Yeah, I'm currently trying to get SJW to adopt it :)

What's a tankie?

Of course they could. They would totally ruin their credibility but they've already done that it seems. They shut off their instance and redirect it to a cartoon picture telling people to go away.

I'm not saying this because I'm on that user list (fucking lol)

It's good company, and I don't just say that because I'm on that user list. But yeah, fuck asimons04.

Asimons04

Otherwise known as AdmiralPatrick here on lemmy.

wipe PCs that were in Russia or Belarus.

What a no-effort adult* tantrum. Were they hoping to somehow strike it lucky and wipe govt rigs? Nevermind the innumerable civie casualties along the way? Fuckin' chud. 🤮

*being generous, I know.

Only the derpiest of wannabes need apply. 🤢

Can you imagine what we'd be dealing with if they were actually competent? 🙆🏼‍♂️

If his thing was unique and not a widely-applicable trope, I wouldn't be surprised. Fun fact, the guy @ Emerald City Comics in Eugene, OR is the comic book guy from The Simpson's —that, I can attest personally. It's uncanny, from the look to the voice to the demeanor. It was like walking onto the set. 🤓😵‍💫

edit: I just tried to look it up, and it's apparently gone. It's been ~20yrs since I visited, so that tracks. Maybe Nostalgia Comics is the new face, but I've no idea if he still runs/works it.

Lol. I'm on lemmy.ml because I thought it meant .machine-learning. I just thought it sounded cool. So my content would get banned

Well at least open source coding makes it so this is easier to spot and the community can choose better going forward. The beauty of descentralized social media

Ye nobody would trust a proprietary one previcely for this reason

Just realised I didn't thank you, so thank you

I thought Admiral Patrick """left""" lemmy more than a year ago?

I think a bit of a problem with the fediverse might be that the majority of instance admins are just barely competent enough with development that if they get upset with how other admins run their shit, they end up forking some piece of the project in order to put their thumb on the scale and bend the network to better fit their worldview.

This bullshit is starting to feel like a bit of a pattern.

Unfortunately that piece of shit didn't even get fired or cast out of the open source community, let alone get sent to prison for that.
And yes as an American he could get sent to prison for that because he also effected American military systems in the region.

It means marxist-lenninist I believe. Kinda funny.

The Wikipedia introduction is quite accurate for the kind of people you may find on those instances, especially the bottom of the introduction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

aw man blobs in oss? why is there no scanner for that?

Nope only did an announcement but nothing else changed

It’s Mali.

Haha, what a small pathetic man.

I'm not asking about the instances, I'm asking about the word. The wiki doesn't really help:

Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof.

Okay, so an insulting way to refer to an authoritarian communist. What makes them authoritarian? I see this word being used by people who support the police. Are the police (as an institution) not authoritarian? So what does authoritarian mean?

More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It has a history of being used by some anti-authoritarian leftists, anarchists, democratic socialists, and reformists to denounce Stalinism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.[5][4]

Okay, so only Marxist–Leninist or Stalinists?

The term "tankie" was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defence of the Soviet use of tanks to suppress the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.[6][7]

Okay, so ML or Stalinists who are pro-soviet.

The term has been extended to describe people who endorse, defend, or deny the actions of communist leaders such as Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong. In recent times, the term has been used across the political spectrum and in a geopolitical context to accuse individuals of having a bias in favour of current anti-Western authoritarian states; Belarus, Cuba, China,[8][9] Iran,[10] Nicaragua, North Korea, Russia, and Venezuela serve as prevalent examples.

Uh...those are all very different.

Maybe it's easier for me to ask what's an acceptable communist?

If this wiki page doesn't help you understand the term tankie I don't think I can do better. It's basically people who support authoritarian communism including denying or supporting their crimes like the Tiananmen Square massacre and similar. As the last part explains, sometimes the relationship to Marxism gets lost as they focus on anti-Western or anti-American positions, such as defending Islamist Iran and other Islamist movements that share very little with Marxism and the left.

