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keiko fedia.io keiko@fedia.io
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4-panel meme using the "You guys are getting paid?" template from "We're the Millers" * Person 1: "I thought it was enough to just install Firefox" * Person 2: "You're not blocking ads to protect your pc?" * Person 3: "Y'all are allowing sites to run scripts on non-virtualized systems?" * Person 4: "Y'all are allowing scripts?"

sent from a disposable whonix qube

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aim4harmony lemmy.world aim4harmony@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-03-27
#2 · Quote Reply

You are allowing webpages to load?

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axh lemmy.world axh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#3 · Quote Reply

You are allowing webpages to load?

You guys turn on computers?

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-08-25
#4 · Quote Reply

I have never heard the bottom left take anywhere before, though.
Having said that, Firefox+ublock+noscript rules.

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keiko fedia.io keiko@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-20
#5 · Quote Reply

I have never heard the bottom left take anywhere before, though. Having said that, Firefox+ublock+noscript rules.

I have never heard the bottom left take anywhere before, though.

✨️ until now ✨️

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-08-25
#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

I have never heard the bottom left take anywhere before, though. ✨️ until now ✨️

"You are, without doubt, the strangest online-script user I've ever heard of."
"But you have heard of me!"

;-)

[Edit: Sorry, slipped into wrong language before...]

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Diplomjodler lemmy.world Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-08
#7 · Quote Reply

You guys turn on computers?

You guys use electricity?

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ladicius lemmy.world ladicius@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-16
#8 · Quote Reply

You guys use electricity?

Onga booga ogg?

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Natanox discuss.tchncs.de Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2024-10-07
#9 · Quote Reply

Onga booga ogg?

‎

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keiko fedia.io keiko@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-20
#10 · Quote Reply

"You are, without doubt, the strangest online-script user I've ever heard of." "But you have heard of me!" ;-) [Edit: Sorry, slipped into wrong language before...]

3-panel Jack Sparrow meme:
"You are, without a doubt, the strangest online-script user I've ever heard of."
"Ah..."
"But you have heard of me!"

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expatriado lemmy.world expatriado@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#11 · Quote Reply

‎

Big Bang!

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Digit lemmy.today Digit@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-07-29
#12 · Quote Reply

open dyslexia font?

nice touch.

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-05-30
#13 · Quote Reply

You are allowing webpages to load?

No. I load the webpages.

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keiko fedia.io keiko@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-20
#14 · Quote Reply

bonus meme:

Top text: "I don't always enable javascript,"
Bottom text: "but when I do, it's in a disposable whonix qube"

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rumschlumpel feddit.org rumschlumpel@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-23
#15 · Quote Reply

I have never heard the bottom left take anywhere before, though. Having said that, Firefox+ublock+noscript rules.

You can block JavaScript with uBlock, BTW!

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axh lemmy.world axh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#16 · Quote Reply

I can't convince my wife to even use an add blocker, because it makes some (terrible) websites unusable (and you need an entire one additional click to disable it, it's too much effort), blocking JS would make the entire internet unusable for normies.

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kubica fedia.io kubica@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-07-02
#17 · Quote Reply

‎

I went to see the thread in your instance because I thought it didn't federate properly. And the page for weird reasons loaded without css, which felt very appropriate for the thread.

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-08-25
#18 · Quote Reply

:-D

Sometimes, I just love the Fediverse and its inhabitants! ❤️

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juipeltje lemmy.world juipeltje@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#19 · Quote Reply

Bottom right is basically RMS/extreme FOSS enthusiast lol

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-08-25
#20 · Quote Reply

You can block JavaScript with uBlock, BTW!

Had a look into the ublock settings.
The one I found seems to be more of a nuke-grade total disabling, as opposed to the fine-grained approach of the noscript extension.

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MiRRoRMaN ani.social MiRRoRMaN@ani.social
Joined: 2026-07-21
#21 · Quote Reply

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rumschlumpel feddit.org rumschlumpel@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-23
#22 · (edited) Quote Reply

Had a look into the ublock settings. The one I found seems to be more of a nuke-grade total disabling, as opposed to the fine-grained approach of the noscript extension.

UBlock's approach is that you disable it for every site in the settings and then whitelist per site. Seems sensible enough to me. How does noscript do it?

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Richard lemmy.world richardisaguy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-13
#23 · (edited) Quote Reply

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This disabling scripts thing is really for hardcore privacy enthusiasts. Just install librewolf on your linux box, change the DNS on your router to block ads and you're good.

The reason i say it's for enthusiasts is that it will break everything as soon as you do it. And i mean it. The modern web is not useful without java script. Only websites designed specifically for working without javascript will still work.

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I_Clean_Here lemmy.world I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-04
#24 · Quote Reply

The last two Images are basically the same. Meme failed.

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/home/pineapplelover lemmy.dbzer0.com pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-30
#25 · Quote Reply

This disabling scripts thing is really for hardcore privacy enthusiasts. Just install librewolf on your linux box, change the DNS on your router to block ads and you're good. The reason i say it's for enthusiasts is that it will break everything as soon as you do it. And i mean it. The modern web is not useful without java script. Only websites designed specifically for working without javascri...

