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sudoer777 lemmy.ml sudoer777@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-02-18
#102 · Quote Reply

So now California has a governor pretending to be pro-Palestine to do damage control while signing laws that give Zionist corporations more control over your data and hardware

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dogs0n sh.itjust.works dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-08
#103 · Quote Reply

I have a Macbook air now. Do you recommend me to buy a Lenovo thinkpad? Qubes os is the top pick, I heard.

Linux can run on macbooks, you can probably look up the model online and see if it has good support. I used to run debian on a macbook, though that macbook was from 2013 or something like that.

On the other hand, if you can sell your macbook and get more than a good thinkpad (for your use) is selling for, I would do that.

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iuminou lemmy.dbzer0.com thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-09-12
#104 · Quote Reply

"Must be outside of California, Colorado, and Brazil to download this Linux ISO"

"Must be outside of California, Colorado, and Brazil to proceed with installation"

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NoFun4You lemmy.world NoFun4You@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-15
#105 · Quote Reply

So now California has a governor pretending to be pro-Palestine to do damage control while signing laws that give Zionist corporations more control over your data and hardware

Fuck Trump tho am I rite?

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Goldenring lemmy.ca Goldenring@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2026-02-25
#106 · (edited) Quote Reply

Linux can run on macbooks, you can probably look up the model online and see if it has good support. I used to run debian on a macbook, though that macbook was from 2013 or something like that. On the other hand, if you can sell your macbook and get more than a good thinkpad (for your use) is selling for, I would do that.

The air model has a M4 chip. Fedora, Whonix and Quebo doesn't support... I'll wait for another months.

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quips slrpnk.net quips@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2026-01-08
#107 · (edited) Quote Reply

I suggest simply never complying. While this is the best. it is not feasible. Not many open source projects can just pay millions on fines and not think about it. Idiots making these laws cant enforce it but they will try in the only way they know. Fine and fine and fine untill a project dies.

How would they have to pay any fines if they simply say we are no longer for use in xyz place doing age verification?

Second, how would payment be enforced when there is no organization to fine?

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sudoer777 lemmy.ml sudoer777@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-02-18
#108 · Quote Reply

Fuck Trump tho am I rite?

Yes but Trump isn't the one doing the age verification mandates

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ilinamorato lemmy.world ilinamorato@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-27
#109 · Quote Reply

I mean DRMing and Tivoizing every new computer so that it can't be rooted or jailbroken and Linux won't run on it. Requiring a license from the state to have a compiler. You know, The Right to Read or Unauthorized Bread type shit.

Well...I dunno. I don't think you're crazy or anything, I'm sure there are some who absolutely do want to do that. But they've been trying to get rid of digital piracy for thirty years and haven't made any headway, so I'm dubious about how well that would work.

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wer2 lemmy.zip wer2@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#110 · Quote Reply

I bet people will just accept it and not even think twice about it.

I see you too were born on January 1st 1970.

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freedickpics lemmy.ml freedickpics@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-09-16
#111 · Quote Reply

For a phone sim.....of course you do. I mean they would know who pays the bill anyway right? Unless you have a phone company that takes bitcoin or cash only.

Phone companies are required to collect and retain IDing info of customers to activate a phone number in Australia. There's no way around it unfortunately

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#112 · Quote Reply

"Must be outside of California, Colorado, and Brazil to download this Linux ISO" "Must be outside of California, Colorado, and Brazil to proceed with installation"

oh i'm not in California, I'm in Egypt. I'm waist deep in denial.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#113 · Quote Reply

Wait, send explicit images? I'm not a child, I get that on these platforms my privacy is pretty well gone, but is it explicitly known (confirmed from the source) that these companies scan your images too? That feels extra fucked up. Like "hold on a sec bucko let me check this photo you're trying to send real quick to make sure it's not titties "

where do you think they got the database for their porn generating llms?

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grue lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#114 · Quote Reply

Well...I dunno. I don't think you're crazy or anything, I'm sure there are some who absolutely do want to do that. But they've been trying to get rid of digital piracy for thirty years and haven't made any headway, so I'm dubious about how well that would work.

Only because, up to this point, we've been successful at pushing back against this tyranny. But make no mistake: that is the real goal of this "age verification" bullshit.

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lightnsfw reddthat.com lightnsfw@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-08-15
#115 · Quote Reply

"Must be outside of California, Colorado, and Brazil to download this Linux ISO" "Must be outside of California, Colorado, and Brazil to proceed with installation"

I'm in canada!

