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Natanael infosec.pub Natanael@infosec.pub
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#52 · Quote Reply

I know this is a joke, but to be fair: the scientific consensus (now) is that the purple pigmentation acts as a sort of sunscreen against too much sunlight.

So they're like black plants

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rants_unnecessarily piefed.social rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-03
#53 · Quote Reply

Anthocyanins!. Which curiously enough, can also photosynthesize, and more readily absorb energy from green light than chlorophyll! Makes me wonder what could be achieved with some careful engineering...

That paper talks only about it producing red leaves, or "vermilion" as it calls them.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#54 · (edited) Quote Reply

Anthocyanins!. Which curiously enough, can also photosynthesize, and more readily absorb energy from green light than chlorophyll! Makes me wonder what could be achieved with some careful engineering...

there are plenty of purple plants, im guessing certain plants evolved to do this, and most remain green(there also other complicated mechanism like cam, c2,,,etc. plants can get sunburned if exposed to too much light.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#55 · Quote Reply

That's from plants that get their air mostly from the shade and sunsets, so obviously they'd be less yellow and more dark and red.

they are more dark green if they a understory plant, or a shaded plant. there of course plants that have no chlorophyll whatsoever. 2 types, one is mostly albino plants where they lose all thier chlorophyll, the other is mycoheterotrophic plants(either partial or fully). ever seen a albino redwood, apparently it lives off being attached to the roots of the parent plant where it came from or from nearby trees.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#56 · (edited) Quote Reply

There's also an extremely tiny percent of plants that are entirely white, they don't get their energy through photosynthesis but instead a parasitic relationship of fungi and other plants.

Albino plants are a thing, but they usually are attached to the main plant where they came from. albino redwoods is an example. fully parasitic plants usually dont have leaves or have a small nonfunctional ones. some parasitic plants is exist as filaments inside a host(no stem no, leaves whatsoever)(rafflesia, pilostyles). the most famous is miseltoe, which is hemiparasitics, as it can sitll fully photosynthesize.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#57 · (edited) Quote Reply

Mycoheterotrophs! Love them, such bizarre little plants

partial and fully mycoheterotrophic orchids are fascinating. at least 1 kind is native to North america with many species(corallhiza, trifida being the most common since its a partial mycoheterotroph), gastrodia seems to be the most species rich MH.

they keep finding new thismia species(1 supposedly existed in america a century ago, but became extinct. the rest lives in South east asia, china, india, and australia area. they refind at least 2 thismia that went extinct but was found again in another area(T.kobensis, and T. neptunis). i find thismia the most fascinating one.

and South america has thier own thismia(its alleged that this is a different genus related to thismia), recently they seperated the African variety into its own family status.

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heartSagan5 lemmy.zip heartSagan5@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-05-27
#58 · Quote Reply

So, what color were plants during the Hadean æon?

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heartSagan5 lemmy.zip heartSagan5@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-05-27
#59 · Quote Reply

Mix blue and yellow paint and you end up with green paint.

So, is the blue from the water in the plant or the air?

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rumba lemmy.zip rumba@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2024-09-24
#60 · Quote Reply

The crazy part is the exact science behind why plants reflect green specifically is still debated. One theory is that, because much of the sun's energy is released on that wavelength, controlling for it specifically allows the plant to better manage energy fluctuations (highly simplified but you get the idea) ::: spoiler longer explanation and source Plants are green specifically because the re...

"Why" and "biology" famously do not get along. The best you can usually do is say it's evolutionarily advantageous because the true answer is usually a neural network the size of life itself. There are plenty of decent reasons that play parts that we can quibble over, though.

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rumba lemmy.zip rumba@lemmy.zip
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#61 · Quote Reply

Anthocyanins!. Which curiously enough, can also photosynthesize, and more readily absorb energy from green light than chlorophyll! Makes me wonder what could be achieved with some careful engineering...

Purple Humans who don't need to eat.

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psud aussie.zone psud@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-07-26
#62 · Quote Reply

"Why" and "biology" famously do not get along. The best you can usually do is say it's evolutionarily advantageous because the true answer is usually a neural network the size of life itself. There are plenty of decent reasons that play parts that we can quibble over, though.

