PieFed is mainly developed by someone that hates communists to the point of regurgitating far-right conspiracy theories baked in racism. There aren't really any communist shills for PieFed that I've seen. Communists aren't a monolith, but PieFed has its social credit score system because it's run by right-wingers.

I can’t care about everything to the fullest degree or be informed about everything because no one has that energy

I know people who work all the time and have energy. You have probably a mixture of privilege and exhaustion. We're talking about scanning some barcodes so you can help avoid preventing fellow human beings, including children, from being massacred.

For example I could ask you the same regarding veganism

I am a vegan lol

Oh, yeah, "They removed my comment where I'm just an asshole and telling people to kill themselves, they are such zionists 😭"

The fuck is wrong with you guys?

defecation

Unintentionally accurate typo

"Rules are important! I’m a good German, I follow the rules." -German soldier in the 1940s

lemmy.ml has multiple posts today about how everyone who disagrees with them is nazi or pedophiles.

such 'open-minded' types they are.

Reset your biases first. Meditate. Rebase.

yeah it sucks. it sucks balls.

i have to deal with it IRL. It lead to me quitting some things I used to love doing because I was so sick of psychos telling me if I am not a extremist leftist who is angry and outraged 24/7 I must be a fascist/zionist/pro-genocide/anti trans/bigot/blah blah blah.

Yeah, the good old "You are a Nazi for following rules"-thing. Because everyone who follows rules does so indly, except for oneself.

My favorite part is pointing out that most israelis are not white westerners, but from other middle eastern countries who were fleeing persecution in those countries and are more arab than western in terms of ethnicity and history.

But that doesn't fit the nice narrative that all Israelis are white colonlizer/invaders from europe or something. Literally never had it acknowledged once, just denied and told that it is zionist propaganda.

This thread even 18 hrs later:

One may well ask: “How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?” The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that “an unjust law is no law at all.”

• Martin Luther King Jr. in Birmingham Jail 1963

How would you categorize the community rules "Be nice to each other", "Don't insult each other" and "Don't call for violence"? Just or unjust, dair or unfair, sensible or dumb, expedient or not?

How would you categorize the feddit.org admin using a snark comm to get people to send DM harrassment to users who upvoted the feddit.org defederation thread?

is that 'being nice'?

Agreed. A bunch of general purpose instances with slight variations on ideology that are pretty much identical.

Why the whataboutism? Please answer my question and do not answer with whataboutism or the discussion is over.

you started the whataboutism with 'what about the community rules"

please answer my question and do not answer with whataboutism or the discussion is over.

Are you talking about this one? 🤔

Link to the post

Edit: and this one apparently:

Link to the post

Poor nazi and billionaire-pedofiles, how dare users post this.

When I was new to Lemmy, I wanted to get memes, and the migration tool suggested the memes on lemmy.ml. It didn't take long before my first comment disagreeing with some tankie over USSR and chinese communism got removed for "Civility". It was a normal, non-insulting comment in expectance of a normal conversation.
You cannot criticise China's treatment of the Uyghurs without getting your comments removed and almost everyone with a .ml-account I've encountered denied the crimes and genocides of USSR, the Russian Federation and China, and this denial is enforced by mods and admins.
I'm really wondering what db0-admins think about defeserating lemmy.ml though.

you sound charming, I hope you stay away from those things for everyone else's sake

Wrong. I criticised the db0-governance post for delivering supposed evidence for feddit.org-admins' supposed zionism that actually only were evidence for db0-users behaving like assholes.

And since you can only deflect and not actually argue, this discussion is over. In case you wonder why I won't answer furher comments by you, I can't see them anymore since I place you on my blocklist. People like you are the reason I'm really considering placing lemmy.ml as an instance on that list. Well done.

In no way shape or form Ukraine is a genocide. By using that term for both Palestine and Ukraine you are just demeaning the word, and actually helping the propaganda against Palestine.

Ukraine is defending its sovereignty, and it is experiencing a national aggression by Russia, but what Israel is doing to Gaza is in a different sphere.

One might think so because the image is https://hexbear.net/PPB, but the person was responding to defenders of Zionism. So a Hexbear-hating Zionist seems more likely.

Bye, your contributions to the conversation won't be missed

I don't see how it's bad faith to call an instance that has taken a stance in favor of a genocide "genocide apologist. They are doing genocide apologia. If you aren't a genocide apologist, you should leave the genocide apologist instance, same as leaving the nazi bar if you aren't a nazi.