I use noscript extension and so every new site I access I have to whitelist it if I don't find it too sus

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Jadey feddit.nl snw@feddit.nl
Joined: 2023-06-11
#26 · Quote Reply

I use noscript extension and so every new site I access I have to whitelist it if I don't find it too sus

exactly this, I've been using noscript for at least 15 years by now, probably longer. It's annoying, sometimes. But it's worth it always.

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keiko fedia.io keiko@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-20
#27 · Quote Reply

Had a look into the ublock settings. The one I found seems to be more of a nuke-grade total disabling, as opposed to the fine-grained approach of the noscript extension.

Check out the wiki to see the different blocking modes available.

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keiko fedia.io keiko@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-20
#28 · Quote Reply

UBlock's approach is that you disable it for every site in the settings and then whitelist per site. Seems sensible enough to me. How does noscript do it?

That is certainly a valid approach to using ublock origin, but the wiki outlines a few other blocking modes available.

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keiko fedia.io keiko@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-20
#29 · Quote Reply

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It depends on the site. Some sites which leverage javascripts are still usable without the scripts. And there is a spectrum of usability. Lemmy is a good example. Most lemmy instances which are open to the public (without captchas or login) are generally usable without javascripts. Some features don't work, but knowing the path to the page allows manually getting there without javascript buttons. So like, adding /?sort=TopHour to the end of a lemmy instance's url sets the sorting for the page to top posts in the past hour. However, some other features don't seem to work at all. But then there are lemmy instances which utilize mlmym, which basically replicates old reddit and works 100% without javascripts. And then there are instances like mbin, which is designed to be a modern fediverse experience which does not require any javascripts, and it works very well.

When I load a site, any site, if I get a blank page or a bunch of placeholders for javascript elements, I just close the tab and move on. Sometimes if I'm curious, I'll switch from "Basic Page Style" to "No Style" (Alt+V Y N) to see if there's anything hidden beneath the surface.

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Onomatopoeia lemmy.cafe Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
Joined: 2025-01-02
#30 · Quote Reply

open dyslexia font? nice touch.

That makes it easier for dyslexics?

I find it awful to read - takes a lot more effort for me I'm surprised it helps with dyslexia.

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Onomatopoeia lemmy.cafe Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
Joined: 2025-01-02
#31 · Quote Reply

What you're saying is, it bears repeating!

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MiRRoRMaN ani.social MiRRoRMaN@ani.social
Joined: 2026-07-21
#32 · Quote Reply

It depends on the site. Some sites which leverage javascripts are still usable without the scripts. And there is a spectrum of usability. Lemmy is a good example. Most lemmy instances which are open to the public (without captchas or login) are generally usable without javascripts. Some features don't work, but knowing the path to the page allows manually getting there without javascript button...
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rumschlumpel feddit.org rumschlumpel@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-23
#33 · (edited) Quote Reply

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I'm reading a lot of personal blogs that don't use JS at all, or at least are still functional with JS blocked. A somewhat surprising amount of websites work without it.

The issue with JS is that while I assume that your use of JS is relatively minimal and you're not malicious, I don't know that, and even if you're not actively malicious, your site might still be compromized by exploited JS vulnerabilities, site hacks or uninformed/negligent choices of third party libraries/plugins/CDNs (NPM is notorious for supply chain attacks and lots of otherwise alright sites include font CDNs or even analytics). I'm not super anal about not using any site that doesn't work without JS, but having it off by default is definitely good practice and sometimes I do decide that I don't want to see a site that badly.

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keiko fedia.io keiko@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-20
#34 · (edited) Quote Reply

This disabling scripts thing is really for hardcore privacy enthusiasts. Just install librewolf on your linux box, change the DNS on your router to block ads and you're good. The reason i say it's for enthusiasts is that it will break everything as soon as you do it. And i mean it. The modern web is not useful without java script. Only websites designed specifically for working without javascri...

This disabling scripts thing is really for hardcore privacy enthusiasts.

It also just makes things better. Javascripts tend to make for a worse browsing experience to me.

it will break everything as soon as you do it

Sites that don't work without javascripts are broken sites. It's not the lack of javascript functionality that causes them to break. They are in a broken state and should be updated to not rely on javascripts. Leaving scripts disables makes it clear which sites are broken and which sites are worth accessing.

The modern web is not useful without java script.

I disagree. The modern web is unusable with all the ads, trackers, captchas, and javascripts. The true modern web consists of the sites which don't have all of those drawbacks. Mbin is a good example of what the modern web can and should be. It's superior to all other fediverse instances I've known.

Only websites designed specifically for not working with javascript will still work.

Those are the sites worth accessing. ^^

Just install librewolf on your linux box, change the DNS on your router to block ads and you're good.

I do agree that this is good advice <3

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JensSpahnpasta feddit.org JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-10-24
#35 · Quote Reply

So what's the best practice to let Firefox run in a virtualized system on Ubuntu?

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Staff piefed.world Staff@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-07-15
#36 · Quote Reply

I can't convince my wife to even use an add blocker, because it makes some (terrible) websites unusable (and you need an entire one additional click to disable it, it's too much effort), blocking JS would make the entire internet unusable for normies.

