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AEsheron lemmy.world AEsheron@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#52 · Quote Reply

Also see: Tolkien was a total hack.

Seinfeld is Unfunny

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schipelblorp sh.itjust.works schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-16
#53 · (edited) Quote Reply

Seinfeld is Unfunny

TVTropes is a cancer site now. Can't recommend anyone visit it.

Lesson: Never support a project unless it's open source.

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Funkt4st1c lemmy.world Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-30
#54 · Quote Reply

In real life, the sun is called "Sol" and we are in the "Solar system" as in, sol-ar. Others are called star systems, some are named; "Polaris" is usually just called that instead of the "Polaris system" or the like

Helios -> Helios system follows this same logic.

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agent_nycto lemmy.world agent_nycto@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-10
#55 · Quote Reply

Would actually be fun to have an android character that tries to be less human. Like it's an unfortunate happenstance that someone designed him to be human-like, and its primary goal is to purge this aspect of itself. Like an Uncle Tom character with deep-rooted anxieties and a machine supremacy complex. Come to think of it, this has to exist already, it doesn't feel all that original, but I ca...

Marvin the paranoid android from Hitchhikers Guide.

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GraniteM lemmy.world GraniteM@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-11
#56 · Quote Reply

Exactly. You've got limited time to tell your story in a movie, so establishing a fake currency that nobody except hardcore numistatics nerds will care about is kinda pointless when everyone already understands that credits = future money. And as you say using a real currency doesn't make sense in most future movie contexts, and using the "wrong" one may even offend some people who may then boy...

"I need a length of rope!"

[Puts down a gold coin worth a month's wages.]

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GraniteM lemmy.world GraniteM@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-11
#57 · Quote Reply

Takes off space helmet on alien planet, "the air is fine!"

"Woah! Don't open that! It's an alien planet! Is there air?! You don't know!"

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GraniteM lemmy.world GraniteM@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-11
#58 · Quote Reply

Broke: Memory units in optimistic numbers of megabytes and gigabytes.

Woke: Memory units in astronomically-high numbers of gigabytes and terabytes.

Bespoke: Memory units in totally incomprehensible units like kiloquads or exanodes.

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Etterra discuss.online Etterra@discuss.online
Joined: 2024-12-10
#59 · Quote Reply

Farscape called currency... Currency...

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YerLam lemmy.world YerLam@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-11
#60 · Quote Reply

Broke: Memory units in optimistic numbers of megabytes and gigabytes. Woke: Memory units in astronomically-high numbers of gigabytes and terabytes. Bespoke: Memory units in totally incomprehensible units like kiloquads or exanodes.

Or never specify. "That spacestation has massive computing power" "How big?" "Massive."

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Demdaru lemmy.world Demdaru@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#61 · Quote Reply

Broke: Memory units in optimistic numbers of megabytes and gigabytes. Woke: Memory units in astronomically-high numbers of gigabytes and terabytes. Bespoke: Memory units in totally incomprehensible units like kiloquads or exanodes.

Slaps the superships central computer "This here runs on 12 bits of memory! Our engineers really outdone themselves with optimisation this time."

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marzhall lemmy.world marzhall@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#62 · Quote Reply

District 9 was excellent, but those were also refugee aliens. You know how that'd play out over there...

...the same way it played out in the movie?

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supercargo r.nf supercargo@r.nf
Joined: 2024-06-16
#63 · Quote Reply

Gunther Hermann

need skulgun for head

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TrackinDaKraken lemmy.world DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-26
#64 · (edited) Quote Reply

Aliens land in the US. Soldiers open fire on the Aliens Why is there no movie where they land somewhere else and we all go "well thank fuck they didn't land in Texas"

District 9 was set in South Africa.

EDIT: Oh, should'a scrolled down. Consider this a mirror comment.

ɒɔiɿʇA ʜƚuoƧ ni ƚɘƨ ƨɒw 9 ƚɔiɿƚƨiᗡ

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Tattorack lemmy.world Tattorack@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-28
#65 · Quote Reply

Eh, in my sci-fi universe the Sun is called "Sol-Centauri", but still just referred to as "the Sun" by most people.

