Is time flowing in reverse? I swear this was a thing ten years ago.

A young woman once did comment positively on my scent while I was perspiring lightly, but I had showered previously, so that probably helped the most.

Let them. Better odds for the rest of us.

It's the same Naturalist fallacy that health-and-wellness hucksters love to pitch to people. Another one I loved was "don't wash your hair, that causes baldness", leading to an entire graduating class of college kids going around with bedhead for a year or three.

It’s called Stank Booty here where I live, and it’s quite the cock block actually.

Any excuse to not have to wash your ass, boys. 🙄

Look, be clean and don't smell like sweat. But it's not always a good idea to go crazy with cologne either. I've had one person tell me that my natural scent was extremely attractive.

As always, it's entirely dependent on you and who you're trying to impress.

"Yeah, ladies, once you get a deep whiff of my good old American masculine STANK, you'll be putty in my hands."

• Some Smelly Incel.

I can't speak for anyone else but I can tell you when I look for a partner the main deal breaker is if they don't shower often enough. I don't want to smell Eau de Ass in my daily life.

Is this just a feed back loop for incels? Woman rejects them at first date because they smell terribly and they have new "evidence" of all women hating them?

Definitely a big difference between fresh sweat on a clean, healthy person and STANK!

A friend of mine used to do something similar. He skipped using deodorant and just sprayed himself with perfume. Because of the pheromone thing. As someone once thought me "the aroma + the stink = the odour".

The pheromones thing does have some basis in science, but it mostly applies to ANIMALS who use scent as the PRIMARY INDICATOR they're biologically ready for mating. As humans we have the ability to communicate verbally which kinda superscedes any need for that mechanism. That said, I have noticed that after dating someone and being around them for a period of time you do start to form a positive correlation between their natural scent and happiness, security, etc. Note that's natural scent, not sweaty-ass BO. I've had several partners that would love to "smell" me and tell me I smell good even though I wasn't wearing any specific colonges or other fragrances. It takes time for that positive correlation to form though, so It's probably not going to do you any good on your first fucking date.

Boys, remember Pépé Le Pew. Some pheromones say, "Back off! Run!"

i had no idea if you don’t have a shower before a date you instantly turn into a smelly monster

is this an american thing specifically?

I think I was healthy back then too

Not sure if it's an American thing but definitely a some men thing.

It's almost like they want their fanbase to remain single and sexually frustrated

Now they're even easier to spot.

People attracted to guys - you're better than that, avoid

The expectation is you shower every day. The assumption is if you did not shower that day, you stink.

It was an easy way to get downvotes on reddit: just say I shower ever 3-5 days and don't stink and people would just assume I did stink and that it is impossible for the human body not to sink without a daily shower.

Sometimes I'd even experiment and say I wash my pits daily and use a bidet. That helped a little, but not a lot. It has to be full body immersion in a shower, or it is ineffective according to the common wisdom.

Edit: i see it's not limited to reddit lol

"Some kids are eating tide pods!" energy

What I use to do, which worked well for me.

IF date starts at 8:00pm
THEN

• groom, scrub, shampoo, condition, etc. at 3:00PM then wash and clean you car's interiors (if applicable)
• thoroughly shower rinse (no soap). Only use soap (unscented) to wash your genitals and butt again at 6:30-7:00
• I sometimes used a mix of coconut oil with clove essential oil on my clavicles and side of my ribs if I wanted a very subtle scent at 'tongue-to-skin" distance.

Stank, whether is due to lack of hygiene or overly perfumed soaps, shampoos, hair products, etc. is just unpleasant. I preferred for my partners to remember and desire my scent, not dirty stank, not some cologne, and not the soap/shampoo.

EDIT: The placement of the essential oil or any othe scent is important because nobody likes the taste of perfumes, essential oils, etc.

In Texas we say that person smells like whataburger.

Is this better or worse than dousing in Axe?

I honestly support this. If your future partner dislikes your natural scent, it'll cause all sorts of annoyances downstream. I mean, don't go a week without it, but why do we all peacock so hard instead of just fuckin relaxing with each other? It's not really a wonder the divorce rate is over 50% with modern life, is it?

Yep. Just like all male influencer advice. It's a pit of despair you can only keep falling down so long as you keep taking their advice

The smell is literally bacteria shit.

Dead skin cells and oils consumed, shat out, and increasingly an odour issue the longer it piles up. There is no other contributors here. Body odour is bacteria poop and they're not flushing.

No, please shower before dates. Please. No need to cover your natural scent with cologne, but the natural scent should be a cleanish one.