In respect to green leaves I have read that it is most likely a peak. They can't get to a better colour that doesn't send away lots of energy because they would have to lose the ability to make energy from sunlight to get to a better way of doing it

Plants manage to use about 2% of the sunlight that hits them (the best get up to 6%) . Our rooftop solar does 22% (with the best managing 25%)

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swelter_spark reddthat.com swelter_spark@reddthat.com
Joined: 2025-03-06
#63 · Quote Reply

Never really used Reddit, I came here from mastodon. Never used Twitter either.

Same.

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Trail lemmy.world Trail@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-11
#64 · Quote Reply

Plants are green because they absorb all other wavelengths of light. And bounce the green into your eye. In actual fact, color only exists in your brain as a way to understand the world around us. Our eyes are just sensors that detect light. And color is how we process it. We could have evolved into understanding it in different ways too, like smell. Therefore color doesnt even exist in the nat...

Color exists physically as different wavelengths of light. The thing "in your mind" is about non-natural colors which trigger multiple light cones in your eye and your brain interprets them a certain way different than the natural colors. In that sense you do interpret the wavelengths one way or another in your head, but the actual light wavelengths so exist.

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Diurnambule jlai.lu Diurnambule@jlai.lu
Joined: 2023-08-29
#65 · Quote Reply

So, is the blue from the water in the plant or the air?

The air is blue buddy so it come from thsi

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phonics lemmy.world phonics@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-15
#66 · Quote Reply

Color exists physically as different wavelengths of light. The thing "in your mind" is about non-natural colors which trigger multiple light cones in your eye and your brain interprets them a certain way different than the natural colors. In that sense you do interpret the wavelengths one way or another in your head, but the actual light wavelengths so exist.

Yeah wavelengths exist. But ALL color only exists in your mind as perception. Natural and non natural.

If color existed outside of light touching your eye, you would be able to deduce it without light.

Fun to think about.

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SystemDisc feddit.org SystemDisc@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-05-20
#67 · (edited) Quote Reply

The same is true for all colors. Tell me the color of a single atom. Yes, air can be colors other than blue at unusual light conditions, like sunset. But the same is true for any material. You're stuck on the urge to explain. You call "the air is blue" incomplete. But all answers are incomplete. When someone asks what color an object is, they mean under ordinary distances and conditions. Air is...

Most physical objects I encounter are the same color up close that they are far away...

Edit: ITT, people who completely misunderstand my point downvoting me and being pedantic

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BoosBeau lemmy.world BoosBeau@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-07-18
#68 · Quote Reply

Lemme guess, reddit transplant?

Wouldn't it be a "lemmy" guess? I'll go ahead and see myself out.

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ranzispa mander.xyz ranzispa@mander.xyz
Joined: 2025-10-18
#69 · Quote Reply

Plants look green because the green spectrum has a lot of energy, and to stop over heating and leaf burning and messing with the delicate photosynthesis, plants reflect or let green mostly pass through and only use about 20% of green soecturm energy, while mostly use all of red end and blue end.. At least that's what I heard on a science show.

Explain this then

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-05-30
#70 · (edited) Quote Reply

I'm still not following. What part of "blue air" imparts chlorophyll with its color? I get the sun. I understand how light works (reflection, refraction, and scattering). I understand our perception of light on a neuological level (including post-processing) to an extent that most people haven't studied. Why "blue" air make green plant?

Air is light blue because it filters out red, which is why chlorophyl has optimized for the mix of the remaining wavelengths yellow and blue, which is green. Color theory of additive blending.

(Our sun is slightly yellow, which is why the sky isn't cyan and why alot of tropical plants are darker green close to brown/red)

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BCsven lemmy.ca BCsven@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-17
#71 · Quote Reply

Explain this then

We have diverse geography, and genetic diversity. Obviously this plant worked out a way to use the high energy of the wide green ranhe, without overcooking itself. But if you compare all plamt leaves and grasses of plant life green is the most common.

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Bluescluestoothpaste sh.itjust.works Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-05
#72 · Quote Reply

Plants look green because the green spectrum has a lot of energy, and to stop over heating and leaf burning and messing with the delicate photosynthesis, plants reflect or let green mostly pass through and only use about 20% of green soecturm energy, while mostly use all of red end and blue end.. At least that's what I heard on a science show.

And why does the green spectrum have a lot of energy?

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Bluescluestoothpaste sh.itjust.works Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-05
#73 · Quote Reply

Cab you help explain it? I thought that the sky was blue because it reflects the ocean and because of rayleigh scattering, but do either of these affect the color of plants?