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rustydrd sh.itjust.works rustydrd@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-07
#66 · Quote Reply

Literally the One's from Battlestar Galactica.

Have never seen the show, but from a quick search, that seems pretty spot on for what I had in mind.

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heartSagan5 lemmy.zip heartSagan5@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-05-27
#67 · (edited) Quote Reply

Slaps the superships central computer "This here runs on 12 bits of memory! Our engineers really outdone themselves with optimisation this time."

I mean, the word size — alone — on the Voyager space crafts seems to have gone further than anything today.

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greyscale lemmy.grey.ooo greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo
Joined: 2026-03-20
#68 · Quote Reply

...the same way it played out in the movie?

I'd imagine more agent orange.

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luciferofastora feddit.org luciferofastora@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-02-07
#69 · Quote Reply

Or never specify. "That spacestation has massive computing power" "How big?" "Massive."

"This baby has enough memory to make elephants look forgetful." "...what's an elephant?" "No clue."

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luciferofastora feddit.org luciferofastora@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-02-07
#70 · Quote Reply

TVTropes is a cancer site now. Can't recommend anyone visit it. Lesson: Never support a project unless it's open source.

Why, what happened?

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schipelblorp sh.itjust.works schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-16
#71 · (edited) Quote Reply

Why, what happened?

It got enshittified. The owners wanted to make money, so it's crammed full of ads now. And apparently there's censorship?

But it looks like there's a fork here:

https://allthetropes.org/wiki/All_The_Tropes:Why_Fork_TV_Tropes

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luciferofastora feddit.org luciferofastora@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-02-07
#72 · Quote Reply

It got enshittified. The owners wanted to make money, so it's crammed full of ads now. And apparently there's censorship? But it looks like there's a fork here: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/All_The_Tropes:Why_Fork_TV_Tropes

The owners wanted to make money, so it's crammed full of ads now.

Ublock should take care of that...

And apparently there's censorship?

...but that's a bit of a no-no

But it looks like there's a fork here:

Will check it out, thanks for linking <3

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schipelblorp sh.itjust.works schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-16
#73 · (edited) Quote Reply

The owners wanted to make money, so it's crammed full of ads now. Ublock should take care of that... And apparently there's censorship? ...but that's a bit of a no-no But it looks like there's a fork here: Will check it out, thanks for linking &lt;3

I did some more digging and came across a reddit post with more details: https://www.reddit.com/r/tvtropes/comments/4cpfrg/tv_tropes_and_censorship_they_changed_it_now_it/


TV Tropes and Censorship: They Changed it, Now it Sucks (YMMV)

spoiler

Now let me begin by saying I'm not looking for a fight here, but it's been bugging me for a while now.

Famous last words, I know.

Today, I'd like to talk about censorship.
Ponderous Background

I've been with TV Tropes for a while now, since around 2007 and I've been a fairly regular reader since then. When I first got linked to it, it took a few weeks for me to finally clean out all the damn tabs from my browser. Best time I wasted that year.

It was refreshing in its candor, everything was discussed, nothing was forbidden. Sick topics with sick examples gave me a better understanding of a lot of topics than a clinical explanation ever could.

It was also a gold mine for sick links I could troll my friends with. Good times.

But even the clean topics taught me a lot and entertained in equal measure, perhaps moreso. The site was fun because the discussions were fun.
On Discussions

The discussions were fun because we were free.

Free in the sense that you can scream whatever the hell you want in the woods. Except your friends are with you, they're hilarious, and so are you.

True, a lot of the replies to any example didn't always add too much to the discussion, but they were fun, damn you. Taken as a whole, the entire block of discussion pretty much could sum up why a joke was funny by watching the fandom interact with it in a vacuum.

