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SatyrSack
quokk.au
SatyrSack@quokk.auJoined: 2025-08-25 |
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sanpo
sopuli.xyz
sanpo@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-30 |
That's me too and I'm not even a scalper. :( I feel like they should have at least required a deposit so people don't sing up when they don't really plan to buy it. With extremely limited supply anyone that doesn't get Frame now, will probably have to pay an even higher price whenever stock is back... |
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SatyrSack
quokk.au
SatyrSack@quokk.auJoined: 2025-08-25 |
That's me too and I'm not even a scalper. :( I feel like they should have at least required a deposit so people don't sing up when they don't really plan to buy it. With extremely limited supply anyone that doesn't get Frame now, will probably have to pay an even higher price whenever stock is back...
I remember when tech used to depreciate in price with age. |
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wizardbeard
lemmy.dbzer0.com
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-16 |
I expect they'll just script/automate some way to get 1000 entries for every legitimate one. Then again, I'm not familiar with what the entry requirements are. Unless the entry requirements are more than the potential profit, you're still going to see scalping. |
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iturnedintoanewt
lemmy.world
iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
The Asian official booking webpage is completely crashed... |
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9point6
lemmy.world
9point6@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
That's me too and I'm not even a scalper. :( I feel like they should have at least required a deposit so people don't sing up when they don't really plan to buy it. With extremely limited supply anyone that doesn't get Frame now, will probably have to pay an even higher price whenever stock is back...
It's a somewhat solved problem already Glastonbury festival has made you register your name, address and a mugshot for about a decade or so now It gets printed on the ticket. If you don't look like the person on the ticket and don't have the ID of the person named, you're not getting in Kinda invasive, but it's basically killed touting Not quite sure how you do this with hardware, perhaps tying it to the device? Maybe you need to own the device for a year or two before you're allowed to use it with another account |
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lime!
feddit.nu
lime@feddit.nuJoined: 2024-08-21 |
I expect they'll just script/automate some way to get 1000 entries for every legitimate one. Then again, I'm not familiar with what the entry requirements are. Unless the entry requirements are more than the potential profit, you're still going to see scalping.
if it's like for the steam machine, the account must have existed for like six months before the start date and must have previously purchased something. |
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zewm
lemmy.world
zewm@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-02 |
I’m not a scalper and I hate this lottery system. My friend signed up for steam machine and still hasn’t received his email. I have purchased every valve hardware since the first controller. Never had a problem just clicking add to cart and buying. Same shit when Covid hit and 3090s were just released. Got one direct from Nvidia no problem. Now with this lottery crap I might never get my reservation due to RNG. I rather just be first in line on the purchase day. |
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sanpo
sopuli.xyz
sanpo@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-30 |
With extremely limited supply anyone that doesn’t get Frame now, will probably have to pay an even higher price whenever stock is back… I remember when tech used to depreciate in price with age.
Feels like another life... |
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Telorand
reddthat.com
Telorand@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-07-09 |
I’m not a scalper and I hate this lottery system. My friend signed up for steam machine and still hasn’t received his email. I have purchased every valve hardware since the first controller. Never had a problem just clicking add to cart and buying. Same shit when Covid hit and 3090s were just released. Got one direct from Nvidia no problem. Now with this lottery crap I might never get my reserv...
That's just it. The scalpers have bots that can both do this faster than you and at scale. The idea of being "first in line" is simply not realistic anymore. The lottery ensures some semblance of fairness for a limited supply brought on by the AI tech bros buying up production capacity for the next two years (or more). |
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sanpo
sopuli.xyz
sanpo@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-30 |
if it's like for the steam machine, the account must have existed for like six months before the start date and must have previously purchased something.
It is. Steam account with a purchase from before April 27. |
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chloroken
lemmy.ml
chloroken@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-11-15 |
I’m not a scalper and I hate this lottery system. My friend signed up for steam machine and still hasn’t received his email. I have purchased every valve hardware since the first controller. Never had a problem just clicking add to cart and buying. Same shit when Covid hit and 3090s were just released. Got one direct from Nvidia no problem. Now with this lottery crap I might never get my reserv...
