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gedaliyah
lemmy.world
gedaliyah@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-15 |
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Gork
sopuli.xyz
Gork@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-01 |
Rhi fuckin nocerous Ambi fuckin dexterous Po fuckin tay fuckin toes |
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e8CArkcAuLE
piefed.social
e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-12 |
in Spanish you have stressed qué/cómo and normal que/como etc. they are pronounced the same as the difference is in grammar (please don’t ask me for details) in order to know whether is has the tilde (accent) on the vowel, you can use a similar rule: although it’s not a 100% reliable, more details here: |
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spinnetrouble
sh.itjust.works
spinne@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-10 |
in Spanish you have stressed qué/cómo and normal que/como etc. they are pronounced the same as the difference is in grammar (please don’t ask me for details) in order to know whether is has the tilde (accent) on the vowel, you can use a similar rule: if you can put cojones (literally balls, but translates to what the fuck/how the fuck) after it, then it’s with a tilde. although it’s not a 100% ...
These are the tips language learners like me rely on |
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AxExRx
lemmy.world
axexrx@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
in Spanish you have stressed qué/cómo and normal que/como etc. they are pronounced the same as the difference is in grammar (please don’t ask me for details) in order to know whether is has the tilde (accent) on the vowel, you can use a similar rule: if you can put cojones (literally balls, but translates to what the fuck/how the fuck) after it, then it’s with a tilde. although it’s not a 100% ...
Its alsways bothered me a bit that its called a tilde both when its above a letter or on its own Ñ / ~ |
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e8CArkcAuLE
piefed.social
e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-12 |
Its alsways bothered me a bit that its called a tilde both when its above a letter or on its own Ñ / ~
apparently you can say acento (gráfico) but it’s not common, at least in Spain and Argentina. https://spanish.stackexchange.com/questions/21844/es-correcto-llamar-acento-a-una-tilde |
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prettybunnys
piefed.social
prettybunnys@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-10 |
Rhi fuckin nocerous Ambi fuckin dexterous Po fuckin tay fuckin toes
Rhino fuckin cerous |
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DahGangalang
infosec.pub
DahGangalang@infosec.pub Joined: 2023-07-15 |
Rhi fuckin nocerous Ambi fuckin dexterous Po fuckin tay fuckin toes
Whoa, these Po and Tay people sound wild if they're fucking each other while also fucking toes. |
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TheTechnician27
lemmy.world
TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-25 |
Here's Wiktionary's category for 3-syllable English words in case anyone wants to get creative. Edit: I'd argue "adultery" is doable but difficult, because it almost inherently sounds like you're saying three words: "a fucking dultery". Edit 2: "the pu-fucking-trescence" might be my new favorite way to describe a terrible odor. It's so extra. |
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fakeman_pretendname
feddit.uk
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Here's Wiktionary's category for 3-syllable English words in case anyone wants to get creative. Edit: I'd argue "adultery" is doable but difficult, because it almost inherently sounds like you're saying three words: "a fucking dultery". Edit 2: "the pu-fucking-trescence" might be my new favorite way to describe a terrible odor. It's so extra.
I think there's some imposters on that list, else I'm stuck trying to work put how I'd pronounce "danger" with three syllables. |
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Triumph
fedia.io
Triumph@fedia.io Joined: 2025-09-19 |
I forget what the grammatical name for that kind of insertion is, but there is one. There's a ton of rules for writing and speaking English that aren't taught in regular school at all. |
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ZombiFrancis
sh.itjust.works
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-24 |
Fanta Fucking Stic. Hmm... |
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TheTechnician27
lemmy.world
TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-25 |
I think there's some imposters on that list, else I'm stuck trying to work put how I'd pronounce "danger" with three syllables.
That's counting a claimed New Zealand pronunciation of "ˈdæ̝ɪn.d͡ʒə", which does split the first syllable in two. Can't attest to that particular one, but Wiktionary will try to capture different ways of pronouncing words across major variants. Edit: Wait, that shouldn't create a new syllable. Now I'll need to investigate instead of just being confidently wrong. |
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raspberriesareyummy
lemmy.world
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Here's Wiktionary's category for 3-syllable English words in case anyone wants to get creative. Edit: I'd argue "adultery" is doable but difficult, because it almost inherently sounds like you're saying three words: "a fucking dultery". Edit 2: "the pu-fucking-trescence" might be my new favorite way to describe a terrible odor. It's so extra.
I'd argue putrescence is emphasized on the first syllable. But then I'm not a native speaker, so... But Putrescence sounds quite wrong to me. |
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TrackinDaKraken
lemmy.world
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-02-26 |
Do we need a rule for this? I mean, incred-fukin-ible just doesn't work. That's pretty obvious. |
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TheTechnician27
lemmy.world
TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-25 |
I'd argue putrescence is emphasized on the first syllable. But then I'm not a native speaker, so... But Putrescence sounds quite wrong to me.
Yeah, it comes from "putrescent" which has a stressed second syllable. "Quintessence" is a close sibling structurally if that one's less off-putting. |
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spinnetrouble
sh.itjust.works
spinne@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-10 |
Do we need a rule for this? I mean, incred-fukin-ible just doesn't work. That's pretty obvious.