Pi-hole might be an option.

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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-27
#37 · Quote Reply

Those last two panels are so far past the inconvenience I'd ever be willing to put up with. I'm not sure how it could ever be worth it.

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KurtVonnegut mander.xyz KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz
Joined: 2024-08-28
#38 · (edited) Quote Reply

So what's the best practice to let Firefox run in a virtualized system on Ubuntu?

One tab per laptop, with each laptop in a Faraday cage, obviously.

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keiko fedia.io keiko@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-20
#39 · Quote Reply

So what's the best practice to let Firefox run in a virtualized system on Ubuntu?

For optimized privacy, Whonix should be able to be installed onto pretty much anything. It's a virtual machine pair. The gateway is configured to route all traffic through the tor network. The workstation contains all the applications and doesn't have its own networking, instead routing all network traffic to the gateway.

If Whonix is too much for you, another option is to configure a dedicated linux distribution in KVM or even Virtualbox. The point is to have a task-oriented virtual machine which is used exclusively for that task. So like, a vm for browsing the web, for instance, or one for using your fediverse account. You'd want to minimize the number of unnecessary packages installed in the vm.

And if you're at all like me (you're probably not), you might want to configure it in such a way that it's disposable via cloning from a template. So, you would create a vm based on a distro (Debian, for example), and then make sure to install the necessities for the vm's purpose and uninstall unnecessary packages. Then, shutdown the vm. When you want to use the vm, you would create a clone and use that. However, you'd need to manage updates in the template, not the clone.

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keiko fedia.io keiko@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-20
#40 · (edited) Quote Reply

Pi-hole might be an option.

Pi-hole is a great project for network-wide dns-based blocking, yes. I was going to link to the official site, but it seems to be broken now, so I linked to the official github repo.

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keiko fedia.io keiko@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-20
#41 · Quote Reply

I'm reading a lot of personal blogs that don't use JS at all, or at least are still functional with JS blocked. A somewhat surprising amount of websites work without it. The issue with JS is that while I assume that your use of JS is relatively minimal and you're not malicious, I don't know that, and even if you're not actively malicious, your site might still be compromized by exploited JS vul...

The security issues are the reason that, if I do decide to enable javascript, it's in a disposable whonix qube. Which is basically what the bottom left panel of the meme is describing. Whereas the bottom right describes my general lack of desire to enable it at all.

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axh lemmy.world axh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#42 · Quote Reply

Pi-hole is a great project for network-wide dns-based blocking, yes. I was going to link to the official site, but it seems to be broken now, so I linked to the official github repo.

I'm in the process of setting up pi-hole at the moment.

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aim4harmony lemmy.world aim4harmony@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-03-27
#43 · Quote Reply

You guys turn on computers?

You guys have a computer?

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aim4harmony lemmy.world aim4harmony@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-03-27
#44 · Quote Reply

You guys use electricity?

Omg In this economy?

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keiko fedia.io keiko@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-20
#45 · Quote Reply

One tab per laptop, with each laptop in a Faraday cage, obviously.

🎵 One tab makes things larger 🎵
🎵 And one tab makes things small 🎵
🎵 And the one with javascripts disabled 🎵
🎵 Doesn't resize elements at all 🎵
🎵 Static pages 🎵
🎵 Not a captcha wall 🎵

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rumschlumpel feddit.org rumschlumpel@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-23
#46 · Quote Reply

The security issues are the reason that, if I do decide to enable javascript, it's in a disposable whonix qube. Which is basically what the bottom left panel of the meme is describing. Whereas the bottom right describes my general lack of desire to enable it at all.

Quite sensible!

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axh lemmy.world axh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#47 · Quote Reply

You guys have a computer?

You are guys?

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keiko fedia.io keiko@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-20
#48 · Quote Reply

Those last two panels are so far past the inconvenience I'd ever be willing to put up with. I'm not sure how it could ever be worth it.

Bottom left is a super-convenient built-in feature of Qubes OS, via qubes-whonix. I just click a button and a new disposable whonix qube is generated from the template, and it only takes seconds to boot. When I'm done with it, I close the window, and the disposable qube is automatically deleted.

Bottom right is my default, since I don't like broken sites.

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forkDestroyer infosec.pub forkDestroyer@infosec.pub
Joined: 2025-01-25
#49 · Quote Reply

Those last two panels are so far past the inconvenience I'd ever be willing to put up with. I'm not sure how it could ever be worth it.

Gonna code up a plugin that adds a button to disable or enable JS on browsers.

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rumschlumpel feddit.org rumschlumpel@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-23
#50 · (edited) Quote Reply

Pi-hole might be an option.

AFAIK some sites are so terrible that they won't work even if you use DNS-based adblocking instead of browser extension-based adblocking ...

Definitely worth trying, though.

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ColonelThirtyTwo pawb.social ColonelThirtyTwo@pawb.social
Joined: 2024-05-21
#51 · Quote Reply

Gonna code up a plugin that adds a button to disable or enable JS on browsers.

NoScript?

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