Sky isn't yellow over a cornfield

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BCsven lemmy.ca BCsven@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-17
#74 · Quote Reply

And why does the green spectrum have a lot of energy?

I'd have to go back and find the science article, but it was something about sunrise, sunset which would often provide end of spectrum red or blue, while full daylight provided a lot of green light spectrum. Plants having to balalnce processes in full spectrum would overload/oveheat so they evolved to reflect or transmit through 80% of that spectrum.

They mostly use red and blue for photosynthesis because those seem more steady during daylight hours in various seasons and hours of the day. Cloudy day still gets infrared end through etc.

The green overlaps into red and blue zones. Its not so much that it is higher energy than blue, but a wider amount of spectrum total energy the plant wants to avoid.

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Digit lemmy.today Digit@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-07-29
#75 · Quote Reply

Why are plants purple?

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g0d0fm15ch13f lemmy.world g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#76 · Quote Reply

Except the sun isn't yellow, it's white with a slight bias towards green. Want to check, put something white outside, it looks white, not yellow.

with a slight bias towards green

And it's my understanding THATS why plants are green

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humorlessrepost lemmy.world humorlessrepost@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#77 · Quote Reply

Why are plants purple?

They’re not anymore

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HereIAm lemmy.world HereIAm@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-19
#78 · Quote Reply

Most physical objects I encounter are the same color up close that they are far away... Edit: ITT, people who completely misunderstand my point downvoting me and being pedantic

Would you also say a mirror is green? Or a glass of water is blue? Windows are a greenish hue? Shaving foam is blue?

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RagingRobot lemmy.world RagingRobot@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#79 · Quote Reply

So, what color were plants during the Hadean æon?

What color was the sky?

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Warl0k3 lemmy.world Warl0k3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-11
#80 · (edited) Quote Reply

Would you also say a mirror is green? Or a glass of water is blue? Windows are a greenish hue? Shaving foam is blue?

I came upon a silly scene,
As they opined 'bout blue,
"The lemming's comment rhymes!", I screamed
An experience quite new!

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mirshafie europe.pub mirshafie@europe.pub
Joined: 2025-11-07
#81 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

And here's the correct answer, boys and girls.

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Rooskie91 discuss.online Rooskie91@discuss.online
Joined: 2023-08-18
#82 · (edited) Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

It was also a great pun for the topic being discussed.

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Donkter lemmy.world Donkter@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#83 · Quote Reply

Most physical objects I encounter are the same color up close that they are far away... Edit: ITT, people who completely misunderstand my point downvoting me and being pedantic

If a leaf was broken up into microscopic bits and flung into the air you wouldn't be able to determine what color it was either. So at best the thing thats missing is that there's a lot less air.

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SystemDisc feddit.org SystemDisc@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-05-20
#84 · (edited) Quote Reply

If a leaf was broken up into microscopic bits and flung into the air you wouldn't be able to determine what color it was either. So at best the thing thats missing is that there's a lot less air.

I don't disagree. It's just that we don't frequently encounter throwing microscopic bits of things into the air in our lives, especially early lives. It's pretty normal to be curious about the color of the sky as a child, and it is not obvious that distance of air is what makes enough of a difference. I think you've entirely missed the point of my original comment.

To understand why the sky is blue and why butterfly wings are all sorts of colors even though the material itself is not that color is not something that is intuitive or easy to understand without a great deal of experience and prior knowledge.

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brown567 sh.itjust.works brown567@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-09-28
#85 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Better question: "Why is the sky usually blue but sometimes red?"

Talking specifically about sunsets, not apocalyptic wildfire smoke

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brown567 sh.itjust.works brown567@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-09-28
#86 · Quote Reply

with a slight bias towards green And it's my understanding THATS why plants are green

Actually, leaves look green because they don't absorb green light (that's why grow bulbs are red & blue)

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Lemmywinks lemmy.world icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-07
#87 · (edited) Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

It's the opposite, no? Red and green light have shorter wavelengths, so they get scattered before they reach our eyes, but the blue wavelengths are long enough that we actually see them

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isleepinahammock lemmy.blahaj.zone isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-09-06
#88 · Quote Reply

Most physical objects I encounter are the same color up close that they are far away... Edit: ITT, people who completely misunderstand my point downvoting me and being pedantic

What is the color of a carbon atom?