There it is, folks. The ramblings of a selfish person who doesn't understand that this system is in place to help them. Ignorant as hell. |
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brave_lemmywinks
lemmy.world
brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Hope I get the golden ticket. |
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livligkinkajou
slrpnk.net
livligkinkajou@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-01-27 |
Obsession 2025... you know... for science |
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nous
programming.dev
nous@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-17 |
It's a somewhat solved problem already Glastonbury festival has made you register your name, address and a mugshot for about a decade or so now It gets printed on the ticket. If you don't look like the person on the ticket and don't have the ID of the person named, you're not getting in Kinda invasive, but it's basically killed touting Not quite sure how you do this with hardware, perhaps tying...
I would rather let a few people scalp some devices then give up ownership over the devices I buy. I would not want valve to have a remote way to brick something I have bought. The fact you need an account in good standing and it's limited to one per address helps a lot in cutting down on the number of devices that can be scalped. It is basically just a few individuals that can do that and not a few people systematically buying up all the stock at once to resell. I would rather them focus on upping the supply then preventing every single scalper. |
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mierdabird
lemmy.dbzer0.com
mierdabird@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-07-04 |
That's me too and I'm not even a scalper. :( I feel like they should have at least required a deposit so people don't sing up when they don't really plan to buy it. With extremely limited supply anyone that doesn't get Frame now, will probably have to pay an even higher price whenever stock is back...
They have 72 hours to actually go through with the purchase and then steam offers it to next person. Seems like fake reservations might slow things down a bit but not really remove supply |
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SatyrSack
quokk.au
SatyrSack@quokk.auJoined: 2025-08-25 |
Obsession 2025... you know... for science
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nikki-frowning-obsession-how-your-girlfriend-looks-at-you |
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atrielienz
lemmy.world
atrielienz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-05 |
I would rather let a few people scalp some devices then give up ownership over the devices I buy. I would not want valve to have a remote way to brick something I have bought. The fact you need an account in good standing and it's limited to one per address helps a lot in cutting down on the number of devices that can be scalped. It is basically just a few individuals that can do that and not a...
It being limited to one person address is a problem when you have a family though. Only single people are allowed to own this thing I guess. Can't have gamer roommates. I get it but it'll be years before I can buy this thing or the stream machine mostly likely and it's for a variety of reasons. My husband actually put in for the lottery for the steam machine and didn't get picked. I have no idea how their system handles a second attempt with a different account but the same address but I'm not sure I want to find out even though I would like to buy one. |
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raman_klogius
ani.social
raman_klogius@ani.social Joined: 2024-06-22 |
I would rather let a few people scalp some devices then give up ownership over the devices I buy. I would not want valve to have a remote way to brick something I have bought. The fact you need an account in good standing and it's limited to one per address helps a lot in cutting down on the number of devices that can be scalped. It is basically just a few individuals that can do that and not a...
As per supply, unfortunately all the ai companies have bought all of next year's ram |
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steelplatedmech
piefed.ca
steelplatedmech@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-07-22 |
I’m not a scalper and I hate this lottery system. My friend signed up for steam machine and still hasn’t received his email. I have purchased every valve hardware since the first controller. Never had a problem just clicking add to cart and buying. Same shit when Covid hit and 3090s were just released. Got one direct from Nvidia no problem. Now with this lottery crap I might never get my reserv...
I like it because free for all never worked for me and I experienced the worst of it trying to get a gpu during the crypto craze and everyone using bots and alerts to try to snipe something that would go out of stock in seconds. EVGA game in clutch and did queue system and I got my card for msrp. And I liked it when Valve did it for the Steam Deck. Hated when Steam Controller did a free for all and ended up wasting couple of hours clicking and coming up empty handed. They went to queue and I finally got one after a few months. I'd rather wait and if it takes a year or longer so be it, but a free for all approach is one I know I'll have zero chance at compared to the lotto. |
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barkingspiders
infosec.pub
barkingspiders@infosec.pubJoined: 2023-08-09 |
I got fucked on the steam cube lottery but I'll take it any day over watching the scrapers buy everything |
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Senal
programming.dev
Senal@programming.dev Joined: 2023-08-08 |
As per supply, unfortunately all the ai companies have bought all of next year's ram
They have not. They have provided an IOU from the bank of "trust me bro, this shit's gonna moon" same as everyone else in that circlejerk of stockmarket destruction. and the other side has said : while announcing this big "sale" they have completed to boost their stock price. It's fucking monopoly money to them and it's going fuck everybody |
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Kushan
lemmy.world
Kushan@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-16 |
FYI read the small print: they'll remove entries with the same address, so if you live with other people don't all join the queue or you'll silently disqualify yourselves. |
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steelplatedmech
piefed.ca
steelplatedmech@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-07-22 |
It being limited to one person address is a problem when you have a family though. Only single people are allowed to own this thing I guess. Can't have gamer roommates. I get it but it'll be years before I can buy this thing or the stream machine mostly likely and it's for a variety of reasons. My husband actually put in for the lottery for the steam machine and didn't get picked. I have no ide...
