They hike the prices through the roof and drop quality and it’s the consumers’ fault for not wanting to pay extra for crap

New Vegas is going Old Vegas.

Also, who would visit the U.S. right now?

They also changed the games to where it was even harder to win and the payout was less.

But business analysts said that bleeding their customers dry through predatory tactics was the most important thing to do!

That's fine, I'm sure billionaires will pick up the tab when all regular people clear out of the Strip.

Old (North) Vegas has always been better...

Like, it's still Vegas. But instead of the capitalism cranked up to 11, it's more like an average city level of exploitation.

I was let down the first time tho, because I was expecting some Uncle Eddie shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byfewcZsug4

And the fact that most of the support staff are scared to death of ice throwing them in a concentration camp.

As someone that loves gambling and always wanted to go to Vegas, I'd rather just go somewhere local if I wanna go to a casino. Vegas is as expensive as any other destination vacation (if not more expensive) but that's not why most people want to go there no matter how much they try to change their image. If you're not someone that likes gambling it's probably cheaper and more worthwhile to go to Disney Land. And if you're someone that likes gambling it's cheaper to go to literally any other casino in the country.

Canadians boycotting travel to the U.S. doesn't help, either.

Think of the shareholders!

It’s not solely local leisure spending. It’s tourism. Who wants to come to the United States now?

I’ve also been told there’s been a switch up in the way the machines work such that it’s just not fun any more.

Might qualify as a leopards eating face moment considering a narrow majority of Clark county voted for Trump :o

Nevada voted Trump. They gambled and lost. Time to learn the hard way.

I lived in Vegas for 5 years and absolutely loved it, but I almost never went anywhere near the strip unless friends or family were visiting. I spent a lot of time out at Red Rock Canyon hiking the trails.

They got what they voted for.

Vegas forgot the entire reason it was popular in the first place:

Because it was CHEAP. You could go to Vegas and get a nice hotel and go out every night for less than you could go anywhere else because they made their money on gaming instead of the accommodations.

During Covid they pivoted to trying to be a "destination" by ripping off everyone at every corner. The rooms are loaded down with fees, the food and drinks are ridiculously expensive.

The reason to go to Vegas was that a regular middle class person could FEEL like a rich person. That doesn't work when you are priced out of everything.

Exactly this. The attraction to Vegas used to be that it was cheap and you could go there and feel like a big shot. Without that there just isn't any reason to go. Its just a little town the middle of the desert, but now it costs more than Hawaii.

Also they turned the whole comp system from something that was a fun treat into what amounts to a grocery store rewards points scheme that isn't fun for anyone. So now instead of a pretty girl coming up to you and just handing you a free drink or some guy giving you a free breakfast because you are a big shot, you instead have what amounts to a subway sandwich punch card.

Looks at costs of a flight to Amsterdam. Looks at costs to domestic US.

Gee I wonder why.

you're not gonna convince me that the shows aren't cool.

I was similarly let down when I couldn't find that 5$ a plate all you can eat buffet.

There was a youtube video a few months back where a person who lived there and had several pro vegas videos outlined how the casinos had done it to themselves.

As a Nevada resident you can see this all over the state. The state voted Trump and it’s now gonna pay the price for it. I do feel bad for employees in the housekeeping and food service department. But I do know most of them also voted for trump including a friend of mine who drives taxi in Vegas and complains about everything being expensive. So in that case fuck them, but to the few good ones in the silver state, you have my respect.

lol, Vegas, shows, right buddy, is that where all the bodies on the desert came from? It’s called Sin City, not Sing City

I've only been once, but watching degenerate gamblers and young parents pushing strollers around a big mall drunk was just depressing. I got a vibe of Dollarama Epstein Island.

You know what 1000x better than The Venetian? Venice.

And winners are quickly banned. Why would anyone gamble and NOT card count?

Meh let the idiots idiot

I mean... Yea. But we also have a POTUS and cabinet that invite journalist to their signal groups accidentally. I guess I don't have issue with making a platform to bet on anything, I have issue on people with highly classified information betting on them, getting caught, and then zero consequences.

Probably, but I'm a purponent of you do you until it becomes my problem

Good talk. It's nice having a online conversation that doesn't turn into garbage. I think the Internet may have jaded me 😂

You can milk a cow many times, but you can only slaughter it once.

It's okay, the Dow is over 50k.

They want to cater to the 1%, they're only going to get traffic from the 1%

The problem is they are competing with the entire world then. The 1% would rather go to Macau.

Hmm yes. That's the only thing contributing to its visitor drop. Nothing else

This is how the rest of us feel about the US.

Don't Penn and Teller regularly perform in Las Vegas? I'm not a gambler, but I'd totally go to Vegas just to see those two.

Two major things that are hurting Vegas today

International visitors are down due to the orange moron.

Attendance at conventions and corporate meetings are down due to the above stupid decisions. It was a cheap place to hold a large meeting: flights, transit, hotels, meeting hall rental and food were all 30%+ less than anywhere else.

To expand on Vegas' woes, online gambling has exploded. Why bother driving several hours or take a plane to a desert city to play in several casinos when you can bet on a game or a bunch of outcomes by just using your phone?

Good.

Fuck vegas.

That's a great point to bring up.

I wonder why Vegas companies didn't push back against the legalization of online gambling like we saw alcohol and tobacco companies do with marijuana. Perhaps most of them already have their hand in that pie, which is why it's okay. Same thing with how tobacco companies stopped fighting legalization of weed once they became the dominant players.

Exactly. The top 10% of the US population is currently responsible for 50% of spending, which is propping up the economy. But places like Vegas don't cater to the top 10%. Oh sure, there are high-roller areas; but for the most part, Vegas caters to the lower-middle class. Shockingly, rich people don't like hanging around smokey casinos and a bunch of drunk gambling addicts. It's no surprise that it's suffering.

I've only been to Venice out of the two and I very much disliked Venice. So Vegas must be pretty bad.

I bet Amsterdam won't arrest you for shady Vance memes on your phone.