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Kill Slave Owners.

Murder Slave Owner.

Absolutely turbo murder kill slave owners in real life no cap.

Explains why they think lemmy is more ban happy than reddit. It certainly is, for genocide bothsiders.

Longer answer: Lemmy was originally founded by a bunch of Marxist-Leninists and socialists of similar stripes (that’s what the .ml stands for)

Technically .ml stands for Mali, and was chosen because the domain is cheap. Ended up being a bit of a funny coincedence.

To be fair, Lemmy.ml is the dev instance, and Lemmy was made very specifically to not have the problems Reddit has.

No, you misunderstand. I was arguing against a Zionist.

I was trying to debunk someone pro-Israeli, so...

Both sidesing genocide is still bad even if you are "debunking" hard-line pro genociders. If your position is anything short of Israel shouldn't exist it's liberal Zionism. You should have nothing but support for the liberation movements of oppressed nations even if they don't fit your pr standard.

Sure. Please explain that to whichever mod is the Zionist. Maybe I'll actually speak out against it again, then.

I checked the modlog and you were very much banned for concern trolling about "Israelis being victims" while Gaza was getting flattened. You had another gem just before that where you fantasize about re-educating "brown folk".

I mean, it's intended to be an insult because the implication is that Reddit sucks.

I personally never understood the "Redditor" insults.

Reddit is just a forum directory with an infinite feed. You can find cringey weirdos but there's also subreddits for potted plants, chess, home improvement, etc. which are pretty mundane and low drama.

I left Reddit for similar reasons, but I still use it sometimes for troubleshooting and advice in the IT/Programming space.

is he a pedo scientist tankie?

Yea i know and that’s valid. But look at the downvotes for the truth

Mainly becauae Lemmy.ml users are tired of Lemmy.ml complaints, I would guess.

You should have told them Hamas is awesome

Conservative/right-wing views have absolutely nothing to do with it in my books.

This is a smaller community with seemingly slightly more accountability, or at a minimum, decency and respect for our fellow humans and internet citizens. The majority of the animals on reddit because behave like 10 year olds in a COD lobby - hiding behind internet anonymity to act like complete assholes, and be as rude and disrespectful as they possibly can, because they believe there will be no consequences.

When I see someone behaving like that, seemingly unable to carry on a civil conversation, I do not hesitate to suggest that they go back to Reddit if they're going to behave like those people. We do NOT want this community to devolve to that level. It is not a serious suggestion that they return there - it's more so an invitation to examine their behavior, and maybe take a step back, and look at this community overall vs. that community overall, and give some consideration to maybe behaving like a mature adult instead. Spelling it out that way when dealing with those kinds of people typically just encourages them to double down though, so it gets wrapped up in that little retort instead.

He was a Democrat

I'm very anti-Zionist, the other guy wasn't. 'nuff said.

I'd go through yours for things to misquote, but you're a month-old sockpuppet.

Lmao typical crackkker straight to badjacketing when you get caught out in your lies. 🤣 👉

Speaking as a punk, it's about keeping a community a healthy, welcoming place for the 99% of people who aren't assholes. There's a reason why we say 'Nazi punks fuck off.' It's not just a slogan or part of a song, it's a declaration that this house will not be used as a gathering place for people who want to tear it down.

whenever a person disagrees strongly or expresses conservative/right wing views

That makes sense. Usually the people who get mad when someone isn't loyal to their cause is unhinged with delusions of grandeur.

The Fediverse is for everyone.

"Agree with me or leave."

No..... cf "paradox of tolerance"

"Nazi opinions are just as valid as everyone else's"

No. All Nazis should be shot.

You people like crying "nazi!" every time someone disagrees with you on a political issue so you can silence them.

What about it? People disagreeing with you doesn't mean they aren't tolerating you. They would need to ban/censor you in order for that to happen.

The statement you replied to was specifically about Nazi punks a well documented issue? Are you fucking illiterate?

Who's you people ?

People disagreeing with you

That's not what OP was on about. They were talking about nazism. That's not a differing opinion, a valid stance, or something to even remotely consider. Nazis aren't "people disagreeing with you"

You would have a point if people didn't call their opponents nazis on these forums just to get them censored.