I’ve definitely dated women who smelled better than others, some of whom I very much liked their smell, others not so much. Dated one stinky lady who was an awful kisser, and we broke up for other reasons (bad kissing was due to a super weird/aggressive technique, not not smell or chemistry).

This has had near zero correlation of overall attractiveness or suitability though. Especially given that most of the time you shower near daily, and if you’re not showering for an extended period you’re usually both not showered and go smell blind.

Nah. I don't see any need to peacock at all. I'll remain hygenic, but you don't need to shower constantly to achieve that, and "your natural scent should be a cleanish one" is such a privledged position lol. I could go on a tangent, but I honestly just don't see any problem with anyone acting any way they would like at all before a date. If you as the receiving party don't like it, gtfo and move on. That's literally the purpose of dating, to find compatibility, not to change each other.

People really need to learn that everyone's bodies are different. Personally, I've found that buzzing off body hair does wonders for the perception of my cleanliness. Doesn't matter how much I scrub, the smell sticks to the hair. When it's not ungodly hot out, I could (and had to one extremely busy work week) go almost a week without showering.

Men are animals, same as women. There's people who can't handle dating an animal, and I get it, but makeup on a pig just makes it look pathetic. I would rather kiss the pig, warts and all or be alone, but kiss a pig that looks like a clown and smells like petrochemicals? Now that is a turnoff.

Basic hygiene is peacocking now?

If you're seeking dates and have the disposable income to meet someone out for dinner and drinks, yeah, take a shower within 24-48 hours of that date.

That's not a wild suggestion.

Brev, humans are bacterial colonies with an ego.

If I shower because I've been sweating, it's because I itch; I don't smell worse for sweating--at least not if I'm using deoderant.

Showing prior to an event is not basic hygiene. I don't know who told you that but most people in America shower too often and damage their skin, don't take my word for it just do some actual research with dermatologists instead of following whatever dead brain rinse and repeat shower commercial you're rotting your mind with.

Also I don't seek women, I'm gay, and yes a shower every 48 hours is recommended but that's not what is specified here, what's specified is one right before the date, and omg do you have the nuclear hetronormitive mindset 😂.

Your suggestions are bad and contain all sorts of preconceived bais, so yes, they're wild.

Of everything the manosphere is promoting, this is the most mundane and harmless shit ever.

When they promote>
Misogyny, doing crack, heck doing a shetload of drugs, narcissism, hitting your face with a hammer, nihilism

no showers.. is.. .. so benign by comparison. jeez

Let men be monkeys please, and try not to push them into a corner about stupid harmless shet.
If you're going to corner monke, do so for something worth fighting a cornered animal for.

shower within 24-48 hours of that date.

Showering within 2 days of the event is showering too often?

I edited my comment to "people" within a minute of posting instead because you're right, not all men date women.

Do you even read, or just get mad?

In Ireland we say that person smells like shit

Right back at ya. You immediately assumed I was suggesting that one should shower immediately before a date every time without actually understanding my comment.

I'm not fighting you on this. Keep not showering and see how that works for dating.

I never said you suggested that, that's what the post suggested in the meme?... Jfc. Also I'm happily partnered, remain hygenic, and shower when necessary. You're so interested in being upset you don't even gage my position on the manner, but hey, keep being fake. See how well that life works out for you.

Disgusting men somehow become more disgusting; more at 11

First they embraced the debunked Alpha Wolf shit. Now they think humans still have pheromone receptors.

Yah, wtf are people on about. How stinky are these mfs where they need to shower BEFORE A DATE?! I’ve NEVER showered before a date. If you shower every day or every other day, you shouldn’t be a stink person, especially not enough to necessitate showering AGAIN BEFORE A DATE. I don’t wanna go out with someone and have them smell like chemicals or flowers or potpourri or some shit. I want them to smell like person.

I’m with my forever partner now so we won’t shower for a week, and they always smell good to me uwu

"Your natural scent should be a cleanish one" is such a privledged position.

Wut... Privileged how? Because some people don't have access to showers? Because some people can't afford soap? I'm not seeing it.

And if you don't see a problem going on a date without showering or changing into fresh clothes or "acting any way they would at all before the date" then you don't get to complain that women are to picky, they have every right to be. There's a stark difference between "being yourself" and "deceiving someone to get laid".

I have never been complemented for smelling like shit but a shower and some light cologne always does the trick.

This is like wearing undiluted skatole. Some things shouldn't be maxxxxxxxed.

God Bless Ireland~

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