When it is hard enough for 1 person in a household to even get one steam hardware to share I'm fine with the one address limit. A household having multiple devices is a luxury when it is hard enough getting even one. |
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iturnedintoanewt
lemmy.world
iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
No worries, scalpers can still get their way on the Asian region website. There's no lottery. They released it this morning, and within the hour, all units were sold. I think there was a limit of how many per head you could get, but still, no biggie for scalpers. I managed out of sheer luck to get mine, but definitely a lottery might have been better. |
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Railcar8095
lemmy.world
Railcar8095@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
FYI read the small print: they'll remove entries with the same address, so if you live with other people don't all join the queue or you'll silently disqualify yourselves.
I'm so fucking glad I didn't update my address after moving recently so my wife and I don't have the same address. I'm asking every friend that doesn't want one to line for me. I still think the demand will outpace supply so much it won't even matter. |
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atrielienz
lemmy.world
atrielienz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-05 |
When it is hard enough for 1 person in a household to even get one steam hardware to share I'm fine with the one address limit. A household having multiple devices is a luxury when it is hard enough getting even one.
I don't think you understand what I am saying here. One person in the household signed up and didn't get picked. They do not specify or clarify what happens if the other person in the household signs up. Does it risk one or both of the accounts? Roommates can't have two systems and should share?! Did you read what I actually said or are you just ignoring half of it because you don't like the idea that this is not a cut and dry thing. I didn't even say I don't understand the limit. Scalpers suck. I just said I wasn't going to gamble with my steam account over it. I have bought steam hardware before. I've owned both the steam link and the original controller. I had one of their Alienware steam machines back in the day. This is a system that hurts prospective buyers who want the product because scalpers are doing the wrong thing and it sucks to be essentially treated as a person trying to take advantage of the system when you haven't done anything wrong. |
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Thunderbird4
lemmy.world
Thunderbird4@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
I'm so fucking glad I didn't update my address after moving recently so my wife and I don't have the same address. I'm asking every friend that doesn't want one to line for me. I still think the demand will outpace supply so much it won't even matter.
I was considering the same strategy, but I don’t know how it would work having a device that was bought on another account. I’m sure the other person would have to pay from their own account, and that they could still ship to a different address, but what about support later on? Or what about the accessory kits that are only available for Frame owners, like the ergonomic kit or the upcoming enthusiast kit? Still trying to figure out if it’s worth it to ask friends to join me in the lottery. |
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techt
lemmy.world
techt@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-02 |
It being limited to one person address is a problem when you have a family though. Only single people are allowed to own this thing I guess. Can't have gamer roommates. I get it but it'll be years before I can buy this thing or the stream machine mostly likely and it's for a variety of reasons. My husband actually put in for the lottery for the steam machine and didn't get picked. I have no ide...
Can you change your address to a parent or friend's house who won't be buying it? Maybe that's too risky as well |
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AwesomeLowlander
sh.itjust.works
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-07-12 |
I don't think you understand what I am saying here. One person in the household signed up and didn't get picked. They do not specify or clarify what happens if the other person in the household signs up. Does it risk one or both of the accounts? Roommates can't have two systems and should share?! Did you read what I actually said or are you just ignoring half of it because you don't like the id...
We get it, you like steak. |
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Railcar8095
lemmy.world
Railcar8095@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
I was considering the same strategy, but I don’t know how it would work having a device that was bought on another account. I’m sure the other person would have to pay from their own account, and that they could still ship to a different address, but what about support later on? Or what about the accessory kits that are only available for Frame owners, like the ergonomic kit or the upcoming ent...
