How is Nix with software support these days?

"Debian or Arch?"

I've gotta say, as a long time Apple hater, it is not bad these days, especially with their incredible hardware at the best value per dollar they've ever had. I use my Mac as much as possible at work when Windoes isn't absolutely required (I'm not allowed to use Linux)

Debian

Same here. Honestly, I think Apple has some of the best glass and graphical effects for devices. They make connectivity between devices super user friendly and fast.

I just wish MacOS wasn't a walled garden (I guess you call that linux then)

Yeah doing standard computer stuff is great, though the limitations start to hurt if it is a personal device. Some odd design decisions too like the Settings menu being unforgivably bad and unmaximizable for no reason, Finder being always open which messed with my OCD, a few other things. For hardware the prices for increased storage or RAM are highway robbery and can't be done yourself. Plus I'm pretty into open source and Linux is more customizable. That being said, Homebrew is pretty great these days, and Little Snitch or an open source equivalent does a good job of blocking telemetry so I could probably make it work if I had to.

There is another reply to this comment where I said I'm not using it. If you are interested in something specific why not just go type the package name into their repository search thingy?

https://search.nixos.org/packages

Yeah I get some good RPMs on my 2001 Honda Civic.

Something I've noticed is that, generally speaking, the fediverse doesn't seem to be very hateful. Rude, sure, but rarely badness for sufferings sake. Without the constant pressure to be hateful, it is hard for grudges to take hold. I think a big reason is that the demographics on here appear to lean older than most other social media. Again, speaking generally, individual user behavior and experience may vary.

Yup! Fedora for everything, and everything else for the lolz.

Elaborate.

Nothing else even comes close, except the AUR, but even that not really:

https://repology.org/repositories/graphs

That is very surprising, last I heard it had to catch up with having popular applications. Is this due to how package dependencies differ on Nix vs what people think of traditionally as packages?

Not really. (When was last time?)

The reason is more that the config language that you have to learn if you want to use NixOS is the exact same you use to package applications for NixOS.

So any user is also just a tiny, non-intimidating step away from being a contributor and package maintainer.

I know for myself, I never packaged for the AUR - just seemed way to intimidating and a lot of new stuff to figure out - but I maintain a bunch of packages and modules in nixpkgs, and they're all stuff that was "huh, this is cool but not packaged yet; alright, I'll package it in my private config; oh that was easy, let's upstream it".

Couldn't even tell you tbh.

Well that's pretty cool. I always liked the idea of being mega reproducible. I might try it on my home server instead of Debian.

I would answer debian, but I want her to say arch.

I want my girlfriend to be smarter than me ok!?

Awesome! Have fun. And I know I'm just an internet rando, but feel free to ask here/dm if you get stuck with something. The initial learning cliff definitely exists, but it's absolutely worth it!

Is this like asking if looking for a fling or a long term relationship?

I'm fine with .ebuild and .xbps, thnx.

That's all it takes to be a distro slut!?

What the heck am I then?

%brl list -v
artix
bedrock
ceres -> devuan-ceres
devuan -> devuan-ceres
devuan-ceres
devuan-ceres-new
devuan-chimaera
devuan-testing -> devuan-chimaera
devuan-unstable -> devuan-ceres
exherbo
fartix
fentoo
fexherbo
garyos
gentoo
gentoostudio
goblin
gs -> gentoostudio
hijacked -> gentoo
init -> gentoo
jentoo
kentoo
kentwo
local -> gentoostudio
marklar
oasis
pclinuxos
space
suckless
tentoo
tudio -> gentoostudio
ubuntu
void
void-kde

And that's just one of my computers.

[... it's starting to make sense, thinking about one thing I made, I called wminizer]

Phew! For a split second I misred that as chmod o+w.

Whenever I hear Debian, I always imagine a newb OS called Nubian and damn that'd slap as a name.

All text would be in Papyrus font.

Interesting graphs.

Alas, the metric's a mite confounded by the different ways distros split up packages. So it skews e.g. the Debians up, and the voidlinuxen down.

... I'm guessing that still wouldn't be enough to put a dent in AUR and nixpkg 's towering package counts though.

Me: "Numbers or mechanics?"

But like with glasses or something.

I suggest a regimen of cold showers and coarse towels.

This hurts because Debian is named after a couple (Debra Lynn and Ian Murdock) who got married and divorced and Ian passed away. Going with Debian is a lifetime of hurt.

On the other hand Arch girls are described in Rick James's song "Superfreak".

Impotent or idempotent ?

Arch. I'm still having nightmares from trying to install up to date versions of user-space software onto Debian in 2008-ish, usually leading to having to compile it from source, usually leading to having many compiler errors due to make and GCC being quite a few versions behind. All the help I got in those days through forums are links to WinXP ISO torrents, and telling me that to stop ruining their "hobby OS".

Yes! ChromeOS is gentoo-based.

Relevant lemmy post

Actually, looking at that list again, I see I've neglected upgrading on that computer for longer than I realised... chimaera as testing? *checks site*, yeah that's "Chimaera 4.0 has moved to oldoldstable status.". That's like 4 versions old. XD

fuck. um, what if i sudo while you rm rf

I mean I don't have that laptop or pc anymore. So yeah.

openSUSE.

Devuan.
FTFY

What the heck am I then?

A container slut.

Both.

Debian for anything that has to run unattended for a long time without requiring much care. Arch for the desktop.

What the heck am I then?

A container slut.

???

But... there are zero containers on any of my systems.

and yet... their names are immortalized... it wouldnt surprise me if debian is still around in 50 years

I thought it was because we're all femboys and trans catgirls.

Ubuntu Server LTS on my first-ever server. I'mma green rook at this. I'm amazed at how quickly and easily Casa was to get up and running on an old laptop.

I still got a long ways to go before I can try Debian for a server.

She best answer Kinonite. Easy effort, and it's as fresh as we need. Leaving plenty of time to make sweet, sweet love. (cue Barry White soundtrack)

I always imagine a newb OS called Nubian

You mean an African distro?

oh shizz
really?
i was just kidding. aah ITS EVERYWHERE

Nah I'm just a boring old homo