event_Horizon lemmy.world Event_Horizon@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-08
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Hiw did you get that? Put it back ontop of big ben!

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deadbeef79000 lemmy.nz deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-06-17
#33 · Quote Reply

The Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material

Came looking for this. Was not disappointed.

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Farid startrek.website abfarid@startrek.website
Joined: 2023-08-15
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The black box people entrust their secrets to? (TPM, encrypting disks, cloud, AI)

No, this, Jen, is the internet.

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-05-30
#35 · (edited) Quote Reply

No, this, Jen, is the internet.

Ooh, that one!

The Cloud

Btw, i'm not Jen.

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Gregers lemmy.world Gregers@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-30
#36 · Quote Reply

How the internet works would be more so an IT thing than a backend developer thing at least on a high level. Setting up a database doesn't mean one knows networking well in the same way they probably don't know cpu logic gate design well.

You don't need to know all the details, but I think you should understand the basic network concepts way before starting your first job as a developer

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Zephyr sh.itjust.works Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-06-11
#37 · Quote Reply

You don't need to know all the details, but I think you should understand the basic network concepts way before starting your first job as a developer

At least TCP/IP, DNS, and similar things, yeah. Maybe not so much the intricate details of the wifi6 or Bluetooth protocols.

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JLock17 lemmy.world JLock17@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#38 · Quote Reply

The worst part is when you do finally understand the protocols and standards, you still have to follow different procedures depending on where you work.

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Hoimo ani.social Hoimo@ani.social
Joined: 2023-09-11
#39 · Quote Reply

I can’t tell you the number of devs I’ve met that know jack shit about infrastructure and networking. Even simple questions like understanding their subnet or how a load balancer works.

Yeah, but why is CIDR notation like that? You put a bigger number at the end and your subnet becomes smaller? Why would you want that?

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birdwing lemmy.blahaj.zone birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-08-19
#40 · Quote Reply

ngl this got me wondering what kinda jobs are fairly easy to enter (not too difficult or not too few availability), have good job prospects (salary, labour terms and conditions)... like how do i even learn how to do front/backend, etc., if i am bad at math?

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ramble81 lemmy.zip ramble81@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-08
#41 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yeah, but why is CIDR notation like that? You put a bigger number at the end and your subnet becomes smaller? Why would you want that?

When you translate it out it bits it’s the number of bits that are active in the net mask

0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 is a /0

1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 0000 0000 is a /24

1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1100 0000 is a /26

And since it’s used for matching, it follows how many there are.

Edit: typed that quickly, but to expand it further, take a /24 subnet, that is 255.255.255.0, if you look above each group of 8-bits can cover 0-255, so you in essence by having 24 bits turned on that’s what you want for an exact match. You’re basically saying “the first three octets need to exactly match”

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B0rax feddit.org B0rax@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-22
#42 · (edited) Quote Reply

ngl this got me wondering what kinda jobs are fairly easy to enter (not too difficult or not too few availability), have good job prospects (salary, labour terms and conditions)... like how do i even learn how to do front/backend, etc., if i am bad at math?

You don’t need math at all.

How to learn it? Think of a project you would like to tackle, and just start on your pc. Ask ChatGPT for a starting point

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birdwing lemmy.blahaj.zone birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-08-19
#43 · (edited) Quote Reply

You don’t need math at all. How to learn it? Think of a project you would like to tackle, and just start on your pc. Ask ChatGPT for a starting point

Bugger off, i'm not going to use aislop. blocked

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festnt sh.itjust.works festnt@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-04-18
#44 · Quote Reply

Bugger off, i'm not going to use aislop. blocked

then follow youtube tutorials

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B0rax feddit.org B0rax@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-22
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Bugger off, i'm not going to use aislop. blocked

Well thanks to you too for that constructive comment…

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lonesomeCat lemmy.ml lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-01-07
#46 · Quote Reply

Well thanks to you too for that constructive comment…

They got a point, the amount of bs I have to deal with because of people using slop is unbearable.

Please don't be a part of encouraging this kind of LLM applications

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yermaw sh.itjust.works yermaw@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-07-10
#47 · Quote Reply

To anyone feeling like this, nobody understands fully how computers work. You find your niche and you do your bit.

I don't think there's anyone alive who understands it all.

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B0rax feddit.org B0rax@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-22
#48 · Quote Reply

They got a point, the amount of bs I have to deal with because of people using slop is unbearable. Please don't be a part of encouraging this kind of LLM applications

I said to use it as a starting point, not to solve all issues.

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funkless_eck sh.itjust.works funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-07
#49 · (edited) Quote Reply

ngl this got me wondering what kinda jobs are fairly easy to enter (not too difficult or not too few availability), have good job prospects (salary, labour terms and conditions)... like how do i even learn how to do front/backend, etc., if i am bad at math?

I am not a professional but coding is more holding logic paths in your mind and translating large concepts into bite-sized steps.

In my (extremely amateur) solo dev project this weekend - a card game, I needed a trap that's invisible to opponents but visible to the player.

So we create an (invisible) control node with an (optionally visible) animated node with a text label that inherits the visibility of the immediately parent.

Then the top level node needs a "when I give you a place to be, animate appearing then animate moving to that place function" and it needs to respond to the card_played signal, and it needs to check the logic to see if that's the time to trigger, and if so which functions it needs to activate (the board, the "umpire" node, the opponent hand) in which order, then call the dialogue system to display dialogue, then query the dialogue database for which message to show, in which language (currently only English) which in itself has a controller that forces the order of animations and turns on/off clicks to various functions while this function resolves...

The only math involved is "how fast should the node move" and "if this trap blocks face cards, then block anything with a card value over 10" (jack queen king)

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#50 · (edited) Quote Reply

You don't what to know how the internet works.

It's boring and it's complex and it's fragile and basically dependent on corporations and nations being nice to each other.

Much more exciting to agonize about your self hosted DNS server.

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#51 · (edited) Quote Reply

To anyone feeling like this, nobody understands fully how computers work. You find your niche and you do your bit. I don't think there's anyone alive who understands it all.

I mean the basic principles are very simple.

It's the scaling and the speed of it all that you can't really understanding. Also all the hackneyed unoptimized solutions that hold it all together that we're totally dependent on to this day.

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