I don't know if it's possible, but I would guess democracy based communism with no human rights abuse. Maybe that's better called social democracy or democratic socialism.
For example, in Europe many former Soviet communism supporters lost their faith when they progressively learned about Stalinism crimes and founded what's called "Socialist" parties as opposed to "Communist" (ex: French or Spanish socialist parties). In English, they are usually called social democrats, close to people like Bernie Sanders, I think.

No prob!

Hey, don't make me give up my airmail.cc address! I don't know of anywhere else that lets you make a persistent address so easily at a domain that's still accepted by stuff.

Seriously if you know of anywhere else I'm all ears. The small chuckle I got out of the airmail.cc email domain ain't worth the association.

As someone who scripts shit for work, it's so damn frustrating seeing things that could be legitimately useful tools/features if they were done correctly and transparently ending up as this poorly designed shit that is intentionally misleading to end users.

For fucks sake, go ahead and go off with your personal opinions in like, the example template for an "auto-collapse/hide" feature. Just don't make it a hard coded default.

I recommend you to check the profiles of the creators of Lemmy which are also administrators of lemmy.ml. At least one of them has plenty of writings that make their ideology pretty clear.

I don't think you understood my response. The wiki doesn't help because there is no common thread between the groups listed, and they aren't all comunist. Like, iran? The article goes on to talk about modern russia. That's not communist either. The only thing I can find in common is that they are not "western".

I don't know if it's possible, but I would guess democracy based communism with no human rights abuse. Maybe that's better called social democracy or democratic socialism.

For example, in Europe many former Soviet communism supporters lost their faith when they progressively learned about Stalinism crimes and founded what's called "Socialist" parties as opposed to "Communist" (ex: French or Spanish socialist parties).

Socialism is such a broad term it's almost meaningless without qualifiers. Social democracy is also extremely different from democratic socialism. Social democracy wants to reform capitalism to reduce its harm whereas democratic socialists want a socialist society (i.e. no capitalism) but without the own party system and more democratic decision making.

Help me understand the term Tankie as anything other than an insult towards someone who thinks the capitalists and imperialists are bad, actually. Are their human rights abuses less horrific than any other?

The wiki doesn’t help because there is no common thread between the groups listed, and they aren’t all comunist. Like, iran? The article goes on to talk about modern russia. That’s not communist either. The only thing I can find in common is that they are not “western”.

I think it implies a sort of connection in this way:
Marxism -> opposition to capitalism -> opposition to countries championing capitalism such as the USA -> defending organizations who oppose USA -> defending Islamist organizations or current Russia.

I have observed those thoughts combined within instances that claim to be Marxist on Lemmy. Have you not?

I believe all human rights abuse are bad whatever the ideology or absence of it. But maybe it's even more depressing when it comes from an ideology base that claims to be in favor of the oppressed people. It's also most visible from the leftist side here, because far right instances are more unanimously ostracized. I never saw them in my feed personally, probably due to admins early filtering.

I have observed those thoughts combined within instances that claim to be Marxist on Lemmy. Have you not?

I would say I have observed the following from individual users:

Marxism -> opposition to capitalism -> opposition to countries championing capitalism such as the USA -> defending organizations who oppose USA -> defending Islamist organizations or current Russia.

I think the Hexbear code of conduct explains why I feel the last price is missing. I'll quote them instead of trying to paraphrase:

"Critical Support" means that while we may not agree with every policy of a country that is being targeted by the US Empire, we support them in their struggle to remain independent.

Being anti USA doesn't mean you are on board with all the opinions of all the other opponents or that you are defending them. Personally, I sure am hoping we are watching the collapse of Team America World Police as a result of their involvement in the middle east but that's where my opinion ends. I don't know anything about the groups opposing them apart from what I read in western media which is as good as useless, so the idea that I would defend them is pretty absurd. Defend them about what? To whom? (I'm also not ML btw so maybe I shouldn't be using myself as an example?). USA = bad does not mean another state is good. But I have found people assume that when I wish for the end of the US that I would support another authoritarian and/or imperialist regime in its place which is not accurate.

(Footnote: I'm assuming you don't mean all Islamic groups/nations when you said "Islamic organizations" but only the ones who are in opposition to the USA. )

Anyways, this has gotten very off topic. Your connection list was helpful in answering my question. Whether or not I think there are instances that meet this isn't really relevant.

