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LadyButterfly she/her piefed.blahaj.zone ![]() LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-06-10 |
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gjoel programming.dev gjoel@programming.dev Joined: 2024-04-09 |
Isn't that usually how infestations work though? |
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judgy_jackdaw lemmy.world ![]() judgy_jackdaw@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-06-02 |
then what does ever infest anything |
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Zaphod discuss.tchncs.de Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Isn't that usually how infestations work though?
Aren't infestations about something that wasn't there before and doesn't actually belong there? |
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AngryCommieKender lemmy.world AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-02 |
then what does ever infest anything
Bedbugs, human habitations. |
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Mouselemming sh.itjust.works Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-12 |
Isn't that usually how infestations work though?
Humans infest shark habitats. You don't see sharks coming into your gated community, do you? |
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gjoel programming.dev gjoel@programming.dev Joined: 2024-04-09 |
Humans infest shark habitats. You don't see sharks coming into your gated community, do you?
No, sharks rarely infest gated communities. The point was that infestations usually consist of animals that live in the place they are undesired. |
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gjoel programming.dev gjoel@programming.dev Joined: 2024-04-09 |
Aren't infestations about something that wasn't there before and doesn't actually belong there?
But live there though. |
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Viking_Hippie lemmy.dbzer0.com Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-04 |
Humans infest shark habitats. You don't see sharks coming into your gated community, do you?
Would be a rad way to thin out the herd of xenophobic rich people, though đ€ |
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SnoopSqueak lemmy.today ![]() SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-07-09 |
No, sharks rarely infest gated communities. The point was that infestations usually consist of animals that live in the place they are undesired.
No, the point is that indigenous populations are not infesting their own natural habitats. For example, "Native Americans" did not "infest" the United States. White people did. |
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RobotToaster mander.xyz ![]() RobotToaster@mander.xyz Joined: 2023-09-13 |
I'm taking this far too seriously for a meme, but I already looked it up out of curiosity so ÂŻâ \â _â (â ăâ )â _â /â ÂŻ
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/infest Interestingly (at least to me) it looks like it's related to "manifest'. |
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gjoel programming.dev gjoel@programming.dev Joined: 2024-04-09 |
No, the point is that indigenous populations are not infesting their own natural habitats. For example, "Native Americans" did not "infest" the United States. White people did.
That's a different point though. If you have a termite infestation, you might say that they're invasive to the house and it's not their natural element. However you might also say that they live there, which is equally true. |
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Ignotum lemmy.world ignotum@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I'm taking this far too seriously for a meme, but I already looked it up out of curiosity so ÂŻâ \â _â (â ăâ )â _â /â ÂŻ To inhabit a place in unpleasantly large numbers; to plague, harass. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/infest Interestingly (at least to me) it looks like it's related to "manifest'.
Ah so i can say "human infested planet" then |
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TRock feddit.dk TRock@feddit.dk Joined: 2025-03-27 |
Ah so i can say "human infested planet" then
Yep |
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bobo lemmy.ml bobo@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-08-15 |
No, the point is that indigenous populations are not infesting their own natural habitats. For example, "Native Americans" did not "infest" the United States. White people did.
Do you imagine the various indigenous populations of Americas popped out of the ground like mushrooms? They're pretty far from their "natural habitat" in the plains of sub-saharan Africa... Or is that too far back in history and their "natural habitat" is in Siberia and Polynesia? |
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quediuspayu lemmy.dbzer0.com quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-02-06 |
Aren't infestations about something that wasn't there before and doesn't actually belong there?