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tackleberry thelemmy.club tackleberry@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2026-01-30
#116 · Quote Reply

So now California has a governor pretending to be pro-Palestine to do damage control while signing laws that give Zionist corporations more control over your data and hardware

If you ever thought Gavin was anti-Trump, I have news for you 😄

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razen lemmy.world razen@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-08
#117 · Quote Reply

Majority will accept it, they dont care and governments and corpos like this

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marcie (she/her) lemmy.ml marcie@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-03-22
#118 · Quote Reply

"Must be outside of California, Colorado, and Brazil to download this Linux ISO" "Must be outside of California, Colorado, and Brazil to proceed with installation"

Eventually: must be in Antarctica to use this distro

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maturelemontree lemmy.zip maturelemontree@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-02-11
#119 · Quote Reply

I suggest simply never complying. While this is the best. it is not feasible. Not many open source projects can just pay millions on fines and not think about it. Idiots making these laws cant enforce it but they will try in the only way they know. Fine and fine and fine untill a project dies.

Forgive my confusion but could they not choose to lock out web traffic without a verification? Lets say your ISP joins and says that you need x bullshit token from the government to us it, then what?

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buddascrayon lemmy.world buddascrayon@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-28
#120 · Quote Reply

If you ever thought Gavin was anti-Trump, I have news for you 😄

Oh he's anti-Trump alright. But that's just meaning that he wants to take Trump's place.

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buddascrayon lemmy.world buddascrayon@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-28
#121 · Quote Reply

I bet people will just accept it and not even think twice about it.

To be clear, these are Apple users. Most of them will take just about any abuse Apple is willing to throw their way.

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pineapple lemmy.ml pineapple@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-11-06
#122 · Quote Reply

I bet people will just accept it and not even think twice about it.

For sure. Majority of people will happilly take a selfy and send it to whatever company without a second thought.

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pineapple lemmy.ml pineapple@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-11-06
#123 · Quote Reply

To be clear, these are Apple users. Most of them will take just about any abuse Apple is willing to throw their way.

Pretty much yeah

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pineapple lemmy.ml pineapple@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-11-06
#124 · Quote Reply

I just hope this doesnt impact macos until the end of the year, then I will be able to move to linux on my laptop.

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kittykillinit lemy.lol kittykillinit@lemy.lol
Joined: 2026-02-27
#125 · Quote Reply

I’ve been an apple user my entire adult life

It's time to grow up.

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freedickpics lemmy.ml freedickpics@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-09-16
#126 · Quote Reply

I’ve been an apple user my entire adult life It's time to grow up.

You think this isn't coming to other devices? Google will presumably add this to Android and apps will follow suit by looking to the OS to verify your age so other forks will probably have to add it. Linux on smartphones is dead in the water so what's the alternative?

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tropicflite lemmy.world tropicflite@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-14
#127 · Quote Reply

Alright, time to go to a different phone. Gonna buy Fairphone tomorrow. (Or Motorola, if it's true that it's gonna have GrapheneOS on it).

I just installed Graphene OS on my Pixel 6 yesterday and it runs like a champ. You should be able to pick up a used Pixel 6 or newer for pretty cheap as another option

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Kilgore Trout feddit.it kilgore_trout@feddit.it
Joined: 2022-06-21
#128 · Quote Reply

Can you try to send an explicit image while offline?

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ScoffingLizard lemmy.dbzer0.com ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-05-04
#129 · Quote Reply

I love how big corp is already ready. It's almost as if they somehow knew all along that all the govs with bribable legislators would be making laws they all seemed to arbitrarily adopt at once. Can't wait for the shill AI slop response to this comment making it seem like a good idea.

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ScoffingLizard lemmy.dbzer0.com ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-05-04
#130 · Quote Reply

oh i'm not in California, I'm in Egypt. I'm waist deep in denial.

Which do y'all think is worse? [Serious]

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ScoffingLizard lemmy.dbzer0.com ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-05-04
#131 · Quote Reply

So now California has a governor pretending to be pro-Palestine to do damage control while signing laws that give Zionist corporations more control over your data and hardware

So what's actually going on in Cali for them to have such a douchebag governor?

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williamhalsted69 lemmy.world williamhalsted69@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-03-07
#132 · Quote Reply

i use fedora asahi remix with kde on M1, so far it's great except the battery life is not as good as in macos but i don't care ... finally i escaped the shitty glass design among other shitty things apple does... and have been using Grephene for more than a year, It's honestly the most stable, seamless OS i tried, the kind of OS that just works and doesn't annoy you. imo even better than ios !

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ScoffingLizard lemmy.dbzer0.com ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-05-04
#133 · Quote Reply

I suggest simply never complying. While this is the best. it is not feasible. Not many open source projects can just pay millions on fines and not think about it. Idiots making these laws cant enforce it but they will try in the only way they know. Fine and fine and fine untill a project dies.

Something in gut hub can still be "in development." Nobody has to comply with every regulation before they are finished. Goddamn these vultures. They've been nonstop since SOPA and PIPA back in 2010 or whenever.

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belated_frog_pants beehaw.org belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org
Joined: 2023-06-09
#134 · Quote Reply

I’ve been an apple user my entire adult life It's time to grow up.

You think google wont do this?

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ScoffingLizard lemmy.dbzer0.com ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-05-04
#135 · Quote Reply

Good, I am waiting on my brand new Fairphone 6.

It's awesome. Welcome!

