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sylver_dragon lemmy.world sylver_dragon@lemmy.world
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Sarajevo Safari is the name for an alleged war tourism phenomenon during the siege of Sarajevo (1992–1996) involving human hunting. According to the reports, wealthy foreign nationals were enabled, for large monetary fees, to shoot at civilians in the besieged city with sniper rifles for entertainment purposes.

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TrackinDaKraken lemmy.world DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world
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Money/power corrupts.

If you've had a taste of power at work, say in middle management, you probably know what I mean. Imagine that 1000X stronger. Hand almost anyone a billion dollars, and they'll quickly lose their compassion and empathy.

You're not immune, you just don't have access.

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20cello lemmy.world 20cello@lemmy.world
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#3 · Quote Reply

Eat the rich

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asdfasdf98765 lemmy.dbzer0.com furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#4 · Quote Reply

Eat the rich

first put them into a safari and hunt them

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jobbies lemmy.zip jobbies@lemmy.zip
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#5 · Quote Reply

Eat the rich

Nah. But I'd happily feed them to a lion.

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queerlilhayseed piefed.blahaj.zone queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

Money/power corrupts. If you've had a taste of power at work, say in middle management, you probably know what I mean. Imagine that 1000X stronger. Hand almost anyone a billion dollars, and they'll quickly lose their compassion and empathy. You're not immune, you just don't have access.

I don't think that's wrong, exactly, but I think it's an oversimplification. Most poor people who win huge lotteries don't become sinister tycoons, they spend the money and then go back to being poor. Sort of like how when Smeagol and Bilbo and Frodo and Sam wear the one ring, they don't gather armies unto themselves and conquer Middle Earth. They don't know how, and they don't want to learn. I think the corruption of power requires two elements: a knowledge of the cruel mechanisms by which power accumulates, and a will to exercise those mechanisms.

The more one knows about the mechanisms of manipulation, I suspect, the greater the temptation to use them becomes, because the true awesome scope of the power becomes clearer in your mind. Suspect, because I have never enjoyed the option of declining to use massive wealth or political influence. I have had the smallest possible serving of this malignant thing: I once held the title of Manager. It's a small sliver of capitalist power, and while much (if not all) of the power of that role is illusory, the title can confer a small amount of real power over other people. The small decisions I made had huge consequences for the people I had been assigned to manage. When submitting performance evaluations I had to consider the consequences my teammate might face if they lost their job. The temptation to use it for gain is subtle, and justifications for abuse come almost effortlessly to mind. Not abusing power is work, and it's not fun work. It's much easier to just relax, and make decisions as they come, and not worry too much about whether every little decision is fully morally justified. It's so, so easy.

I think it's kind of like a drug in that once you start habitually abusing power, you become dependent on it and have to keep doing it to keep the teetering tower of your own reputation from collapsing. You get to the point where not abusing power is so far from the realm of viable options that you stop even thinking about it as an option, and when you can't even imagine life beyond the cocoon of misery you have spun around yourself, you have been enthralled by power and cannot escape. You are a wraith.

Power is horrifying.

P.S. If by chance there's anyone reading this thinking that they can't imagine a life beyond the mountain of abuses and bad decisions their life has become, that they have become a wraith and are beyond hope: I think you give yourself too little credit. Wraiths can never consider the idea that they are wraiths. If you can as the question "Am I beyond hope?", the answer is "I am not beyond hope." It's not easy; you will have to do a lot of work and you will probably need to ask for help along the way. It's not fun. It's work. It's worth doing, but you have to actually do it and not just imagine doing it for it to get done.

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CIA_chatbot lemmy.world CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world
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#7 · Quote Reply

Welp, that’s enough fucking internet today

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clanker_victim_555 lemmy.world clanker_victim_555@lemmy.world
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#8 · Quote Reply

Eat the rich

They don't contain enough calories to feed the hungry. That's why we need to tax them out of existence.

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axh lemmy.world axh@lemmy.world
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#9 · Quote Reply

And I'm sure they all went to prison later... Right? Right?!

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yucandu lemmy.world yucandu@lemmy.world
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#10 · (edited) Quote Reply

Money/power corrupts. If you've had a taste of power at work, say in middle management, you probably know what I mean. Imagine that 1000X stronger. Hand almost anyone a billion dollars, and they'll quickly lose their compassion and empathy. You're not immune, you just don't have access.

"Don't try to tell me how some power can corrupt a person

You haven't had enough to know what it's like

You're only angry 'cause you wish you were in my position

Now nod your head because you know that I'm right, all right?"

Trent said it with a little more whimsy.

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saimen feddit.org saimen@feddit.org
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#11 · Quote Reply

Eat the rich

Yuck

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ceenote lemmy.world ceenote@lemmy.world
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#12 · Quote Reply

Nah. But I'd happily feed them to a lion.

Are you sure OP isn't a lion?

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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#13 · Quote Reply

And I'm sure they all went to prison later... Right? Right?!

Italian investigators dragged their feet for 30 years, now the killers are all dead.

