Massive side-eye for anyone referring to women/girls as "females"....

"Men's bathrooms"

"Female toilets"

In one of my regular dive bars, the ladies’ toilets were so filthy on a regular basis that all the women ended up using the men’s toilets.

women will literally spin on their head projectile shitting in all directions

Let’s just add some menstrual hwite

None of your business. If a toilet identifies as female, it's a female toilet, end of story.

Used to clean the bathrooms in a restaurant, 9/10 times the men's bathroom is cleaner. Guys go in and pee at a urinal at public restrooms and then leave, there is very little opportunity for them to mess shit up.

Anyone who has actually had to clean public bathrooms knows that mens restrooms are usually cleaner than women's.

That said, women's restrooms might have dispensers for hygiene products that occasionally get restocked. Not often enough to be reliable but often enough to give you hope.

Most people uses public restrooms for number 1 rather than number 2. Most can hold a number 2 til they get home. People with penises can stand up to pee and can use urinals. Vagina havers need to sit down, unless they have a special tool, and feel the need to hover over the seat to avoid getting cuties or something. This alone is enough of a difference to cause more filth to accumulate. Even if the only thing going on in the restrooms were people going number 1 they "ladies" room is predisposed to getting filthier.

I actually started refusing to clean the women's bathroom when I worked retail. It was always nasty as fuck when I had to deal with it.

The proverbial straw was when I went in and found a red Picasso on the white tile wall, and you know those little mailboxes with bags in them so women can dispose of their sanitary products and not have to flush them or hold them untik they get to the trash can? At least 10 total products from tampons to pads were stacked on top of the little mailbox, and the handicap stall had an avalanche. The trash can was also overflowing so either we had a lot more women using the bathroom than normal, or nobody had emptied the trash the night before.

For me it used to be a holdover from military service.

No idea why but everyone on base used "male/female" instead of men/women.

I can only think of a Ferengi from star trek whenever I hear "female" and when my spouse and I hear it I always look at them and do that hand thing where they tap their fingers together.

Never seen that, but I have seen what I would say was a woman who had to have had explosive diarrhea, who then simply touched her toes in the bathroom, thus spraying it everywhere behind herself.

Outlined the toilet and everything!

Male/female is only weird if you make it weird. Female is easier to type and say than "women/girls". People have imposed this interesting dynamic about how men look at women or talk about women (and girl childs) that sometimes female might be the best word in some context. It's not some obscure word, it's commonly understood. Just let it go and don't feed into the weirdness.

"Happy little accident"

Side eying you now

It depends on the location, which might be a statement on clientele and traffic in a given bathroom.

When I worked at a bar, the men's room was worse but when I worked retail the women's room was worse.

It's volume more than a gender.

No idea why but everyone on base used "male/female" instead of men/women.

Maybe to imply that there are no men or women (gender constructs) on base? As in there are soldiers with penises, and soldiers with vaginas, but they're all just soldiers. Idk, just a guess.

I don't care I guess? I know what I'm about.

Just kind of pointing out that the propagation of ideas that look down on people for using inoffensive words doesn't really help anything. I'm not perfect and would never claim to be, but male and female are words that have been around and used my entire life inoffensively. I occasionally use the word female and I even feel weird about it afterwards because of this strange association, and then I feel mildly annoyed that I even think about it. For what it's worth, I will even occasionally use the word male to describe a male

I definitely get the pointing out of using the word female to describe women by misogynists and incels, but I wouldn't have even thought of the word being used in that manner when I read this post which is why I even commented on it in the first place.

"I, a man, publicly say here that I am one most dirty and unmannered being who will use public restrooms and leave them in such an awful state that I'll never make my daughter use them."

This man.

not just public toilets either, i had an office job where they held monthly team meetings and every time it got to any other business someone would declare the women's to be a 'total disgrace' or similar description

It's pretty simple. Male/female are adjectives and man/woman are nouns. Referring to a person as an adjective that describes them is generally not a great look because it reduces the person to that one characteristic about them.

[Correct] Women who go shopping are female shoppers.

[Incorrect] Females who go shopping are woman shoppers.

It can be an honest mistake, but it's used deliberately enough to warrant the side-eye, especially when people stand up to defend it. Some people do get a little weird about ANY usage of the word female, correct or not, but this is not one of those scenarios.

Part of my job in my college cafeteria was cleaning the employee bathrooms. The women's bathroom was always the worst, by far.

ideas that look down on people for using inoffensive words doesn't really help anything.

I think the point is that you as an individual do not get to decide what is and isn't an offensive word. No word is inherently offensive, it's the historical and social context that creates the negativity.

but male and female are words that have been around and used my entire life inoffensively

Have ever talked to a person older than 65 about the N word, because I've heard people make the same exact claim.

I even feel weird about it afterwards because of this strange association, and then I feel mildly annoyed that I even think about it.

Wow..... You are so close to emotionally evolving into a better more empathetic person.

but I wouldn't have even thought of the word being used in that manner when I read this post which is why I even commented on it in the first place.

Because you haven't ever been objectified and demeaned because of your gender. That is the privilege of being a dude, we are not inherently judged as lesser than solely for our reproductive organs. If it had happened to you a bunch in the past you might be a little more sensitive to it.

To add to that, they are adjectives that can strip away someone's humanity. Animals are described as male and female, for example "that's a female rat". While humans can be described with noun adjuncts like "they are a human woman".

Imo female and male should only really be utilized in a medical or scientific description.