They will pay with their card and put my shipping address. It's only one, I don't want more, so likely no issue. Even of we ship to their address... I'll just walk there? The accessories are bought together with the frame, and the device is not DRM locked. I don't think valve will prosecute us, when we buy only one and our accounts are 18+ years old. |
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Kairos
lemmy.today
LodeMike@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-26 |
No worries, scalpers can still get their way on the Asian region website. There's no lottery. They released it this morning, and within the hour, all units were sold. I think there was a limit of how many per head you could get, but still, no biggie for scalpers. I managed out of sheer luck to get mine, but definitely a lottery might have been better.
I assume some amount of units are already imported into the U.S. |
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snugglesthefalse
sh.itjust.works
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-09-18 |
Just don't buy it till the lottery ends, not like you need it this second. |
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BigPotato
lemmy.world
BigPotato@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
I'm so fucking glad I didn't update my address after moving recently so my wife and I don't have the same address. I'm asking every friend that doesn't want one to line for me. I still think the demand will outpace supply so much it won't even matter.
I care enough to want it but I'll just throw my name in the hat and see where it lands. |
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Dettweiler
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-07-20 |
Just don't buy it till the lottery ends, not like you need it this second.
The lottery is just for the first wave of shipments. After that, it's a reservation queue. |
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FlihpFlorp
piefed.zip
FlihpFlorp@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-07-09 |
There it is, folks. The ramblings of a selfish person who doesn't understand that this system is in place to help them. Ignorant as hell.
I managed to grab my steam controller on the 4th when it dropped and it got… well I’m not great with time but I think I got it in July. But anyways I lucked out and when I heard of the machine (and assumed frame) would have the reservation queue INITIALLY I was disliked it. I was thinking even with bots people could grab it, then I saw the amount of scalp listings And then thinking about it, the window allows people not to plan around the date, I was lucky with the controller that I could use my college WiFi in the middle of lecture. But people at work or otherwise unable to fight in the refreshing gauntlet, or me on frame day sleeping through the announcement by 15 minutes. Like I’m a little sore because… well idk why… but I think the benifits greatly outweigh the cons compared to the gauntlet of clicks This kinda turned into a ramble I’m sure there’s an idea in here somewhere |
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SeventySeven
sh.itjust.works
SeventySeven@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-28 |
I managed to grab my steam controller on the 4th when it dropped and it got… well I’m not great with time but I think I got it in July. But anyways I lucked out and when I heard of the machine (and assumed frame) would have the reservation queue INITIALLY I was disliked it. I was thinking even with bots people could grab it, then I saw the amount of scalp listings And then thinking about it, th...
Wait, you got your steam controller? I reserved my steam controller back in May and I just now checked and it says I'll get it in 2027 lmao Edit: :(
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tetris11
feddit.uk
tetris11@feddit.ukJoined: 2025-02-17 |
Obsession 2025... you know... for science
That film was weird. It's like the director decided half-way through, "actually this is too cringe for me, I'm just gonna have fun with it" and then proceeded to wrap things up in a deeply unsatisfying way. I still think about this film. |
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steelplatedmech
piefed.ca
steelplatedmech@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-07-22 |
I don't think you understand what I am saying here. One person in the household signed up and didn't get picked. They do not specify or clarify what happens if the other person in the household signs up. Does it risk one or both of the accounts? Roommates can't have two systems and should share?! Did you read what I actually said or are you just ignoring half of it because you don't like the id...
Who said anything about roommates not being allowed to have two systems? Just making the point that when it is hard to even get one system for them to share it makes sense why until shortages are resolved why they'd limit it to one per household. |
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blockheadjt
sh.itjust.works
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-08-23 |
The lottery is just for the first wave of shipments. After that, it's a reservation queue. It also requires an account that's been active for some period of time, and has made purchases (to try to cut down on scalper accounts).
Is there a source for that? I am on the list but haven't made many purchases |
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degen
midwest.social
degen@midwest.social Joined: 2023-06-15 |
That film was weird. It's like the director decided half-way through, "actually this is too cringe for me, I'm just gonna have fun with it" and then proceeded to wrap things up in a deeply unsatisfying way. I still think about this film.