They also could contain moments of loss, sadness, or the kinds of things you only confess on your deathbed discussed with the kind of anonymity one can only dream of now. Admittedly, a whole bunch must have been fake, at least I hope so. Most of those, by the way, are in topics conveniently marked with "No Real Life Examples Please" now and are lost to us.
Purge

One day, I visited and saw that the site seemed different. Doing my usual rounds, I noticed there was less talking, less content, less examples. I tried to go to a page and saw that it was gone entirely.

The great purge had begun.

One by one, whole articles disappeared. Eventually the truth came out, Google AdSense didn't cater to sites with mature topics anymore so they rolled out new posting guidelines and culled all the offending content.

I can understand this decision, I know the cost of running a site. But there are alternatives out there, reddit is still plugging along mostly on the sales of reddit gold for example, and it seems like they didn't really try very hard before changing the entire dynamic of the site.

At the time I wasn't outraged about it, I'm still not, just somewhat put off.

We didn't really need the mature articles, I said to myself at the time. Now I'm not so sure, if we hide discussion of a topic and call it taboo, progress halts on that front. How are we supposed to address anything if we don't talk about it? This is why there are still people who think AIDS only affects gay people.

Regardless, things changed and we tried to make do with what we had.
Unexpected Effects

Eventually though, the discussions petered out, comments were being deleted for being irrelevant so the jokes stopped too.

Unconsciously, I stopped visiting as often as I used to.

A few years ago though, as I was the head writer for a large newsletter that discussed marketing tips and tricks, I decided to spin things up a bit and ran a popular segment that discussed overused marketing tropes and alternatives.

For research I used TV Tropes and I was saddened to notice that it didn't really grip me anymore. I could look for what I wanted and go without a second thought, a far cry from my first visit. Why wouldn't I? There's nothing that would entice me to look deeper, the site is sterile.
Formatting Issues

It's not just the lack of discussion that kills it for me though, it's the format.

More than 90% of the main content is still there, so why is the magic dead? Simple, streamlining.

Whoever streamlined the articles did it masterfully, there's a place for everything and everything in it's place. There's a section for the Fridge, Analysis, etc so that no page ever goes on to be particularly long. The problem is, this ensures that the link clicking behavior is no longer organic.

The great part of the old format was that you discovered something new while reading and there's suddenly a very enticing link to all the other things similar to that. It was like finding a dollar bill in a library book, that was the crack/heroin/drug of your choice.

Now, I can finish a page in 5 minutes. I am now at the bottom of the page, my job is done. There are no links to further sections of interest because they're all at the top. This is a UI fail.

Even if the links were at the bottom though, what's the point? They don't have any interesting/funny context that would make you want to click them. So I'm free to leave, and this freedom saddens me because there is a mountain of content here and I have no interest in it.

Say goodbye to the rest of your day? Hardly.
Final Thoughts, I swear

Admittedly, my nostagia glasses could just be covering my eyes. The site could have been shit and I'm just getting too old to enjoy the new and improved one. I can't tell.

If so, then please ignore the ramblings of a crotchety Gen X-er who wants you to get the hell off his lawn.


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brown567 sh.itjust.works brown567@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-09-28
#74 · Quote Reply

Sun is called Sol.

And moon is called Luna

That's why an orbit around the sun is "solar" and an orbit around the moon is 'lunar"

It seems like earth is just called earth for most spaceflight purposes (e.g. low-earth orbit), although the word for it in some Latin languages comes from "terra"

I think it'd be fun to call earth "Humus". We get words like posthumous, exhume, humility from it, and it's theorized that it may share an origin with the word Homo, from which we get "Human".

So if we called it Earth we'd be Earthlings, if we call it Terra we'd be Terrans, if we called it Tellus we'd be Tellurians, but if we called it Humus we could stay as Humans =D

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Furbag pawb.social Furbag@pawb.social
Joined: 2026-01-27
#75 · Quote Reply

Helios and Luna? You're mixing Greek and Latin nomenclature! My immersion is ruined!

