Fashion

Cricket.

Kids these days

Linux. I don’t want “using the computer” to turn into a hobby that I need a computer science degree for.

I never learned how to swim and I don't particularly care to learn

Greed. Ignorance. Intolerance.

Your workout, food, or personal hygiene regimen.

Exploitation, expropriation, or extortion.

Your subjective experience of opening a box, playing a video game, or viewing media.

There's so many options for Linux though. Mint is super beginner friendly and doesn't focus on the terminal. You don't have to set up Arch your first time around.

Thank you for confirming that, yes, we are on lemmy.

Must be a sailor

That's one of the reasons I switched from Windows to Linux.

Every single patch and every single version upgrade made using worse as all the settings changed weirder and weirder and hidden or missing.

Tiktok and ai chatbots.

Streamer culture and Vtuber culture.

I can't ever tell what is critical to people. I got my wife her first MacBook last year. She's used it three times and hates it. I'm like.... red yellow green, and everything else is just like iPhone. Nope, she despises it.

I moved my daughter from windows to Linux Mint, and she barely noticed. She can't use her VR the same way, and that was the only difference that bothered her.

So I can't say you wouldn't hate Linux, but I can tell you I don't want my hobby to be fucking with OSes and Mint was perfect. You can just use it. Steam games, browsing the web, damn near everything works exactly the way you'd expect on Windows. I don't happen to need a second computer after my work MacBook, but if I did it would be Linux for sure.

Well, except no OneDrive. Which another point in Linux's favor.

I put Ubuntu on my MacBook a few weeks ago.

Learning how to use a Linux distribution like Mint doesn’t require any special degree or knowledge. I’d say you can do that in a weekend or so. Especially since you can ask the AI about everything and it’s surprisingly good at Linux questions and terminal commands, although you don’t really need those for Mint.

If you’ve never been into Microslop Windows, navigating their piece of shit os can be equally as daunting since you are not free to do what you want, you can only do what MS want you to do which is completely counterintuitive to what Linux is.

Just because something is the market leader, doesn’t make it good or better than the alternative.

I get that you don’t care for Linux, and that’s fine but if you are the slightest interested in IT, you’re doing yourself a disservice not learning it.

I hear where you are coming from, but you just said "Use AI" on Lemmy. This should be fun 😁

Religion. Even when I've taken the time to look up the difference is between a Catholic and a Christian, or a Shia and a Sunni, it seems like within minutes at most, that knowledge just sublimates.

Anything that goes against Common sense or sciene.

Especially the latter. Most stuff is undrstandable by school knowledge. But they choose to Not believe that. I Just cannot get it.

difference is between a Catholic and a Christian

Not sure if the error was intentional to make the point that you don't care, but Catholics are the largest denomination of Christianity, rather than an alternative to it.

I don’t think you know at all where I’m coming from. You don’t seem to understand how great AI are at documentation. I’d rather ask an AI than browse the mint forums reading decades old threads that won’t lead to anything anyways. That’s just wasting time. What’s your argument?

Furries. No hate, just not even remotely interested.

Lifestyle channels and blogs. This type of content is often very consumeristic. Unless it’s in an educational/informative context, I don’t have an interest in watching strangers have experiences that I could be having myself.

denomination

Yeah, thats what I thought

Thats why I dont watch porn.

Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.

• Albert Einstein

Bazzite is super easy to use and sets everything up for you.

I don't like using it because it doesn't allow you to mess with your computer as much as I like to, but that makes it perfect for normal people.

Mint has an AI? Wow, now I hate Mint

lol no. That's now what I said at all. I was refering to chatgpt, claude of what ever flavour of AI you wanna use...

Oh, I hate all of those because of all the murders they keep committing. Young and vulnerable people go to them looking for help with homework and end up being talked into isolation and suicide.

Which one is "literally just legally distinct windows 10"?

Zeus is the most important but he sucks. Poseidon is in charge of the sea and he really likes sinking ships. Hades is in charge of you when you're dead. Artemis and Athena are both aroace, but Artemis like platonic bathing with her besties while Athena prefers maps. Everyone hates Ares but not as much as Hephaestus, Hera will kill you if you cheat on your wife, and Hestia and Dionysus can't agree which one is more important. Some people say Persephone is a victim, but the truth is she's ruled the underworld a lot longer than her husband has. Demeter is not supportive.