It's like a 9/10 movie at least, and it's supposed to be unsatisfying or at least unresolved, but I'd argue nothing is too cringe for Curry Barker. Look up their YouTube channel "that's a bad idea" if you want to see just how wacky they are. I love movies that end like that and ones that go off the rails in the last act, leaving you wondering what you just watched. |
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Dettweiler
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-07-20 |
Is there a source for that? I am on the list but haven't made many purchases
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/0AC8-A264-CC02-14F0
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Dettweiler
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-07-20 |
Is there a source for that? I am on the list but haven't made many purchases
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tetris11
feddit.uk
tetris11@feddit.ukJoined: 2025-02-17 |
It's like a 9/10 movie at least, and it's supposed to be unsatisfying or at least unresolved, but I'd argue nothing is too cringe for Curry Barker. Look up their YouTube channel "that's a bad idea" if you want to see just how wacky they are. I love movies that end like that and ones that go off the rails in the last act, leaving you wondering what you just watched.
Definitely left me wondering |
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Chee_Koala
lemmy.world
Chee_Koala@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-11 |
No worries, scalpers can still get their way on the Asian region website. There's no lottery. They released it this morning, and within the hour, all units were sold. I think there was a limit of how many per head you could get, but still, no biggie for scalpers. I managed out of sheer luck to get mine, but definitely a lottery might have been better.
Oof, ok. Whelp, at least you got one :) |
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boonhet
sopuli.xyz
boonhet@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-06-16 |
That film was weird. It's like the director decided half-way through, "actually this is too cringe for me, I'm just gonna have fun with it" and then proceeded to wrap things up in a deeply unsatisfying way. I still think about this film.
Hey the ending had to be as it was to remind you that it was NOT a documentary about your worst ex. Well, maybe just me. There was tons of similarity in behaviour patterns until things went completely off the rails. 'cept mine wasn't bound by a wish, but rather the desire to have complete control over me. Honestly think Nikki was less problematic in that regard, she at least had no choice. |
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FlihpFlorp
piefed.zip
FlihpFlorp@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-07-09 |
Wait, you got your steam controller? I reserved my steam controller back in May and I just now checked and it says I'll get it in 2027 lmao Edit: :(
I believe in your waiting ability It’s very nice, basically the decks extra functionality on a gamepad. Gut feeling tells me once the initial wave of frames are out the back order of controllers will get going (my source is it came to me in a |
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atrielienz
lemmy.world
atrielienz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Can you change your address to a parent or friend's house who won't be buying it? Maybe that's too risky as well
My billing address doesn't change so that's unlikely to work. I have to assume having it shipped somewhere else wouldn't make a difference in the long run because the billing address on the account is what they go by. |
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atrielienz
lemmy.world
atrielienz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Who said anything about roommates not being allowed to have two systems? Just making the point that when it is hard to even get one system for them to share it makes sense why until shortages are resolved why they'd limit it to one per household.
You made the suppositions about units per household. I framed it as roommates because you didn't think through what you were saying. It doesn't matter if it's roommates, spouses or any other permutation of people living in the same house. They shouldn't necessarily be expected to share a PC just because someone else is doing something wrong. I get why Valve did it. I fully remember during the pandemic trying to buy a console and not being able to because of scalpers. But that doesn't negate any of what I said. |
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steelplatedmech
piefed.ca
steelplatedmech@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-07-22 |
You made the suppositions about units per household. I framed it as roommates because you didn't think through what you were saying. It doesn't matter if it's roommates, spouses or any other permutation of people living in the same house. They shouldn't necessarily be expected to share a PC just because someone else is doing something wrong. I get why Valve did it. I fully remember during the p...
Roomates or family are members of a household. One unit per address. I don't see why relations would matter. |
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Cethin
lemmy.zip
Cethin@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-07-01 |
With extremely limited supply anyone that doesn’t get Frame now, will probably have to pay an even higher price whenever stock is back… I remember when tech used to depreciate in price with age.
Yeah, I signed up for a slot, but I had a thought that I'd just wait and get it cheaper later. Then I realized that's not really how things work anymore somehow, and I could probably buy now and resell it higher later, even used, because none of this makes any sense. This is, of course, assuming the current status quo continues. With the recent "AI needs to be restrained" comments from AI execs, it might crash soon and things go back to being sane. |
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