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TIL Michael Jackson's iconic style, fashion, and choreography were heavily influenced by Bob Fosse's performance as the Snake in the 1974 musical film The Little Prince
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melsaskca lemmy.ca melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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Cool find!

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Proprietary_Blend lemmy.world Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world
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"Heavily influenced"

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Cris_Citrus (he/him <3) piefed.zip Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip
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Thats so fucking cool!!!

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Oh cool, so not only was he forgiven for being a pedophile but his entire (later) image was a ripoff

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hOrni lemmy.world hOrni@lemmy.world
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Oh cool, so not only was he forgiven for being a pedophile but his entire (later) image was a ripoff

There is literally no proof he was a pedophile.

Sarcastic edit: The snake in that scene is telling the boy that all his problems will go away if he stings him with his stinger. The pedophillia was obviously also copied from this scene.

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shameless lemmy.world Shameless@lemmy.world
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Fascinating!

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Séimhe (sé / é) lemmy.world Seimhe@lemmy.world
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Oh cool, so not only was he forgiven for being a pedophile but his entire (later) image was a ripoff

I stopped listening to his music in the 90s when the accusations came out. But I’ve spent a lot of time seperatijg the tabloid smears, the false or unlikely allegations from his own story. I’m convinced he was destroyed for his money.

We should enjoy his music and his legacy. And I say that as a survivor myself.

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Setiyeti93 lemmy.ca Setiyeti93@lemmy.ca
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Bob Fosse has been insanely influential on pop culture in general.

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lemmysmash piefed.social lemmysmash@piefed.social
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Optional lemmy.world homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
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I stopped listening to his music in the 90s when the accusations came out. But I’ve spent a lot of time seperatijg the tabloid smears, the false or unlikely allegations from his own story. I’m convinced he was destroyed for his money. We should enjoy his music and his legacy. And I say that as a survivor myself.

Did you watch “Leaving Neverland”?

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pr06lefs lemmy.ml pr06lefs@lemmy.ml
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#12 · (edited) Quote Reply

MJ: "you know, I'm something of a snake in the grass myself"

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Optional lemmy.world homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
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There is literally no proof he was a pedophile. Sarcastic edit: The snake in that scene is telling the boy that all his problems will go away if he stings him with his stinger. The pedophillia was obviously also copied from this scene.

No proof except multiple eyewitness / victim testimony and a mountain of corroborating evidence. Like Epstein. Or trump.

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Oh cool, so not only was he forgiven for being a pedophile but his entire (later) image was a ripoff

You're right, but there's way too much MJ dick riding in the world for it to ever be a popular thing to say.

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starik lemmy.today starik@lemmy.today
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Oh cool, so not only was he forgiven for being a pedophile but his entire (later) image was a ripoff

Just for Billie Jean, not his entire image.

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gastroglizzy piefed.social gastroglizzy@piefed.social
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Oh cool, so not only was he forgiven for being a pedophile but his entire (later) image was a ripoff

You've been fooled by propaganda.

His image was attacked and destroyed because he wouldn't sell his music catalog.

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gastroglizzy piefed.social gastroglizzy@piefed.social
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No proof except multiple eyewitness / victim testimony and a mountain of corroborating evidence. Like Epstein. Or trump.

multiple eyewitness / victim testimony

All of whom have since either quietly retracted their testimony and/or admitted they lied.

a mountain of corroborating evidence

A false accusation can't be corroborated

Like Epstein. Or trump.

Are you this mad about them too? Or do you only pick on the easy targets to make yourself feel big?

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gastroglizzy piefed.social gastroglizzy@piefed.social
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You're right, but there's way too much MJ dick riding in the world for it to ever be a popular thing to say.

Yeah, because you being wrong simply isn't possible.

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Cris_Citrus (he/him <3) piefed.zip Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip
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No proof except multiple eyewitness / victim testimony and a mountain of corroborating evidence. Like Epstein. Or trump.

The relevant Wikipedia page coalates the mountain of all the evidence related- I hadn't read it till recently when someone linked it and I really have no stake in this, I don't really care about mj, but the evidence really doest point to him being a pedophile.

It points to him having an unhealthy and innapropriate relationship with children and the idea of childhood. But theres honestly a really big gap between what it points to and being a pedophile who has sex with children

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Michael_Jackson_sexual_abuse_allegations?wprov=sfla1

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hOrni lemmy.world hOrni@lemmy.world
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multiple eyewitness / victim testimony All of whom have since either quietly retracted their testimony and/or admitted they lied. a mountain of corroborating evidence A false accusation can't be corroborated Like Epstein. Or trump. Are you this mad about them too? Or do you only pick on the easy targets to make yourself feel big?

I like how he thinks that just mentioning Epstein and Trump, when talking about pedos, makes him right.

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Optional lemmy.world homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
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The relevant Wikipedia page coalates the mountain of all the evidence related- I hadn't read it till recently when someone linked it and I really have no stake in this, I don't really care about mj, but the evidence really doest point to him being a pedophile. It points to him having an unhealthy and innapropriate relationship with children and the idea of childhood. But theres honestly a reall...

Just watch “Leaving Neverland”. It’s spelled out very plainly.

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Optional lemmy.world homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
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multiple eyewitness / victim testimony All of whom have since either quietly retracted their testimony and/or admitted they lied. a mountain of corroborating evidence A false accusation can't be corroborated Like Epstein. Or trump. Are you this mad about them too? Or do you only pick on the easy targets to make yourself feel big?

All of whom have since either quietly retracted their testimony and/or admitted they lied.

That’s not true.

Are you this mad about them too?

Madder, fwiw. Trump’s dancing is awful.