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trxxruraxvr lemmy.world trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
#76 · Quote Reply

I think that’s also because a couple hundred years ago practically every currency was just a certain weight of gold, silver or copper. Different coins were just an easy way to recognize the weight. Maybe we need to get some numismatics to weigh in here, but I think currency could be extremely tricky depending on where and when you were. I remember reading about medieval Italy and it seemed ever...

They would all have different coins, but the actual value of those coins was determined by their weight, so as long as you could verify that it didn't matter much. Scraping worked because not every salesperson would check the weight of the coins.

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schipelblorp sh.itjust.works schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-16
#77 · Quote Reply

They would all have different coins, but the actual value of those coins was determined by their weight, so as long as you could verify that it didn't matter much. Scraping worked because not every salesperson would check the weight of the coins.

Are you spitballing like me or is this your field? Because you'd need to know the percentage of the metal present in the coin to weigh it; gold and silver are too soft be pure. That introduces problems of debasement, a coin from an earlier minting might have a higher content than a later printing, and multiply that by all the different city-states, and you have a potential headache.

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OctopusNemeses lemmy.world OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-07-24
#78 · Quote Reply

The warrior alien who solves problems through brute force, and struggles to understand Earth customs in comedic ways.

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Ilovethebomb sh.itjust.works Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-08
#79 · Quote Reply

...the same way it played out in the movie?

That was kinda the point of the film, yes.

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17jGuFCOn89iY lemmy.world 17jGuFCOn89iY@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-05-12
#80 · Quote Reply

Tropes exist because they work and who cares what the money is called

There’s just so many more interesting options. Like what if the worms are their dollars?

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luciferofastora feddit.org luciferofastora@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-02-07
#81 · (edited) Quote Reply

I did some more digging and came across a reddit post with more details: https://www.reddit.com/r/tvtropes/comments/4cpfrg/tv_tropes_and_censorship_they_changed_it_now_it/ TV Tropes and Censorship: They Changed it, Now it Sucks (YMMV) ::: spoiler spoiler Now let me begin by saying I'm not looking for a fight here, but it's been bugging me for a while now. Famous last words, I know. Today, I'd l...

Biggest of oofs.

I could look for what I wanted and go without a second thought

Somehow, that hits me most on an emotional level. Rationally, the culling of mature content for ads' sake irritates me, and once the nostalgic shock wears off, it'll probably be my biggest issue with the whole deal, but right now, that's what gets me:

It's bad enough to have the entertainment marred by the bullshit. But if there's not even any entertainment left...

Thanks for digging it out!

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LazyBaby lemmy.zip LazyBaby@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-07-25
#82 · Quote Reply

There’s just so many more interesting options. Like what if the worms are their dollars?

I think that's super valid for a novel especially, as long as you don't mind that the movie adaptation decides it's not worth taking 10 minutes out of the runtime to explain vs something people will immediately understand

Or maybe there is nothing else interesting in the novel, and it won't matter anyway because no one reads or adapts it

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DahGangalang infosec.pub DahGangalang@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-07-15
#83 · Quote Reply

Broke: Memory units in optimistic numbers of megabytes and gigabytes. Woke: Memory units in astronomically-high numbers of gigabytes and terabytes. Bespoke: Memory units in totally incomprehensible units like kiloquads or exanodes.

My pet peeve one

Broke: measuring distance in millions / billions of kilometers

Woke: measuring distances in gigameters / terameters

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dubs lemmy.dbzer0.com dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-17
#84 · Quote Reply

Yes, it was an experience watching Torchwood and thinking it so hilarious all this stuff was happening in Wales. Made me reflect on how I never gave a second thought to how aliens only ever landed in the United States in all the time I've been watching shows about aliens. Though, to be fair, every once in a while, the (usually movie) wants us to know that the United States liberated THE ENTIRE ...
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yogurtwrong lemmy.world yogurtwrong@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#85 · Quote Reply

Takes off space helmet on alien planet, "the air is fine!"

"Oxygen-nitrogen atmosphere, suitable for humanoid life."

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NigelFrobisher aussie.zone NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-08-07
#86 · Quote Reply

Sun is called Sol.

Originally it was called Jimmy though.

