One slightly different path here is socks. If a sock lives long enough for its elastic to wear out it can go to "garage clothes" category. Socks missing a mate can also go here being pair up with another sock with a missing mate. Another path for socks to "garage clothes" is if fashion trends finally evolving so far that wearing those socks will get admonishment from the gf/wife if worn out in public. However, as soon as a sock has a hole in it, it skips the "garage clothes" step and heads straight to the "rags" category.

I don't know what it is but no matter how nice of socks I get or how well I take care of them, they will get a hole in the big toe area within a year at the very latest. I've never had socks last long enough to have the elastic wear out

Also yes my nails are kept short so it's not that

I’m here with you. Do you feel like you have exceptionally hard nails? I sure do.

Nah, maybe how it once was and now I only wear Darn Tough socks. Lifetime warranty, basically a sock club. Most definitely buy once cry once and it doesn't matter whether you pay full price or get them on sale. They always warranty the value of the sock on what they sell for on their website. It's so awesome. I haven't needed to buy socks since 2017 when I filled my sock drawer.

DT is the way.

I almost never wear out the toes. For me its balls of the feet holes or occasionally a heel hole. I'll also say that my socks last a long time.

I bought a 12 new pairs of Adidas socks for a 2 week trip I took. Came home with 2 fewer socks because I put holes in the toes. It’s absolutely insane and it happens with all brands.

Really high quality brands like SmartWool last longer, but the big toe is still what fails first.

I bought some heavy duty socks, and so far the only holes they’ve gotten are from the dog. I still wear them because they’re on the top side.

Before that it’s a going-out shirt.

And there's the pajamas season as well.

This is quite accurate.

The life cycle is pretty similar for pants too.

Is “you women” bothering anybody else or is it just me?

I avoid step two by just never wearing matching socks.

Nah, maybe how it once was and now I only wear Darn Tough socks.

You're wearing a $20-$30 pair of socks to mow the lawn or change the oil in a car? I'd be worried about messing those nice socks up.

The context of a dad talking to his daughter in a private text message. Its likely used as a phrase of endearment referring to his wife and daughter. He's not speaking to about public women he doesn't know.

Shoes too tight? Or maybe on one foot.

That context still bugs me. I have lesbian parents, I’d still never say to them ‘you women’.

Do you ever smile and call anyone you love and "asshole" or a "bitch" sarcastically when you are joking and happy with them when there is full respect and zero malice? Or perhaps more generally, if someone were to look into your private text messages with your parents could anything you say be taken out of context and be displayed as disrespectful?

What gets me with these posts is the unnecessary gendering of universal human behaviors THAT EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF GENDER DOES. Do we think moms are feeding babies in their nice work blouses? Women are doing crafts in beautiful sundresses? When I work on my car I promise I'm not doing it in my nice clothes. Life isn't Instagram. Some people are just determined to see half the human species as not fully fleshed out people who do the exact same things they do.

I have about 25 pair, unsure exactly. I've paid an average $14 per pair and it's 100% worth it.

And yes, I wear a fresh pair for work or daily engagement and then they get set aside and used when I'm working around the house for a day or two.

The wool blend makes them never stink, it's pretty amazing. I bought the majority in 2016 or so from a now debunked website called MassDrop. They'd buy stuff in bulk for discounts then resell them at great prices. I just checked my old emails and paid two pair for $28 and three for $41. Later I bought a few more from GoBros.com for at least 25% off. Checking my emails I got most of them from MassDrop though.

Here's the thing, DT doesn't care how much you paid or how you got them, they credit the full value upon return and then you shop direct from their website for value credited. When I first started I'd used the rertuns like sock club, I'd send my thick winter ones back in the spring and get thinner summer ones. I'd do the reverse in the fall. My first few years I was swapping out socks twice a year. Now I have enough I wait until the ankle is loose on a few pairs then return in bulk to replace, every 3 years or so.

You don't need any excuse or reason to do a return that they need. You don't need a receipt.

I’d be worried about messing those nice socks up

That's the best part, because they're warrantied you can abuse tf out of them.

No, I don’t even know how you could do that, and even if I did what the fuck does that have to do with pointlessly gendering people?

Since you edited yours I guess I’ll edit mine: first these text messages aren’t private that’s why we’re talking about them, second no I don’t disrespect people on purpose even privately, third what do my text messages have to do with pointlessly gendering people?

Depending on if the holes develop at the top of the toe (dorsum) or the bottom (plantar), you could either have too much range of motion on toe off(hyper mobile 1st ray), or too much rigidity (hallux rigidus).

A hyper mobile toe will allow too much dorsiflexion in the toe and wear the top of the sock down, some people will even wear a hole in the toebox of their shoes. Too much rigidity will cause the toe to act like an extension of a lever arm and create too much plantar pressure.

You could also just have a competitively long big toe compared to your lesser toes.

Do women not do that? Where do they get rags from?

Then that's why you don't get it. Context is super important and there are people, a lot of people, of any gender or sexuality, that like to banter with people they are familiar with. Pointlessly gendering his daughter is the bloody point! Intentionally annoying people you are close with for kicks is fun. I'm not gonna say you aren't fun but please let others in their private context have their kind of harmless fun too.

In the internet talking to the whole world I would agree, weird punching down. But in a close friends or healthy family environment? It's fine.