No, it is about their presence being wanted or not. I don't want to go to a swamp because is infested with mosquitoes for example, mosquitoes were always there. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/infestation |
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rumba lemmy.zip rumba@lemmy.zip Joined: 2024-09-24 |
infest 1 2 |
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elucubra sopuli.xyz elucubra@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-03 |
infest verb in·âfest in-Ëfest infested; infesting; infests Synonyms of infest transitive verb 1 : to spread or swarm in or over in a troublesome manner shark-infested waters 2 : to live in or on as a parasite
Oktober-fest; 1 : to spread or swarm in or over in a troublesome manner buxom-waitress-in traditional-dress infested waters 2 : to live in or on as a completely smashed parasite |
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Godric lemmy.world ![]() Godric@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
infest verb in·âfest in-Ëfest infested; infesting; infests Synonyms of infest transitive verb 1 : to spread or swarm in or over in a troublesome manner shark-infested waters 2 : to live in or on as a parasite
Shut up! Termites just live there! |
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Godric lemmy.world ![]() Godric@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Oktober-fest; 1 : to spread or swarm in or over in a troublesome manner buxom-waitress-in traditional-dress infested waters 2 : to live in or on as a completely smashed parasite
Shut up! Germans just live there! |
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im_fine_sandy nord.pub im_fine_sandy@nord.pub Joined: 2026-08-05 |
Actually marinas like the one pictured or "canal estates" often create environments that become "infested" with pests and predators. Some of which for example contain bull sharks in plague proportions. Yes sharks live in the ocean but anyone living next to a canal teaming with them would conclude that there is an "investation". Bull sharks are unique in that they can somehow retain salt from ocean / salt / brackish water which allows them to operate in fresh water. They're also more aggressive than other species, or perhaps just more likely to grab at movement in murky river water. I remember watching a documentary suggesting that bull shark attacks might have been the inspiration for the Jaws series, after a spate of attacks in estuaries in the US in the years prior. Jeremy Wade on River Monsters TV series also had an episode about them. |
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Danarchy lemmy.nz Danarchy@lemmy.nz Joined: 2025-12-07 |
This is why festivals are called that all teeming with wretched humans and their various parasites |
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Rothe piefed.social Rothe@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-25 |
No, it is about their presence being wanted or not. I don't want to go to a swamp because is infested with mosquitoes for example, mosquitoes were always there. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/infestation https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/infest
We are aware of the dictionary definition. OP was precisely about arguing that that definition is a based on a fallacy. |
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ChickenLadyLovesLife lemmy.world ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Shut up! Germans just live there!
Yeah, it's just their lebensraum, nothing to be concerned about at all. |
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Uli sopuli.xyz Uli@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Ah so i can say "human infested planet" then
"Welcome to my me-infested home." |
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anon_8675309 lemmy.world anon_8675309@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-01 |
This is why festivals are called that all teeming with wretched humans and their various parasites
Infest-ivals? |
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SpaceScotsman startrek.website SpaceScotsman@startrek.website Joined: 2023-09-25 |
Human infested cities. Cat infested cafés. Cattle infested farms. |
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quediuspayu lemmy.dbzer0.com quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-02-06 |
We are aware of the dictionary definition. OP was precisely about arguing that that definition is a based on a fallacy.
Where is the fallacy? |
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Midnitte beehaw.org Midnitte@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-01 |
We also kill millions of sharks per year, while they're responsible for maybe 10 human deaths per year (worldwide). |
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Peppycito sh.itjust.works ![]() Peppycito@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-03 |
I'm taking this far too seriously for a meme, but I already looked it up out of curiosity so ÂŻâ \â _â (â ăâ )â _â /â ÂŻ To inhabit a place in unpleasantly large numbers; to plague, harass. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/infest Interestingly (at least to me) it looks like it's related to "manifest'.
Puts a new spin on Manifest Destiny. |
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hansolo lemmy.today ![]() hansolo@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-07 |
Bro, the way I'm infesting my pants right now... |
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Natanael infosec.pub Natanael@infosec.pub Joined: 2025-01-18 |
No, sharks rarely infest gated communities. The point was that infestations usually consist of animals that live in the place they are undesired.
A zoo is a gated community |
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sun_is_ra sh.itjust.works sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-15 |
Human infested cities. Cat infested cafés. Cattle infested farms.
Humans infested every place including oceans honestly |
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BossDj piefed.social ![]() BossDj@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Where is the fallacy?
Present where they are unwanted, but often used to describe their natural habitat. |
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SnoopSqueak lemmy.today ![]() SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-07-09 |
For example, "Native Americans" did not "infest" the United States. White people did. Do you imagine the various indigenous populations of Americas popped out of the ground like mushrooms? They're pretty far from their "natural habitat" in the plains of sub-saharan Africa... Or is that too far back in history and their "natural habitat" is in Siberia and Polynesia?
It's not that they came from nowhere, but rather that they aren't pests. Invaders slaughtered them and colonized the country, and in modern times are actively destroying ecosystems and the environment. |
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SnoopSqueak lemmy.today ![]() SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-07-09 |
That's a different point though. If you have a termite infestation, you might say that they're invasive to the house and it's not their natural element. However you might also say that they live there, which is equally true.