The problem is that people like you will lie about who is a nazi in order to silence them. This, in turn, devolves into a culture of "agree with me or leave."

Are you fucking illiterate?

Lol, irony.

Who is people like me? Non whites? Who have I called a nazi? You replied to a post about nazi punks (a hyper well documented phenomenon) and how punks have to make it clear they are not welcome much like bars to avoid becoming nazi bars. What is your point? Nazis should be welcome? Because your spiel about mislabeling isn't relevant.

Not sure what you said, your last word was censored. In any case, you're off-topic. Read from the top.

Because your spiel about mislabeling isn’t relevant.

Except it is. If people didn't regularly do what I'm accusing them of, then you'd have a point.

So what's your solution? Just accept all the Nazis for fear of it really being a mistake? That's how you get a nazi bar.

No, I'm right on topic.

Saying "nazis aren't welcome" is akin to "agree with me or leave" in an environment where people call their opposition nazis just to have them censored.

This is that environment.

Solution to what? I said his stance amounts to agree with him or leave and explained why.

A better question would be, what's your problem?

Then you rule them out on those basis, not their general 'right wing' classification.

Include everyone, but exclude specific content.

The 'go away' or 'go back' BS is exclusive, not inclusive, and should be moderated similarly to bigotry.

You are taking all this time to run defense about how it's actually bad to force Nazis out of spaces like the punk scene because some of them might just be mislabeled. I assumed if you were going to talk shit you'd at least have a solution? If it's bad to force Nazis out of spaces then should they be allowed in all spaces or did you perhaps receive a divine revelation about how it's actually possible to beat them in the marketplace of ideas or some such nonsense?

I made a 1-line comment and you people came out of the woodwork trying to make a defense.

I'm not saying it's bad to force nazis out of spaces. My point is: Saying “nazis aren’t welcome” is akin to “agree with me or leave” in an environment where people call their opposition nazis just to have them censored. This is that environment.

It's fine if you misunderstood what I said or why I said it. Hopefully I was able to clear things up.

It was just a fairly tone deaf reply given the topic. It comes off very much like the standard nazi defense when they get called out on dog whistles. Maybe that wasn't your intention but I'm sure if you read them again you can see how it gives that impression.

'You people' is typically defined by the attached action. 'You people' are the people who actually do that thing, whatever it is.

If you don't do it, 'you people' is not you.

If you do do it, 'you people' is you.

The point is not about 'who', it's an oppositional statement about the 'what', the action, and implies it's bad, or more importantly that the speaker doesn't approve.

Like: 'You people, always with the child raping.'

If you don't rape children, 'you people' isn't you.

But also, the speaker is implying that child raping is bad, or something they don't approve of, and something they don't do.

It's funny watching this argument.

I'm from a very hippy community.

I'm a collectivist.

I'm extremely far left & progressive.

I'm wholly anti-fascist.

I'm also 100% in agreement with you regarding including differing opinions regardless of how extreme.

Inclusivity only brodens the divide and limits opportunities for people who harbor extremist views to be influenced toward developing more balanced, functional, and beneficial perspectives.

Moderation can be used to soften their influences in our commuty while including them allows our community to influence them.

I see. It makes more sense this way, cheers

The way it read initially was that anyone using the word nazi did so as a silencing manoeuvre. "You people" sounds derogatory to me, I don't like it. It lumps people together and waves away individuality.

If you want to invite them to reexamine their behavior... Actually do that, not the other more aggressive, offensive, and immature thing... Then play it off as something more.

'fuck you!'

'fuck me?'

'no, no, that's not what I meant!'

Just say what you actually meant!

Essentially what it read like, thank you for finding the proper words

Shouldn't 'tell them off' at all either.

Teach to the problem. Or moderate it.

Allow the person to continue coexisting.

Anecdotal story and all but I feel this encapsulates why most people support kicking Nazis out even if they seem polite to start.

Define right wing because the last time I used that insult, it was against users spamming DNC propaganda lol

You know, I kinda don't give a shit if I upset someone who thinks some people don't deserve the same basic rights they have...

TIL, I thought it was intentional from the start.