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#89 · Quote Reply

It's the opposite, no? Red and green light have shorter wavelengths, so they get scattered before they reach our eyes, but the blue wavelengths are long enough that we actually see them

No, it's well known Raleigh scattering. Red and green have longer wavelengths than blue. Just past red, in the "wavelengths too long to be seen" direction is infrared which we feel as heat, and which just makes things warm. If you go the other direction into "wavelengths too short to be seen" direction, past violet, you get into Ultra Violet or UV, which is ionizing radiation, and that's why UV is a skin cancer danger. The short wavelength blue light gets scattered, the longer wavelengths don't, so the sky appears blue, and the sun appears yellow.

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g0d0fm15ch13f lemmy.world g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#90 · Quote Reply

Actually, leaves look green because they don't absorb green light (that's why grow bulbs are red & blue)

Sorry, I gave an incomplete answer. It is my understanding that chloroplasts use the blue and red (high and low frequencies of visible light) and the remaining spectrum looks green because of the aforementioned bias with less "noise" to obfuscate the bias, otherwise chloroplasts would appear more yellow.

But truthfully I'm neither a physist nor a biologist and I was kinda hoping to employ Cunningham's law. So if I'm wrong please do correct me. Especially if it has to do with rods and cones since those never really made sense to me

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AgentOrangesicle lemmy.world AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#91 · Quote Reply

Air is light blue because it filters out red, which is why chlorophyl has optimized for the mix of the remaining wavelengths yellow and blue, which is green. Color theory of additive blending. (Our sun is slightly yellow, which is why the sky isn't cyan and why alot of tropical plants are darker green close to brown/red)

Are you saying that chlorophyll naturally evolved to take in specific wavelengths of light given the availability of light in specific frequencies in response to how the sun's light moves through our amosphere? I would get it, but that would be so frustrating of a response to, "why air blue matter".

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AgentOrangesicle lemmy.world AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#92 · Quote Reply

Air is light blue because it filters out red, which is why chlorophyl has optimized for the mix of the remaining wavelengths yellow and blue, which is green. Color theory of additive blending. (Our sun is slightly yellow, which is why the sky isn't cyan and why alot of tropical plants are darker green close to brown/red)

I mean, yeah. I'm reaching for the, "why", though. Specifically for chlorophyll, which reflects light with a specificity. As does carotene in dying trees in the fall.

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Naz sh.itjust.works Naz@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-18
#93 · Quote Reply

Why are plants purple?

Blue waves fast
Red waves slow

Easy as

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AgentOrangesicle lemmy.world AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#94 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Oh, damn. Reductionist.

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AgentOrangesicle lemmy.world AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#95 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

I hate that one misclick can delete my comment.

Would that be a natural, logical discernment for someone trying to figure out why chlorophyll is green? I say that this is an unhinged take and everyone siding with it should feel like... an amount of bad. It's pretty misleading by virtue.

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Deme sopuli.xyz Deme@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-08-09
#96 · Quote Reply

I hate that one misclick can delete my comment. Would that be a natural, logical discernment for someone trying to figure out why chlorophyll is green? I say that this is an unhinged take and everyone siding with it should feel like... an amount of bad. It's pretty misleading by virtue.

This comment here had a much more grounded explanation

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Zerush lemmy.ml Zerush@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-04-25
#97 · Quote Reply

Science is making mistakes towards to the truth

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SLVRDRGN lemmy.world SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-04-14
#98 · Quote Reply

Better question: "Why is the sky usually blue but sometimes red?" Talking specifically about sunsets, not apocalyptic wildfire smoke

Incidentally it's the same reason between a sunset and smoke - more scattering.

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captainlezbian lemmy.world captainlezbian@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#99 · Quote Reply

Explain this then

Because evolution isn't actually guided and is really just a process of mutation, reassembly (for sexual species), then checking to see if it works well enough to pass genes on. Apparently red leaves work for that plant

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captainlezbian lemmy.world captainlezbian@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#100 · Quote Reply

So, what color were plants during the Hadean æon?

Same color as animals were

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Ech lemmy.ca ech@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-06-25
#101 · (edited) Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Steve Mould has a great video digging into why things look white: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gug67f1_8jM

Probably not strictly translatable to all other colors, but a helpful illustration of how color is a result of the way objects interact with light, not inherent properties of the object itself.

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