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NigelFrobisher aussie.zone NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-08-07
#87 · (edited) Quote Reply

It’s “hard sci-fi”, so that means no lightspeed travel but also we’ve had cryo sleep since the 90s because obviously that’s so fucking easy to invent.

Also, lots of mixed culture names like Aleksander Ho because your genius prediction of the future is that people will intermarry.

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VindictiveJudge lemmy.world VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#88 · Quote Reply

In real life, the sun is called "Sol" and we are in the "Solar system" as in, sol-ar. Others are called star systems, some are named; "Polaris" is usually just called that instead of the "Polaris system" or the like Helios -&gt; Helios system follows this same logic.

Actually, our star's name is The Sun. We do call the system the Solar System, though.

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trxxruraxvr lemmy.world trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
#89 · Quote Reply

Are you spitballing like me or is this your field? Because you'd need to know the percentage of the metal present in the coin to weigh it; gold and silver are too soft be pure. That introduces problems of debasement, a coin from an earlier minting might have a higher content than a later printing, and multiply that by all the different city-states, and you have a potential headache.

It is not my field, so don't take it too serious. But I think I'm those times it was not doable for most people to test metals for purity, so that wouldn't have influenced it much unless it became noticable by eye (or biting)

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Super Mega Ultra Edition DX Unleashed 64 sh.itjust.works Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-07-18
#90 · Quote Reply

The warrior alien who solves problems through brute force, and struggles to understand Earth customs in comedic ways.

crunch

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DerEnder lemmus.org DerEnder@lemmus.org
Joined: 2026-08-13
#91 · Quote Reply

Or never specify. "That spacestation has massive computing power" "How big?" "Massive."

"This baby makes the NASA computer seems like a V-Tech."

Meanwhile at NASA, they compute simulations on like 2 PlayStation 3s... With a high accuracy.

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nullify3112 lemmy.world nullify3112@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-05
#92 · Quote Reply

Helios and Luna? You're mixing Greek and Latin nomenclature! My immersion is ruined!

Yep. It’s Sol, not Helios.

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JackbyDev programming.dev JackbyDev@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-13
#93 · Quote Reply

crunch

Why did you post a picture of a random empty background?

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JackbyDev programming.dev JackbyDev@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-13
#94 · Quote Reply

Actually, our star's name is The Sun. We do call the system the Solar System, though.

Sunar System

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JackbyDev programming.dev JackbyDev@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-13
#95 · Quote Reply

Slaps the superships central computer "This here runs on 12 bits of memory! Our engineers really outdone themselves with optimisation this time."

It only has one memory cell, but we've fully implemented real computation

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#96 · Quote Reply

It’s “hard sci-fi”, so that means no lightspeed travel but also we’ve had cryo sleep since the 90s because obviously that’s so fucking easy to invent. Also, lots of mixed culture names like Aleksander Ho because your genius prediction of the future is that people will intermarry.

no no no the name will be Ho Skywalker because they'll be named after jobs and fiction

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#97 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yep. It’s Sol, not Helios.

What if they were wrong about Selene, not Sol

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#98 · Quote Reply

Sunar System

Earther Systrem

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#99 · (edited) Quote Reply

Originally it was called Jimmy though.

Jimbo > Jimmy > Jim > Big Jim > James Sol > Big Gay Jim > Short Fat Jim > Little Gary > Jimothy > Jimward > Mothy Jim > Jimjim > Little Jim and finally Stankeye Jim

I'm no Astrologer, but I hear we're entering the age of Big Gay Jim.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#100 · Quote Reply

Farscape called currency... Currency...

i missed that. when i made a "dnd" (i forget which system) module, i named the money units "moneys". i mean we were all high except my wife, and she's contractually obligated to giggle at my jokes and the rest of us were high and giggly so it went over well. it's nice to know i thought up the same joke as farscape. we were probably inspired by the same thing, only i watched it like 30 years later because i'm me.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#101 · Quote Reply

There’s just so many more interesting options. Like what if the worms are their dollars?

what if their dollars are worms?

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