But the post is about sharks in the ocean. It is their natural habitat, they live there, but because they're sometimes inconvenient to humans, humans sometimes use the phrase "shark-infested waters", which can be damaging because it frames disrupting the ecosystem as some kind of defensive act. |
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Lushed_Lungfish lemmy.ca Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-02-14 |
Humans infested every place including oceans honestly
Humans are a disease. You are a cancer on this planet. Edit: Are we so old, you and I, that no one else gets the Matrix ref? |
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Mouselemming sh.itjust.works Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-12 |
No, the point is that indigenous populations are not infesting their own natural habitats. For example, "Native Americans" did not "infest" the United States. White people did.
Yes the white folks came and made a mess of the place. Which, if sharks chose to move into your house, they would also do. Probably leave the taps running all over the place too |
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Mouselemming sh.itjust.works Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-12 |
If you have a termite infestation, you might say that they're invasive to the house and it's not their natural element. However you might also say that they live there, which is equally true. But the post is about sharks in the ocean. It is their natural habitat, they live there, but because they're sometimes inconvenient to humans, humans sometimes use the phrase "shark-infested waters", which...
And my point was it's the humans that don't belong and cause damage and yet there have been humans infesting the oceans since time immemorial and it's only getting worse. |
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Mouselemming sh.itjust.works Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-12 |
A zoo is a gated community
Valid point. Although that's without their consent, whereas most humans infesting the ocean are choosing to remain there, USS Abraham Lincoln sailors notwithstanding. |
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MajorMajormajormajor lemmy.ca MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Yeah, it's just their lebensraum, nothing to be concerned about at all.
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SnoopSqueak lemmy.today ![]() SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-07-09 |
And my point was it's the humans that don't belong and cause damage and yet there have been humans infesting the oceans since time immemorial and it's only getting worse.
Right, I agree with you. I was responding to gjoel's comments. |
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MajorMajormajormajor lemmy.ca MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Puts a new spin on Manifest Destiny.
One man's infestation is another man's colonisation. |
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MajorMajormajormajor lemmy.ca MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
A zoo is a gated community
Damn snobbish animals living in gated communities. |
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gjoel programming.dev gjoel@programming.dev Joined: 2024-04-09 |
No, the point is that indigenous populations are not infesting their own natural habitats. For example, "Native Americans" did not "infest" the United States. White people did.
So the right phrasing would be "no, it's their natural habitat", not "no, they live there", since, and this was my point if you go back, if an animal infests something it usually lives there, making the point in the post redundant. |
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gjoel programming.dev gjoel@programming.dev Joined: 2024-04-09 |
A zoo is a gated community
And sharks regularly infest zoos? |
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quediuspayu lemmy.dbzer0.com quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-02-06 |
Present where they are unwanted, but often used to describe their natural habitat.
I see. The word infested has nothing to do with being their natural habitats or not, it means that there's plenty of an animal we don't want for whatever reason, otherwise we would say that it is rich in those animals. Edit: Oh, second I see. The fallacy is that they are using a wrong definition that is creeping into a common use of the word not yet in the dictionary. |
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Natanael infosec.pub Natanael@infosec.pub Joined: 2025-01-18 |
And sharks regularly infest zoos?
Wouldn't you if you were a shark? It's a whole smörgÄsbord |
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johnyreeferseed lemmy.dbzer0.com johnyreeferseed@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-06 |
Actually marinas like the one pictured or "canal estates" often create environments that become "infested" with pests and predators. Some of which for example contain bull sharks in plague proportions. Yes sharks live in the ocean but anyone living next to a canal teaming with them would conclude that there is an "investation". Bull sharks are unique in that they can somehow retain salt from oc...
I just watched a movie last week where these people where exploring a freshwater cave and then became trapped by a shark. I thought it was some stupid movie detail, didn't know it might actually be possible. |
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BenLeMan lemmy.world BenLeMan@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-15 |
Humans are a disease. You are a cancer on this planet. Edit: Are we so old, you and I, that no one else gets the Matrix ref?
Calm down there, AI clanker. |
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rizzothesmall sh.itjust.works rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-22 |
Not like this Palestinian infested west bank! |
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