Bob always told me that the horrible things he did with tampons were just between me and him. :/

Well okay. I guess this is pretty emotionally charged for a bunch of people and I apologize to all of you. I do think that comparing the word female to the "n word" is excessively overdramatic. And the word female is still not offensive to the general population no matter what you or I may think. It's apparently offensive to social justice warriors like yourself (thank you for the downvotes I guess) and hey that's okay because I'm not one to judge even if I do ultimately judge. What you think about me doesn't matter I still know what person I am. And hey I am over 50 so I know what that n word usage was like; I'll tell you right now it was offensive then and it has remained offensive.

Perhaps you should reprioritize some things in your psyche if you think that the word female is in any way on par with the n-word.

You are correct. I don't know what it's like to be a woman nor to be objectified cuz to be candid I'm pretty average and there aren't many people that are going to objectify me. But I'll continue to think you and people like you are part of the problem by giving weight to the idea that this is an offensive word.

Peace out my brother or sister whether you're male or female, binary or undecided. I'm sure I didn't change your mind and I'm sure you didn't change my mind.

Edit: also I feel like you're kind of a dick lul

I was a manager for D&B. We had a dedicated woman's lavatory sanitizer for busy weekends. I have never ever needed a men's equivalent.

JFC!

I do think that comparing the word female to the "n word" is excessively overdramatic. And the word female is still not offensive to the general population no matter what you or I may think.

My point wasn't trying to make you feel like you said the N word, just to give you an example of how the use of words evolve over time. 50-60 years ago the N word was not offensive to the general public, it was just how most white people described black people. However, partly due to the civil rights movement and how people of color fought to humanize themselves in the eyes of others, the word became more vitriolic.

It's apparently offensive to social justice warriors like yourself (thank you for the downvotes I guess) and hey that's okay because I'm not one to judge even if I do ultimately judge.

Lol, I would hardly call myself a social justice warrior because I empathize with the feelings of half of the human race. It's just called being polite.

What you think about me doesn't matter I still know what person I am

I'm sure most bigots think the same exact thing.

over 50 so I know what that n word usage was like; I'll tell you right now it was offensive then and it has remained offensive.

Again, I'm talking about the usage before the civil rights, which was still before your time.

psyche if you think that the word female is in any way on par with the n-word.

I can tell you have issues with your reading comprehension, might want to get that figured out old man.

people like you are part of the problem by giving weight to the idea that this is an offensive word.

It's the people being offended who are to blame, not me the simple bigot!

I didn't change your mind and I'm sure you didn't change my mind.

Yeah, old dog, new tricks.....

I feel like you're kind of a dick lul

And I feel you have severely divorced sad man energy. Have fun not being on speaking terms with your family.

Many moons ago I worked for Office Depot. We were all on a rotation for cleaning the bathrooms because apparently that corporation doesn't have the money for a janitorial service.

I can confirm the men's and women's bathrooms could get equally toxic.

I've seen used pads stuck to the wall. People are nasty.

I couldnt tell you how many bathrooms Ive cleaned across various jobs, at literally every level of economic strata in modern society, and the women’s bathrooms were nastier than the men’s at least 95% of the time.

There was often more pee on women’s toilet seats than on the ones in the men’s room. Men’s rooms usually have urinals taking most of the piss. There is a large contingent of women that apparently hover over the toilet and let fly. Although I guess logically if they think everyone else pisses like a broken fire hydrant then I can see why they wouldnt want to sit on the seat

I was a cleaner years ago. Bar bathrooms are... interesting. I have cleaned shit from the urinals in mens bathroom. Also I have cleaned womens bathrooms where a big beer glass was stuffed with toiletpaper, then the whole thing stuck into the toilet bowl, and then someone shit on top of it... Both genders public bathrooms are nasty.

If all the nice people are saying women and all the disgusting people are saying females, that makes it easy for me to choose what to say.

Please, please, please! As a person born in the US, treat public spaces with respect. Just because you don’t have to clean it, doesn’t mean you have to destroy it.

Unless you are also using males don't use the word females (and vice versa). That is what I would recommend to not seem too disrespectful, even then be careful to avoid being dehumanizing.

I personally tend to use variations of (fe)male identifying people. But I rarely talk about people of the same gender at all ages. That seems like something that isn't that common though. If that is your justification for using the words females/males just be sure not to use it in other contexts.

I dunno. My own anecdotal observations are that I've used both and the women's has been cleaner most of the time.

Youre protesting way too much. Like its your life's goal to call women female. Its just sus.

Hope no one ever slips up and calls you a homosaipan.

And how would that dehumanize me?

Animals are called by their species.

You having to ask proved my point, though.

Couldn't have worked more perfectly.

Animals are called by their species.

No shit......When did I ever claim it was dehumanizing to be called a homosapien?

I specifically said that when utilizing scientific language it's appropriate to say something like homosapien females.

I like that "I am his dad" is enough to justify making tradeoffs in their name, and that the tradeoff goes "have allegedly cleaner bathrooms at the cost of being sad for the rest of your life."

Between Bob Ross with a tampon and Jackson Poo-llock, I do not miss 3rd shift janitorial.

Putty knife, strong emesis control, and the will to endure are needed. Drugs helped too.

Refusing to understand isnt the same as being right.

Being incoherent isn't the same as having a valid opinion.

Exactly, now youre getting it.

Well, I'm glad we can both agree you're being a babbling fool.

Just when you started making sense you decide to revert to a child again. Oh well, never much liked you anyway.

To think, youre the one warning of being insensitive to people. Laughing.