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simonced lemmy.ml simonced@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-05-16
#136 · Quote Reply

I just hope this doesnt impact macos until the end of the year, then I will be able to move to linux on my laptop.

You know they want to impose age verification on Linux as well right?
Linux is still the way to go, but I am so not ok with what they ate trying to do.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#137 · Quote Reply

Which do y'all think is worse? [Serious]

I don't do serious, sorry

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KuroiKaze lemmy.world KuroiKaze@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
#138 · Quote Reply

You elected the government and regulator who caused this. Make sure it doesn't happen again.

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sudoer777 lemmy.ml sudoer777@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-02-18
#139 · (edited) Quote Reply

So what's actually going on in Cali for them to have such a douchebag governor?

Probably strong influence from corporations, billionaires, other wealthy people, and NIMBYs, along with fearmongering from establishment media to distract from actual problems. And Democrats realizing they can't win on a pro-genocide platform so now they have to at least pretend to give a shit.

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nao sh.itjust.works nao@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-07
#140 · Quote Reply

Nope, the CA/CO legislation requires that all applications utilize the OS-level age verification API!

Doesn't that mean that the application will not have to do the verification itself, but just ask the OS?

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mazzilius_marsti lemmy.world mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-15
#141 · Quote Reply

its been 4 months and I am not regret about my switch to GrapheneOS. The only thing that can make this 100% perfect is creating a Google account that does not tie to your phone number.

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freedickpics lemmy.ml freedickpics@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-09-16
#142 · Quote Reply

You elected the government and regulator who caused this. Make sure it doesn't happen again.

I sure as hell didn't vote for them. But regardless of the government these laws always seem to have bipartisan support. I've avoided this crap so far with VPNs and fake IDs but something baked into the OS like this I haven't been able to fool. Yet

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freedickpics lemmy.ml freedickpics@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-09-16
#143 · Quote Reply

its been 4 months and I am not regret about my switch to GrapheneOS. The only thing that can make this 100% perfect is creating a Google account that does not tie to your phone number.

So you need a phone number these days? That's something I've read a lot of mixed reports about

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Oggyb lemmy.world Oggyb@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-14
#144 · Quote Reply

If the West follows into the footsteps of the propaganda they are spreading against China, I'd rather go live in China because at least there people don't live paycheck to paycheck despite working multiple jobs. Every accusation against China was a confession.

Some people in tier 1 cities don't live like that, but the vast majority do. As an average person, you would not enjoy China more than your western country.

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mazzilius_marsti lemmy.world mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-15
#145 · Quote Reply

So you need a phone number these days? That's something I've read a lot of mixed reports about

yes some Play store apps are country specific so instead of switching my default country, which stupid Google only allows 1 per year btw, I want to create different profiles with different Google accounts. You cannot do that without showing that these accounts belong to whichever phone number you have

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hexagonwin lemmy.today hexagonwin@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-02-07
#146 · Quote Reply

So you need a phone number these days? That's something I've read a lot of mixed reports about

in some cases where they have good enough info about you already (creating from an android phone that isn't "fishy" enough, etc), you can create a google acc without associating a phone number, at least it's not shown on the google account info menu.

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NoFun4You lemmy.world NoFun4You@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-15
#147 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yes but Trump isn't the one doing the age verification mandates

This isnt where I parked my car.

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StarryPhoenix97 lemmy.world StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-22
#148 · Quote Reply

I know this isn't the point of the article, but I'm starting to get really pissy about software updates implementing high-level non-security related changes to my fucking fully paid for device!

It doesn't do anything but I'm starting to refuse to agree to any new user agreements.

It's pretty much nothing.

I have 3 different AI agents that were forced onto my phone between Google, Samsung, and Microsoft.

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freedickpics lemmy.ml freedickpics@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-09-16
#149 · Quote Reply

I know this isn't the point of the article, but I'm starting to get really pissy about software updates implementing high-level non-security related changes to my fucking fully paid for device! It doesn't do anything but I'm starting to refuse to agree to any new user agreements. It's pretty much nothing. I have 3 different AI agents that were forced onto my phone between Google, Samsung, and M...

It'll be baked into the ToS somewhere but I agree it's bullshit. Years ago I bought a youtuber downloader app (I know I should've just used yt-dl) and they released an update that removed support for half the websites and locked them behind a new higher-priced tier. None of it was mentioned in the changelog, just a prompt that came up after you'd installed the new build. I was able to reinstall the previous version and keep using it but I was still so pissed off

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ThomasWilliams lemmy.world ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-10
#150 · Quote Reply

For a phone sim.....of course you do. I mean they would know who pays the bill anyway right? Unless you have a phone company that takes bitcoin or cash only.

You don't need ID to buy a sim in the US or UK, or most countries in fact.
Most sims in Australia are pre-paid, not contract.

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boogiebored lemmy.world boogiebored@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-25
#151 · Quote Reply

The dream is over. The internet and technology are over. It was fun while it lasted, and it is time to re-adapt to a reality without dependence on 100% privacy invading surveillance.

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