It's obvious to native speakers, but when you're new to it and trying to learn the cadence to help make sense of spoken language, rules like these help |
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prole
lemmy.blahaj.zone
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-11 |
That's counting a claimed New Zealand pronunciation of "ˈdæ̝ɪn.d͡ʒə", which does split the first syllable in two. Can't attest to that particular one, but Wiktionary will try to capture different ways of pronouncing words across major variants. Edit: Wait, that shouldn't create a new syllable. Now I'll need to investigate instead of just being confidently wrong.
I thought elvish was fake, but apparently they do actually use it in NZ |
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rustyricotta
lemmy.dbzer0.com
rustyricotta@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-11-21 |
Fanta Fucking Stic. Hmm...
TA is the stressed syllable here. |
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Ken Oh
feddit.online
KenOh@feddit.onlineJoined: 2025-06-10 |
Un-fucking-believable breaks this. |
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spinnetrouble
sh.itjust.works
spinne@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-10 |
Un-fucking-believable breaks this.
"Un-fucking-believable" is standard usage, but "unbe-fucking-lievable" still works as an alternate. That's when you're down to artistic judgment and choosing which form fits your case best. Mixing it up and using something unexpected is a good way to provide emphasis. |
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0ops
piefed.zip
0ops@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-07-07 |
Un-fucking-believable breaks this.
Unbe-fucking-lievable |
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AxExRx
lemmy.world
axexrx@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
apparently you can say acento (gráfico) but it’s not common, at least in Spain and Argentina. https://spanish.stackexchange.com/questions/21844/es-correcto-llamar-acento-a-una-tilde
I think i just found my answer on Wikipedia, in Spanish specifically, diaceitic marks as a group are referred to as tildes. And the name for the mark above ñ is a virgulila. Also, interestingly, ñ is considered a distinct letter from n, (as opposed to being an 'n' with an added accent) which i didnt realize.... In english (and similarly in french) an accent refers to any of that group of 'characters,' which are commonly referred to as 'glyphs',differentiating them from characters, which would be whole letters that can be used independently) (which i think is what graficos is translating to) known as accent marks, aka diacritics. so á is an 'accute accent mark' (l'accent aigu in Fr) à is an grave accent, â is called a circumflex / accent circomflex and ä is an Umlaut/ trema. Like those last 2, the ñ is not referred to as 'accent tilde' just as 'tilde' (which to me seems fine for the others, but not the ~ because theres no other commonly used character by that name to need to disambiguation from) My problem was that when I took linguistics in college, I was also taking logic. To when the linguistics teacher referred to 'ñ' in english, he called 'tilde n' which was exactly the same phrase the logic professor would use to refer to ~N, aka 'not N'. Making me constantly leap to 'any letter but N,' or 'a theoretical negative/ converse of N' |
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Janx
piefed.social
Janx@piefed.social Joined: 2025-12-19 |
I don't know if I trust a "rule" written in Comic Sans. |
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AMillionMonkeys
lemmy.world
AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-13 |
FYI: Inserting a word in another word like this is known as "tmesis". |
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postmateDumbass
lemmy.world
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Phil - Fuckin - Adelphia. And Adelphia's dad just went to get his gun. |
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Blank
feddit.cl
caradenada@feddit.cl Joined: 2023-06-13 |
FYI: Inserting a word in another word like this is known as "tmesis".
They should've named it something self-referential like "inwordsertion" but less lame. |
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raspberriesareyummy
lemmy.world
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Yeah, it comes from "putrescent" which has a stressed second syllable. "Quintessence" is a close sibling structurally if that one's less off-putting.
well - today I learned. I knew "putrescent", I'd just been saying it with stress on the wrong syllable. Thanks! To be fair, from the linked pronunciation example, putrescent doesn't sound so wrong at all, while quintessence sounds really very very wrong :D We do have Quintessenz in German which is stressed on the first syllable, so that's probably why. |
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Viking_Hippie
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-04 |
That's counting a claimed New Zealand pronunciation of "ˈdæ̝ɪn.d͡ʒə", which does split the first syllable in two. Can't attest to that particular one, but Wiktionary will try to capture different ways of pronouncing words across major variants. Edit: Wait, that shouldn't create a new syllable. Now I'll need to investigate instead of just being confidently wrong.
Oof! Hate it when that happens! |
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deadbeef79000
lemmy.nz
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz Joined: 2023-06-17 |
That’s counting a claimed New Zealand pronunciation of “ˈdæ̝ɪn.d͡ʒə”, I thought elvish was fake, but apparently they do actually use it in NZ
We looked at the most egregious American and rural English village pronunciations and went "huld muh burr..." |
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Ferroto
lemmy.world
Ferroto@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-01-21 |
Ricky would ace this course. |
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MoffKalast
lemmy.world
MoffKalast@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-02 |
Unbe-fucking-lievable
Ngl that still works |
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glorkon
lemmy.world
glorkon@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-08-06 |
Fun fact: Eddie Izzard once came to Berlin and did comedy gigs in German language. My favourite creation of his: Ausgefuckingzeichnet! |
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Westcoastdg
lemmy.ca
Westcoastdg@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-08-09 |
Do we need a rule for this? I mean, incred-fukin-ible just doesn't work. That's pretty obvious.