"Rules are important! I’m a good German, I follow the rules." -German soldier in the 1940s

Zionists are not on the left

Death to America

It has created some funny interactions, the best part is that it still has one more day left in the all/active tab

Meanwhile Zionists perpetuate real violence on real people by the hundreds of thousands. God forbid people online be mad at them.

So the person who believes Soviet documentation, will turn around and not believe Ukrainian documentation. How convenient this makes your genocide denial.

You even mention the site showing where you can browse the tens of thousands of missing Ukrainian children, and see the ones who have been returned. You can go find testimonials from those returned children, but still you believe Russian war time propaganda over that.

The utter arrogance and hate to call these unjustified claims when they are backed up by evidence is astounding, but one should expect no less from someone so ideologically driven to manipulate and distort to fit their narrative.

Yeah add me to that list too. I don't like talking to fascists.

The German government is sending 30% the weapons to mass murder Palestinians in a concentration camp. This denial of full German government support for genocide is why nobody takes Germans seriously when they claim to care about the Holocaust. Take a long hard look at this image and see what you can take away from it

And there it is the Zionist blood libel against Palestinians and repeat of genocide propaganda.

People like them have nothing to offer but deflection and whataboutisms. Blocking them allows the propaganda to spread and influence others uncontested. Best method is to downvote their posts but don't engage with them, they feed off of the attention they get.

But you don't understand Putin is fighting NATO, he's a hero! Who cares about the dead Ukranians, they deserve it for not wanting to be conquered by imperialist Russia.

No. The majority of Israelis are Ashkenazi Jews from Europe. They are European settler-colonists on occupied land.

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelis#Jews
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews
• https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/most-ashkenazi-jews-are-genetically-europeans-surprising-study-finds-8c11358210
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism_as_settler_colonialism

Edit to add: I took a peak at your modlog; it’s filled with fascist brainworms.

What Russia is doing:

Tens of thousands of children are being abducted, stripped of their identity, and taught to hate their homeland
https://thewalrus.ca/ukrainian-children/

Definition of Genocide:

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

That isn't how I'm seeing any of this.

And what does that have to do with people removing peoples posts calling for more violence?

Antisemitic clearly means anti-Jewish. Sure it technically means all Semitic people, and as such a better word could have been used so long ago, but it's intended and in use meaning today is very clearly defined. Jewish people have been some of the biggest victims of Middle Eastern and European hate for thousands of years.

You're doing the #AllLivesMatter of religious hate.

You mean the outdated charter that has since been replaced to clarify opposition to the settler colonial state, rather than Jews as a whole?

So many comments jesus. I ain't reading all that. Free Palestine and Death to Israel.

they issue is that the lemmy.ml is the lemmy devs instance... and the devs are tankies themselves.

A lot of people don't use lemmy specifically because of the devs politics. and are on other platforms like piefed.

Personally I don't condemn products because of the actions/beliefs of their creators, former or present. I don't practice guilt/shame by association and I think doing so is incredibly toxic behavior. But I'm zionist scum for owning a Soda Stream anyway or something. Probably also for the fact I socialize/date jewish people and israelis regularly in my life.

It's not weird, its' just that this is how cowards and aspiring despots deal with things. You don't address them, or let them be seen/heard, you silence them or shut them out. You certainly don't allow dialogue that might allow for understanding... we can't have that.

Ironically one of the biggest draws for me, to reddit in the early days, and in the fediverse two years ago, was the notion that people can have differenting opinions and exchange them with civility and learn from each other. But I'm a big gay cishet transexual anti-zionist nazi pedo fascist centrist idiot, or so lemmy.ml users has been telling me the past few months.

Ain't much difference between MAGA and tankies.

Oooh, they downvoted you with both of their accounts.

If we don't allow Nazis because they are hateful and violent, why should we allow hateful and violent communists/socialists/anarchists?

Is it the hate and violence we should ban? Why is a Nazi calling to kill non-whites radically worse than a communist calling for the death of non-communists? Both simple think violence and hate is perfectly justified over differences, real or perceived.

And some of us libtard facists think the idea of killing people over any differences, is what is stupid and wrong, no matter what your identity, ideology or belief.

And Death to Germany!

We shouldn't allow people defending morally wrong stuffs that goes to all the ideological spectrum.Now answer the question would you allow supremacist and genocidal ideologies in the platforms you use?