Much of the outrage culture online is rather foreign to me. It's not necessarily that I don't "get" it but I simply can't relate with the people who engage in it. Writing angry messages about certain people and events, having people pat me on the back for sharing views that they agree with and reading other people sharing these same same views just seems like some kind of fart smelling gathering which simply just doesn't appeal to me. It's all just meaningless noise. That kind of "conversation" could go on forever and it wouldn't ever achieve anything.

Streaming gaming. I barely game (almost never), so the idea of watching others do it as entertainment is bizzare to me.

I'm cleary in a minority, my kids do it and I'm told it's akin to watching sports, but whatever - i'm just answering the question Goddamit!

I'm a furry and even I don't get most furries, haha!

Like, I'm here to be an animal. I heard "people who like to be animals" and went "whoa, sign me up!" and it turns out a lot of furries DON'T like to be animals, they just... pretend to be animals but "oh that's a character not really me" and they still consider themselves human...?... also they're only half-human-half-animals, not actual animal shape either?... I don't get it

turns out most of the actual "I'm just an animal" animals are the therians instead (once I found them I decided I'd be both). I'm still a non-character, non-anthropomorphic (the furry jargon for normal animal shape is "feral") furry though, and the anthro furries can just deal. :3

-- Frost

Anything with the KDE desktop!

That's a neat thing about Linux, the look and feel is actually totally separate from the distro. Everyone focuses on distros when really, that's mostly under-the-hood stuff, the look and feel is the desktop environment.

KDE is windows-10-like (out of the box, you can also rearrange the crap out of it, ours is set up more like Mac!) and also happens to be one of the most full-featured desktop environments, so you won't be missing stuff (like HDR support or whatever).

So, a distro with KDE.

Debian is great if you want something that Does Not Break on you. Ever. It will never throw you a curveball with an update. That also means you just won't really get updates very much, outside of a Big Major Upgrade every couple of years. If you're tired of Windows Update screwing with you, Debian's perfect.

Fedora is pretty good if you want the new shinies all the time. Major updates every 6 months. Debian has a bigger appstore and even stuff that isn't in there often provides .deb packages, which Fedora can't run, but it's not a huge deal.

Mint doesn't have a convenient KDE version (but you can install KDE after the fact). It has its own desktop called Cinnamon. More Windows 7 vibes. It's based on Debian so you get the Debian compatibility, as well, and they put work into making sure you have GUI apps for stuff like installing drivers (Debian you might need a terminal command or three during initial setup).

There's also immutable distros like Bazzite, which is basically SteamOS But Desktop. It also comes with similar restrictions to SteamOS, though. Good for an Appliance Computer, an absolute fucking pain if you ever need to install drivers/VR stuff/other system software or what-have-you. I'd avoid for your main computer.

-- Frost

I only watch educational/informative porn

The Dutch make a distinction between Catholic and Christian.

You've just lost 90 percent of the population. They didn't understand a word you said. That's the problem with Linux and its developers. They assume people know all this stuff.

don't really understand spectator sports either

@starlinguk @forestbeasts meh... he wanted to give you all the info and all the options,, that may be confusing for someone that only option was windows until now... Nowadays I dont give options, just try Kubuntu and see if you like it.

I mean, I could just go "TLDR grab Debian's live KDE edition" if that's easier!

The whole point in me explaining all that is that people don't know all this stuff. That's why I'm explaining it. I did gloss over the fact that distros exist, but it seems like the person I'm replying to already knows that multiple versions of Linux are a thing so that's not a huge issue.

