I barely remember that..
Christ...that seems so long ago.

I like the song "do anything for love" because it is a core memory of my mama singing her heart out to it while we were driving to the beach in Clearwater. I was like 5 or 6.

I can close my eyes and see her now.

Boy, am I glad I'm moving my family back in with my ma. Being she got stage 4. Thank you for reminding me of this memory.

I have one of my mom singing Sheila by Tommy Rowe and every time the song goes "bow bow bow bow" she'd tickle me.

I did a studio session with them about 20 years ago, when they were still pretty popular and before they were widely considered to be a joke, but I was not a fan. When the studio I was working for called me to do the session, my wife said, “Watch - they will end up being really nice guys and you will end up liking them more because of it.” In reality, they were arrogant dickheads, and I hated them all the more ever since.

That was a really strange way to interpret my comment. Sorry for trying to participate in the conversation.

Hanson. Their curse was that Mmmbop became THE hit early in their career. Their later stuff is in fact alright and with a lot more skill involved than a single repeated hook.

But seriously, what the hell IS on Joey's head?

Well, knowing they're all assholes helps me not feel bad for all the hate they get.

As a metal head, I didn't understand Ghost for the longest time. I didn't hate it, but "this isn't metal" was my exact thought, lol. Took me a few tries before I finally thought they were "okay". Then I went to see them live, and now they're probably in my top 15 bands.

I always thought it was because they essentially pioneered the "rock music for commercials" genre

Meatloaf was a terrible human being, it's hard to ignore that and like his music. I used to like that album before I knew though.

Oh man, I love that. Thank you for sharing it.

NOFX gets a lot of flack, I love their music.

The amount of Rock stars that aren't terrible humans probably wouldn't fill two hands.

What? What did the 'loaf do to anyone?

I’ve never listened to any of their songs besides mmm mmm mmm and I still love it so much. Its a defining part of the 90s for me

I don't think being pro-Trump and then realising he was a sack of shit and then becoming anti-Trump necessarily counts as being a terrible human being.

His only other controversial stuff seems to be being a climate change denier and anti-vaxxer but I put that down to stupidity over any malice on his part.

Plus you can argue that Jim Steinman was a bigger part of Loafs music than Loaf himself.

Back when I was a wedding DJ, I'd queue up Meatloaf when I had to take a shit

Really? When i worked with them, they were all really nice guys. Surprised to hear that.

Honestly, I like CTD, but with just a few more songs, Superman's Song, The Ghosts that Haunt Me, and Afternoons & Coffeespoons, you should probably have enough for a lifetime, LOL. Superman's Song may even be vaguely familiar if you were reading comics in those days, as it came out not too long before the (in)famous Death of Superman arc.

How dare you! Why would you suggest that a virtuoso prodigy with serious interpersonal antisocial quirks might be on the autism spectrum

People at the height of their own popularity tend to be dicks. My mom organized some event with Neil degrasse Tyson during his hay day and said he was pretty insufferable.

Makes sense, his songs are pretty long.

That thunder song was legitimately terrible.

A lot of fellow metal heads out there don't like it when music is fun enough to be enjoyed by people who don't keep a closet full of long-sleeved band shirts. A couple years ago I ran into an old coworker at a Fleshgod Apocalypse show and they got angry when I asked if they were interested in tagging along to an upcoming Dethklok show.

Years ago I went to the Slayer farewell tour. There were a lot of bands that I had wanted to see for a long time: Testament, Behemoth, Lamb of God, and Anthrax.

In my opinion, Anthrax stole the show. I hadn't listened to them much before that show, but on my way back home I played a lot from their catalog and realized I had been missing out.

there’s no autotune tho

i feel like you read the question (“actually not that bad”) wrong

"Lost Without Each Other" is a genuine bop. They're a lot better than they get credit for.

Really? I've never heard anything bad about them, whenever I hear someone talk about them it's always very positive

I can guarantee with as corporate and overproduced as that shit is they 100% use autotune. When you do it right you can't tell. I use it in my home studio even, most songs use it across all genres.

It's difficult to autotune screaming and sound that good. As a Windmill scene fan, the problem with Imagine Dragons is not the vocals (the lead has awesome technical abilities); it's the lack of a point.

He uhh always has been and still is as far as I'm aware. He talks down to everyone, even the camera. And him tearing apart movies was the most obnoxious thing. We know Neil, we know.

I did some research and it looks like they do on some and don't on others which is about as milquetoast as I'd expect from them

what on earth does any of this mean?

what is a Windmill scene and what do you mean by lack of a pint? like a pint of beer? they would be better if they were drunk?

I decided to look it up and it's a champagne chiller polished really well, looks like the Stanley cup

They had a good song recently "she keeps me up".

Brian posehn. The geologist from Big bang theory.

"they're not 'heavy metal', and not really satanic"

People just struggle to put them in a category, and that hurts some people's brains but I really dig it.

Honestly, what were you thinking?

Smash Mouth wound up getting overplayed with "All Star", but their debut Fush Yu Mang is excellent. Way better than you'd expect, and it's worth a listen if just for their first radio hit, "Walkin On The Sun".

That album is really great! Road Man has a great tune.

I swear I ninja-edited it to "point". "Windmill scene" you can search up; it's not too easy to describe. Some call it "crank wave"? Some call it art punk.

Could you elaborate on which songs they use autotune on? Other than whatever "Thunder" is.

Curious, what kind of flack do they get? I always thought they were well regarded

I love that it sounds like dark 80s pop. I have a friend that I told square hammer was about Freemasonry because he's a mason. Took like 2 years of listening to it before he really caught the lyrics.

Elitist punks gatekeeping what counts as punk.

I didnt know who that was... Now I hate Imagine Dragons.

There's nothing of theirs that I like and I think they're mediocre at best, but I agree. The amount of hate is totally unjustified.

Currently Imagine Dragons. But I remember when Nickleback also was the butt of many jokes despite not being a terrible band.