I would argue it's actually in fuckin credible, which does work |
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BonkTheAnnoyed
lemmy.blahaj.zone
BonkTheAnnoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-08-13 |
Awesome! Now express it in a T-rule |
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bdonvr
thelemmy.club
bdonvr@thelemmy.clubJoined: 2023-06-14 |
I think i just found my answer on Wikipedia, in Spanish specifically, diaceitic marks as a group are referred to as tildes. And the name for the mark above ñ is a virgulila. Also, interestingly, ñ is considered a distinct letter from n, (as opposed to being an 'n' with an added accent) which i didnt realize.... In english (and similarly in french) an accent refers to any of that group of 'chara...
Yep, it's part of the alphabet. N (enn) then Ñ (ennyay). Also fun fact the alphabet is sometimes called the abecedario which is an amazing term IMO. It's like a pun with the first four letters. ABCDario Spanish also uses Ü! But it's not a letter on its own. |
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marzhall
lemmy.world
marzhall@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-04 |
Do we need a rule for this? I mean, incred-fukin-ible just doesn't work. That's pretty obvious.
It's a descriptive rule, not a prescriptive rule, and likely one snuck into the powerpoint to try and get the class thinking and laughing. Like calling the descriptions of gravity the "laws of gravity", it describes something about the world we've seen, but there's no Physics Police enforcing all matter follow the "Laws" - it's just the term we use for a description of how things work. A lot of advanced English classes are much more on the descriptivist side of things - observing patterns in ways we use language - than the prescriptivist approach we get in grade school where we're just learning rote things like spellings. |
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BlueFootedPetey
sh.itjust.works
peteypete420@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-03-12 |
As a philly boy i gotta say, iv never heard it prounounced that way. |
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monkeyslikebananas2
lemmy.world
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
Phil - Fuckin - Adelphia. And Adelphia's dad just went to get his gun.
Philadelphi - Fuckin - A |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
that assumes you are speaking in iambic and I have issues with that assumption |
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lemmy.world
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-11-03 |
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qwerty
discuss.tchncs.de
qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-06-12 |
What if you say it with an Italian accent? It'sa me, Philadel-fucking-phia! |
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nonentity
sh.itjust.works
nonentity@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-06-12 |
So the syllable needs to be edging before the fucking insertion. |
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Gork
sopuli.xyz
Gork@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-01 |
This is why we don't have to conjugate our verbs, we make up for it with this very strict word order. It's also probably why English as a Second Language is so difficult aside from the inconsistencies and exceptions. |
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Apeman42
lemmy.world
Apeman42@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
Ehh... I like the spirit of this, but it's not quite as immalleable as they say. You can have green great dragons if "great dragons" are a distinct thing from simply dragons. Like how in Game of Thrones, you'd say Ghost is a "white dire wolf", not a "dire white wolf". |
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lemmy.world
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-11-03 |
This is why we don't have to conjugate our verbs, we make up for it with this very strict word order. It's also probably why English as a Second Language is so difficult aside from the inconsistencies and exceptions.
Pronouns are the last bastion of inflection in English, and it's fun to see English-speakers being perpetually confused about them. Namely about ‘I’/‘me’ and ‘who’/‘whom’. Since the word order and particles already handle the meaning of sentences, people don't quite know why they need to modify the pronouns too. And don't have the vocabulary for the rules, as grammatical cases are long forgotten. |
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YTG123
sopuli.xyz
ytg@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2024-03-11 |
Un-fucking-believable breaks this.
There’s a morpheme boundary here, probably has something to do with it. The examples in the post have no morpheme boundary before the main stress, or at least not one that’s transparent to English speakers (ab/solu/te/ly might hypothetically have been more transparent to a Latin speaker though) |
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mrgoosmoos
lemmy.ca
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-24 |
Ehh... I like the spirit of this, but it's not quite as immalleable as they say. You can have green great dragons if "great dragons" are a distinct thing from simply dragons. Like how in Game of Thrones, you'd say Ghost is a "white dire wolf", not a "dire white wolf".
in that case, "great dragon" is the noun, and is consistent with the proposed rule |
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OddMinus1
sh.itjust.works
OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Abso-no-fucking-lutely way |
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exasperation
lemmy.dbzer0.com
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-05 |
in that case, "great dragon" is the noun, and is consistent with the proposed rule
Yeah, that's just an open compound word, like "emperor penguin" or "hammerhead shark." We have open compounds where the component words are separated by a space, hyphenated compounds (not super common with animals but can be seen in words like "mother-in-law") where the words are separated by a hyphen, and closed compounds that just stick the two words together ("kingfisher," "anteater"). |
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pawb.social
Kolanaki@pawb.socialJoined: 2024-10-06 |
Straw-fuckin-berry. |
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