And going "here's some options to pick from" helps if it turns out you've got different priorities than we do. But yeah, "TLDR Debian" is also good if you're overwhelmed.

looks surprised

goes to check Dutch Wikipedia

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katholicisme

Using Google Translate to convert the overview to English, I get:

Catholicism is considered the largest movement within Christianity. The term derives from the word "catholic" and comes from the Greek (καθολικός - katholikos), meaning general or universal. The term "catholic" was first used in the context of the church by Ignatius of Antioch. In a letter to the Christians of Smyrna in 107, he wrote: "Where Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."[1]

Catholicism is united by two creeds, the Apostles' Creed and the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed, and can be divided into:

Christians who unite under the Bishop of Rome (the Pope): Roman Catholics

Other Christians who call themselves Catholic

That sounds like they're classifying it the same way I'd normally see it in the English-speaking world.

Owenfromcanada: I dont want to know anything about furrys

Forestbeast: super detailed descriptions of furry culture

Student: Is there any way I can get an A on my test Professor??
Professor: Take your clothes off.

I've always felt like the wrong sports are popular (both to participate in and to watch)

Since the Olympics were on recently, I found myself watching a lot of luge, skeleton, etc. That looks like a fucking blast.

A well put-together marching band or drum corps show is something to behold.

Once in a while you can find a lumberjack competition - log rolling, 2 person crosscut saws, climbing trees with an axe, etc.

But instead of cool stuff like that, we want to watch people fight over a ball.

Sports culture. Betting, fantasy leagues, statistics. I immediately flatline if the conversation turns to it

Space science. I'm well educated with lots of nerdy friends, and I should know the basics of physics concerning planets and stuff. But I don't and I refuse to.

I love that two people felt the need to down vote you for this.

I think a lot of Linux people really do more harm than good when they try to sell people on Linux. Some of it is because they wildly overestimate how much the average person knows about computers, and some of it is just over sharing.

I've been using Linux for about half a year now. I'm a slightly above-average computer user, but not some kind of programming prodigy. I've had one significant hiccup when I was first installing it, which you probably won't have because that was a weird quirk of my specific 10+ year old motherboard.

After that everything has pretty much been smooth sailing. 99% of my general computer use is exactly the same as on Windows (though to be fair, I've been big on free software for a long time so I was using stuff like libre office and gimp instead of Microsoft office and Photoshop already)

I haven't yet run into a steam game that won't run for me. One or two of them I had to add a launch option or choose a different proton version, and I figured that out by basically just googling "steam Linux game name" and a couple keywords about the problem I was having like "audio stuttering," and the first search result had the fix.

Some games even run better for me now (mostly they're about the same, some are very slightly worse)

If you use a lot of mods, they can be a bit of a pain in the ass to figure out how to get them running, but it's usually doable, and once you do it's done and you don't have to do it again.

If you rely on specific windows-only software, usually you can get it running with WINE. That does take some figuring-out. But again, once it's done, it's done.

And overall my computer runs better and boots up faster without all the windows bloat.

It also breathed new life into my parents computer, and they're tech-illiterate, retired, old people. They've had no issues with it so far.

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In case that convinced anyone to give it a try, here's my recommendations.

1. Think about what software on your computer you use. See if there's a Linux compatible alternative. Try that out, see if you can live with it. Do this before you ever even think about making a Linux USB.

2. Pick a Distro - here's where a lot of guides fall apart I think. I'll make it easy. If you're primarily a gamer, go ahead and choose bazzite. If you're looking for a general computer to browse the web, do your homework, etc. choose whichever flavor of Ubuntu (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.) or Linux Mint (which is ubuntu-based) looks prettiest to you. Don't think too hard about it, don't do too much research about the pros and cons of different desktop environments, don't listen to the people who have some moral and philosophical bones to pick about Ubuntu. Just go by vibes. It's stable, it works, it's about as well-supported and documented as it gets, and if you do have a problem, you'll find the answers in the Ubuntu forums without too much searching.

3. Put that on a flash drive, and just run off of that for a week or two. See if you can live with it. Bear in mind it will probably be a bit slower running off the flash drive than it will be once it's actually installed. Play around with it, you can't really break anything unless you purposely go rooting around in your windows hard drive and start deleting shit willi-nilly. If you absolutely hate it, just pull the flash drive out and forget about it.

4. If you decide you like it, take a deep breath and go ahead and install it.

Yeah, I think I find it boring because it's not interactive. It has the same level of interestingness as geology