If I were to have written such a thing I'd expect something like "yeah that's why you men have no style, it's all office shirts 🤮". It's just banter.

It’s possible to give somebody a good natured ribbing without using “women” as a pejorative term, and if you think that opinion makes me unfun then by all means go ahead and think that.

It did at first, until I kept reading and figured out the context.

Meanwhile companies like Shein encourage their customers to wear their cheap synthetic clothing a single time and then throw it in the garbage as a sacrifice to the gods of super-fast-fashion

I read the whole thing too, it still bothered me.

and if you think that opinion makes me unfun then by all means go ahead and think that.

Then I believe you are unfun or rather your sense of humor is limited. Alternately, I also accept that perhaps English isn't your first language and much of humor is mixed with advance language understanding.

It’s possible to give somebody a good natured ribbing without using “women” as a pejorative term,

This feels like we're deep into ThatstheJoke.jpg territory, but when a term that has an obvious pejorative usage exists, and it is used by a speaker you know doesn't hold that pejorative opinion, then the joke gains another level of humor that the speaker is communicating the opinion they are stating can be considered jokingly dumb as though someone stupid that would use the term as a pejorative would hold that opinion. Its a method of communication that telegraphs the joking context to the recipient.

In this case it is extremely unlikely the Dad uses the "you women" ever as a pejorative. So the only reason he would use it is as a joke. He's telling the daughter "hey, joke incoming using hyperbole of gender stereotypes here."

I'm taking a different path where the holes make the clothes into fun pieces with fun patches on them (or they're turned into patches if I didn't really like the article of clothing to begin with).

I have a few subcategories like camping shirts and music festival shirts but otherwise it's spot on. The same goes for pants and hoodies.

But it says it right on the box, "ribbed for her pleasure". Can't argue with facts!

And for underwear the path is "maybe I'll get laid" then "still no holes so I can be seen in them" and finally "I'm not going out today so I don't care that one of my balls fell out through the hole". And then rags.

You still seem to be missing the point so I will just leave this here.

I’m not sure your contention that othering people is humorous makes you as fun as you think it does.

I took it as "this is the thought process that you might not have thought of" as in neurons firing differently. It's not disrespectful to say one group thinks differently.

I have ADHD and my mind gets put on a track I can't control, so sometimes I'll hear someone say something and stop listening to the conversation and just find out where my brain chooses to let me off. Sometimes I laugh at the stop, while my friends kept up normal conversation. They're like "what?" And I have to just laugh and wave it off because it's not worth explaining my train of thought. Or why I'm laughing at their uncles golf cart crash that lead to him being hospitalized because of bees.

People think differently and sometimes you explain it, sometimes you don't. Honestly in this context, I think it puts it in a light mood like a joking mansplaining, when they're really explaining their neurodivergence. Like I often do with my son "listen here you little shit..." When he asks obvious insulting questions about when I was young and lived in caves, or what I remember about sailing with Columbus.

Clearly the intent isn't misogyny.

You're probably walking wrong (like, in a requiring orthotics way)

You still seem to be missing the point so I will just leave this here.

Oh, I'm not missing your point. I think you're stopping as soon as you see an answer and are not looking beyond it.

I’m not sure your contention that othering people is humorous makes you as fun as you think it does.

I feel very sorry for your that you have not experienced any intimate relationships where you can know love beyond the literal definitions of words. I hope someday you can find this. In the years ahead as you grow up, you will learn that those very close like husband and wife can have entire conversations which sound like one thing, but are something else entirely. Sometimes its not even words, but just a sound or a look.

Good luck friend.

Cutting my toenails shorter did the trick for me.

They get married.

I’m a very middle aged dad, I still have t-shirts from high school that I wear on occasion. Granted, they are in the survivor pile now, but it’s a point of pride that I still have them, and still fit into them. Fun to dust off my old concert t’s every now and again.

I'm single, maybe some of You ladies need a good source of rags?

I really don’t appreciate you making assumptions about my personal relationships and frankly I think it says a lot more about you than me. For the record I’ve been with the same person for over 15 years.

Socks missing a mate can also go here being pair up with another sock with a missing mate.

I do not match my socks, I'll wear two completely different socks at the same time. If one loses a mate, then that's fine

Sounds like they hurt you. Do you need help.

This is fantastic! I did some searching for at home tests for hyper mobile first ray, and I definitely see a difference in mobility from one foot to the other, and I feel like my hyper mobile toe is always the one I see sock holes on.

Dunno what if anything I’m going to do about it, but greatly appreciate your insight.

You think my parents hurt me because I won’t pointlessly refer to them by their gender? What the fuck?

encourage their customers to wear their cheap synthetic clothing a single time and then throw it in the garbage

do you have a single fact to back that up?

Yep. You remind me of a scientologist's kid.

missing an important part of the lifecycle : the origin of the new clothes.

The money saved from not buying new clothes at each transitional step ends up used for buying new clothes to start the cycle again.

The fast fashion part?

https://time.com/6247732/shein-climate-change-labor-fashion/

The encouraging a single use part? Also in that article, but it revolves around influencers driving constant change. But also the clothes being really cheap and falling apart.

And anecdotally, there's a pile of clothes in my wife's closet that still haven't gotten their first wear.

Which only further encourages the existing tendency for single-use clothing that some groups of people exhibit.