The fuck are you talking about?

Really? I thought it was funny that on a comment about a guy objectifying a woman that a bunch of guys are somehow objectifying her further in an attempt to virtue signal how cool they are with a natural look.

"It's ok, ladies! Even if this incel doesn't find you hot, I still find you hot!"

Friendly reminder that on X, the everything app with Super Grok, posts can be monetized. So it's all fabricated shit mixed with stupidity to maximize engagement.

I know everyone's sick of me saying it but that dude is probably a low-key transphobe.

Most incels are. They hate women and trans women are women.

Could be. Answering the clarifying questions I asked might clear that up.

Bingo. Transphobia allows them to exert misogyny on an "acceptable" target while also policing femininity in a broader sense.

He has the tone of a guy trying to pull a political Uno-reverse gotcha... but I can't actually tell what the fuck he's trying to draw an allusion to?

Like, is this supposed to be an equivalent of "woman decides she doesn't want sex, persuing it anyway is sexual assault"? Is that supposed to be similar in any way? Is it supposed to be... something about Trans people? Somehow? I'm just not sure what he's even going for...

There was a thing a while ago about how men who lied about who they were to get laid, namely pick-up artists, were committing sexual assault. The manosphere responded with stuff like this, suggesting that women who wore make-up, spanx and padded bras were also committing assault.

This argument is stupid either way of course... But I find the picture on the right way more attractive.

TBH I'm not super knowledgable about makeup, but the look on the left side, or something more or less like it, is pretty common in like celebrity spaces, porn etc., and it definitely wasn't quite like this 20 years ago. Maralago face is one variant, but the general style seems broader than that to me.

But I find the picture on the right way more attractive.

"Don't worry, ladies! This incel finds you ugly, but I find you attractive!"

I'm just expressing my opinion, but okay, sure.

You're expressing your opinion just like Jeremy is in the post.

For a complete stranger, you seem to think you've got me all figured out. While we're throwing accusations around, you come across as really defensive and needlessly confrontational.

I'm responding to you doing the exact same thing as the man in the post.

I'm convinced these people don't actually like women. Sounds weird typing that out, but you'd have to be an absolute fool to not understand the context around make up in society and what attractive looks like.

Am I though?

You are. Jeremy is objectifying this woman and so are you. It's not about what is more attractive to men.

As a victim of rape, I cannot put into words how insulting this is

Ragebait gobshites. What they say is irrelevant so long as they get attention (like and subscribe, everyone). It's all for money.

They still wear tons of makeup, especially right wing ones like this guy

The left hand image looks fake. Mainly because the ceiling has major water stains like she's in an abandoned building! But yeah, it's all about the money.

Part of the premise of the original post is about what is more attractive to men, and expressing a preference against makeup is a logically valid way to contradict its argument (while also being a faux pas that context does not defend against). The whole thing is obvious bait and you're both falling for it.

Haven't picked up that I've got a habit of calling out these kinds of faux pas? I'm aware of what I'm doing. I don't have much patience for men thinking they're better than others for making the same kind of objectifying statements about women.

This isn't about what men want or what makes their dicks hard.

Velma will post “Nobody cares what makes your dick hard.” and “I’m lying in bed thinking about women” in the same thread. You’re not the problem right now.

Edit: Sorry, it was “Can confirm, I am also thinking about the waitress with big tits while laying in bed.”

https://lemmy.world/post/50398336/25177012

https://lemmy.world/post/50398336/25171603

No u

Women aren't allowed to make jokes now?

Stripping context from statements is real useful in twisting them to whatever you want them to mean.

You post so much. Please don’t make me go dig up the context.

Yeah I posted "I'm also lying in bed thinking about that woman" on a meme. That statement is only talking about my internal thoughts and doesn't saying anything about the woman or what I think she should look like or change to appease what I want.

Go ahead. Go digging.

You're so close.

The context for your comments are right here.

That's one of the craziest takes I have ever heard ngl. You should take that to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

I'd be disappointed if I was expecting the woman on the right and the one on the left showed up, but not enough to call it sexual assault, that's wild

https://lemmy.world/post/50398336/25177012

https://lemmy.world/post/50398336/25171603

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Yeah, the first comment I'm responding to someone comparing women's tits to cow's milk glands. Literally dehumanizing women with large breasts.

The second comment is my own personal thoughts on appreciating that fictional woman in the meme. It's not comparing her to anything or saying that she would be more attractive if she did XYZ or that I like her better a certain way.

You can't comprehend the difference between the two?

I can't imagine that this is controversial. The OP doesn't make any sense to me.

Yeah, the first comment I'm responding to someone comparing women's tits to cow's milk glands. Literally dehumanizing women with large breasts.

The second comment is my own personal thoughts on appreciating that fictional woman in the meme. It's not comparing her to anything or saying that she would be more attractive if she did XYZ or that I like her better a certain way.

You can't comprehend the difference between the two?

When someone else shares their thoughts on a woman, they're fucked up and evil. When I do it, I'm just expressing my opinion.

TIL thanks.

Sharing that you prefer the woman in the image without makeup is different than saying you find her attractive.

Do you understand the difference?

Well IMO that means this Twitter asshole's attempt at trolling is a success, which is a shame

Eh trolling the trolls can be fun.

Not really, since the entire point is that “Jeremy” calls it SA

Oh, for sure, doing your hair and makeup has absolutely nothing to do with trying to make yourself more attractive to men when you are a straight woman. Very valuable insight, thanks

Agreed in a 100 % non-objectifying way (as you are as well). Velma can go kick rocks.

Jeremy Stamper has never been seduced.

What I mean by trolling here is, deliberately inciting other people to have the desired argument amongst themselves. OOP isn't affected or aware of anything we say, it's completely one-sided.