He absolutely is. I have no clue why anyone would defend him at this point.

I'm just glad we could have a conversation about this without one calling the other fascist as it happens too often here.

Looks like they've deleted their repo for tesseract.

Probably for the best given their credibility as a FOSS dev is shot now anyway. But at least nobody else will unwittingly walk into their curated enforced bubble.

Nah, they just renamed their account https://github.com/paulo-roger/tesseract

Fair enough. I noticed that one from the fork you made. I just assumed that's where Patrick forked it from originally.

I also have an airmail.cc box and it's basically IP and/or domain blocked on lots of places. I think some mail was even quietly dropped. Sounds like it's too easy to sign up and since that's not the "industry standard" (thanks alphabet and microsoft) it's often blocked even by self-hostables.

Try riseup.net and autistici.org. Or maybe on of these dozens of servers (although little of them with a good privacy notice, unfortunately needed under capitalism). Or maybe sign up for a pubnix and use that thing's email, although the only one I found with a proper privacy policy was envs.net and I was banned for trying to prove a point.

Alternative: open up Tor Browser, get your super banned super forbidden email address (like maildrop.cc), then open a new tab, smash that F12 key, press the little phone/tablet icon on the right, then change the first selector to "iPhone SE", change "UA: " to Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 16_7_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/16.5 Mobile/15E148 DuckDuckGo/7 Safari/604, then go to duck.com/email (the .onion is broken due to bad csp lol), put your very illegal box there and get a very legal one back. You may ask, why Tor Browser. I say, to make DuckDuckGo shut up more easily about your brand new alias. You can just keep doing this, infinite legit email glitch. Just nobody tell anyone, sshhhhhhhhhh.

I love the still have the commited developer part in Readme after their development halted message

I believe you did not quite meet the acab quota, also few mentions of Bibi sitting on a grenade could boost your points to reach the fed blocklist

I don't think so, I like to sort things alphabetically so it's easier to read "manually"

More likely they privated their repo. Your fork is way ahead with this devs commits. I'd guess the dev made a fork of the paulo-roger repo when they stopped the development.

I think db0 blahaj made a fork with the list removed, thankfully.

Mine is ahead because that repo was at my level when I forked

Well yeah. The guy made a bunch of commits, you forked, they privated the repo. The repo you forked "no longer exists" so parent fork is reported. Nobody renamed their account, nobody transferred the repo.

I'm pretty sure his wasn't a fork. He hard forked from photon, so there's nobody he forked from calling it tesseract. This doesn't make sense

Isn't it still there? (I mean, here: https://github.com/asimons04/tesseract/)

I'm not on it, unfortunately.

Yeah looks like its back up. I'm guessing they made it private and had a change of heart. When I checked earlier, it would 404, and db0's fork now references the earlier fork in the chain rather than this one.

There wasn't an earlier fork. Either ap isn't telling the whole story of what they did with their repo (they also lost all their stars), or github is bugged somehow

I thought it was db0 who made the fork, he said so in the post above.

Oop thank you.

So the last commit on the apparent "original" paulo-roger/tesseract repo states abandonment of the project in 2023. However this commit, like every other in this repo, is authored by asimons04.

$ git log | grep asimons | wc -l 
651
$ git log | grep roger | wc -l
0

That seems pretty weird to me. I guess if they were added as a contributor at some point they could've force-pushed a rewritten history? Still doesn't make a lot of sense.

Edit: Maybe it's just paulo-roger who checked out asimons04's repo after they abandoned it and uploaded it to his profile as a fresh repo instead of forking, and somehow GitHub mistook it for the parent repo after as04 made their repo private/whatever happened?

My theory was something like:

• Repo A (paulo-roger) abandoned at 2023
• Repo B (asimons04) forked and worked from there
• Repo C (OP)

Now what happens if repo B is removed (privated)? We still have all the commit history form repo B, but no upstream to link to that history. We also have all the commit history form repo A, however the upstream is still public so it gets linked properly.

The fork chain is still the same A -> b -> C we just no longer see repo B on github. It doesn't mean that anything got moved, deleted or overwritten, just hidden.