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dan1101 lemmy.world dan1101@lemmy.world
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Wonder where Bob Fosse got it? A combination of previous performers or something completely original, which is rare.

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hOrni lemmy.world hOrni@lemmy.world
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Just watch “Leaving Neverland”. It’s spelled out very plainly.

Just watch the music video to " Smooth Criminal". Absolute masterpiece.

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FatVegan leminal.space FatVegan@leminal.space
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No proof except multiple eyewitness / victim testimony and a mountain of corroborating evidence. Like Epstein. Or trump.

People also came out saying their parents were money hungry cunts who wanted a piece of the pie. THEY were okay to let their kids sleepover at a complete strangers home, but no one blames them skmehow.

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hOrni lemmy.world hOrni@lemmy.world
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Wonder where Bob Fosse got it? A combination of previous performers or something completely original, which is rare.

Fred Astaire, probably.

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Optional lemmy.world homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
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People also came out saying their parents were money hungry cunts who wanted a piece of the pie. THEY were okay to let their kids sleepover at a complete strangers home, but no one blames them skmehow.

Lots of people blame them. I blame them. They blame them. They said so, on camera, with examples of how they failed. One of which was getting financial rewards for looking the other way.

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user_user lemmy.zip user_user@lemmy.zip
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You've been fooled by propaganda. His image was attacked and destroyed because he wouldn't sell his music catalog.

He slept in the bed with children that werent his own and were obsessed with them. Its not a thing a normal adult does.

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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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Uh are you just going straight full on racist..?

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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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You've been fooled by propaganda. His image was attacked and destroyed because he wouldn't sell his music catalog.

No link or citation is bold for such a take. Not heard it before now.

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Jankatarch lemmy.world Jankatarch@lemmy.world
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Wait is the little prince popular in US too?

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rumba lemmy.zip rumba@lemmy.zip
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He slept in the bed with children that werent his own and were obsessed with them. Its not a thing a normal adult does.

100% he was not normal and was abused his whole life. Whether he was fondling anyone or not, we'll never know for certain, but none of those kids should have been allowed to do that just to leave a safety margin.

It's not impossible that he became a rich target for extortion, but he was off enough that it would def have been grounds for pedo like restraining orders.

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AzuranAurora piefed.ca AzuranAurora@piefed.ca
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Uh are you just going straight full on racist..?

Check their profile, they are. They're a troll fishing for downvotes.

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humanspiral lemmy.ca humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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version with music?

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Victor lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world
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Check their profile, they are. They're a troll fishing for downvotes.

Glad a mod decided to remove every single one of their comments.

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njm1314 lemmy.world njm1314@lemmy.world
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Wait is the little prince popular in US too?

Not realy.

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njm1314 lemmy.world njm1314@lemmy.world
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Check their profile, they are. They're a troll fishing for downvotes.

Fishing for downvotes on a site that doesn't even keep track of your votes. Truly the dumbest troll.

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Victor lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world
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Did you watch “Leaving Neverland”?

Not the one you replied to, but I did, and it was very hard to dismiss. I still don't think I have, completely. Maybe I should, logically, but emotionally it was hard to let go. Still conflicted about it, because the conspiracy against Michael scenario is just as probable.

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Séimhe (sé / é) lemmy.world Seimhe@lemmy.world
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Did you watch “Leaving Neverland”?

I read the transcript. I was almost convinced until the discrepancies emerged later.

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Optional lemmy.world homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
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I read the transcript. I was almost convinced until the discrepancies emerged later.

You read the transcript of a 90 minute movie?

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RampantParanoia2365 lemmy.world RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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#43 · (edited) Quote Reply

Wait is the little prince popular in US too?

I used to watch a cartoon as a kid in the late 80s, in the US. This moon is far bigger than on the show.

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wyldrstallyns lemmy.dbzer0.com wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Wait is the little prince popular in US too?

Generally, only when one is in middle school and learning French, IME. 😅

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Séimhe (sé / é) lemmy.world Seimhe@lemmy.world
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You read the transcript of a 90 minute movie?

The video is a lot longer than 90 minutes. The transcript is around 100 pages. The language is simple so you'd read it in an evening.

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wyldrstallyns lemmy.dbzer0.com wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#46 · (edited) Quote Reply

MJ: "you know, I'm something of a snake in the grass myself"

Considering the thematic overlaps between said character portrayed and MJ's off-stage history IRL... 🥲

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wyldrstallyns lemmy.dbzer0.com wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#47 · Quote Reply

Bob Fosse has been insanely influential on pop culture in general.

Even that scene in The Birdcage!

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wyldrstallyns lemmy.dbzer0.com wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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You read the transcript of a 90 minute movie?

Others're bound to accomplish what you'd rather not.

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thermal_shock lemmy.world thermal_shock@lemmy.world
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#49 · (edited) Quote Reply

version with music?

Stolen by a smooth criminal

https://youtu.be/xXonK8EBqmk

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wyldrstallyns lemmy.dbzer0.com wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Just watch “Leaving Neverland”. It’s spelled out very plainly.

Cinema is not a valid reference source, even "documentaries" aren't required to be 100% true.

FFS, even penguins were propagandized for generations before the public was allowed to learn that they're ridiculously homocidal rapists, etc. 🤷🏼‍♂️ The latter came from the field journals penned during the first excursion through their territories, way back when. The cover up that swiftly followed said expedition's report was bankrolled by the running class & its academic policy makers.

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wyldrstallyns lemmy.dbzer0.com wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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All of whom have since either quietly retracted their testimony and/or admitted they lied. That’s not true. Are you this mad about them too? Madder, fwiw. Trump’s dancing is awful.

Most of whom

Better? Now it's accurate.

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