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Anh Kagi jlai.lu anhkagi@jlai.lu
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#14 · (edited) Quote Reply

Saw a small documentary about it (even if it wouldn't surprize me that much).
Apparently no actual evidences found, and that only served to divert attention from the crimes that were actually committed by the army against civilians.

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20cello lemmy.world 20cello@lemmy.world
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#15 · Quote Reply

Saw a small documentary about it (even if it wouldn't surprize me that much). Apparently no actual evidences found, and that only served to divert attention from the crimes that were actually committed by the army against civilians.

Interesting, any link to that video?

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20cello lemmy.world 20cello@lemmy.world
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#16 · Quote Reply

Yuck

I'd cook them first of course

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20cello lemmy.world 20cello@lemmy.world
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#17 · Quote Reply

They don't contain enough calories to feed the hungry. That's why we need to tax them out of existence.

Yep,also cap any single person richness to 10 million

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psx_crab lemmy.zip psx_crab@lemmy.zip
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#18 · Quote Reply

I'd cook them first of course

No thanks, too much fat, and also prion disease that cause the rotten brain in the first place. I'll feed the ants.

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saimen feddit.org saimen@feddit.org
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#19 · Quote Reply

I'd cook them first of course

Aren't they full of drugs and Botox?

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Anh Kagi jlai.lu anhkagi@jlai.lu
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#20 · Quote Reply

Interesting, any link to that video?

It's just a short news report in French: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yhdUkPF0d8Y

To be clear, I don't know if the safaris by tourists actually took place. The video mentions potential mercenaries.

I haven't read much on the subject, but in any case, the massacres did take place, and the perpetrators must be prosecuted, whether they are military, mercenaries, or foreign civilians.

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Smaile lemmy.ca Smaile@lemmy.ca
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#21 · Quote Reply

This is why cameras are importent, much harder to get away with shit like this, who know how many times things like this happened and people got away with it completely.

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Diddlydee feddit.uk Diddlydee@feddit.uk
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#22 · Quote Reply

Possibly. It has been suggested and investigated, but there is no definite evidence of this, and the two named sources in the book about it give conflicting info, all of it second hand.

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Hubi feddit.org Hubi@feddit.org
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#23 · Quote Reply

Saw a small documentary about it (even if it wouldn't surprize me that much). Apparently no actual evidences found, and that only served to divert attention from the crimes that were actually committed by the army against civilians.

Exactly, this is an urban legend and I hate seeing it being presented as facts in this post.

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Malica lemmy.zip Malica@lemmy.zip
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#24 · Quote Reply

Italian investigators dragged their feet for 30 years, now the killers are all dead.

Just Serbia things

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spankysalmon fedinsfw.app spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app
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#25 · Quote Reply

Money/power corrupts. If you've had a taste of power at work, say in middle management, you probably know what I mean. Imagine that 1000X stronger. Hand almost anyone a billion dollars, and they'll quickly lose their compassion and empathy. You're not immune, you just don't have access.

I'm willing to prove you wrong. Where's my billion?

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ChunkMcHorkle lemmy.world ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world
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#26 · (edited) Quote Reply

Saw a small documentary about it (even if it wouldn't surprize me that much). Apparently no actual evidences found, and that only served to divert attention from the crimes that were actually committed by the army against civilians.

The Wikipedia article is well sourced, and the multiple investigations managed to name both individuals and right-wing groups.

Maybe the better question to ask is who funded the documentary that says no evidence was ever found, because clearly some was, enough to fuel multiple international investigations.

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Ch3rry314 piefed.social Ch3rry314@piefed.social
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#27 · Quote Reply

Are you sure OP isn't a lion?

On the internet, nobody knows you're a lion.

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BlueOysterCultist lemmy.zip BlueOysterCultist@lemmy.zip
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#28 · Quote Reply

Money/power corrupts. If you've had a taste of power at work, say in middle management, you probably know what I mean. Imagine that 1000X stronger. Hand almost anyone a billion dollars, and they'll quickly lose their compassion and empathy. You're not immune, you just don't have access.

Is it corruption if I understand I’d be a beneficial dictator from day 1, if I had that power?

Billionaires, and a lotttt of other people, have the guillotine coming

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ruekk fedinsfw.app ruekk@fedinsfw.app
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#29 · Quote Reply

Eat the rich

Torture and enslave the rich

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axh lemmy.world axh@lemmy.world
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#30 · Quote Reply

Italian investigators dragged their feet for 30 years, now the killers are all dead.

Italian investigators dragged them REDACTED the killers are all dead.

Justice served!

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derAbsender piefed.social derAbsender@piefed.social
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#31 · Quote Reply

Eat the rich

They always wanted to genocide us.

They still want to exterminate us.

We need to be faster than them.

They cause global warming, they cause wars, they cause the economic framework that destroys health, education, housing.

They do not hide their intentions anymore.

This is would not be murder, neither a Revolution, IT would be self defense.

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LittleBorat3 lemmy.world LittleBorat3@lemmy.world
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#32 · Quote Reply

Italian investigators dragged their feet for 30 years, now the killers are all dead.

I was going to say some Italians are accused.... Oh well...

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Phoenixz lemmy.ca phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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#33 · Quote Reply

Eat the rich

Well yes but this has always been claimed but never been proven, which is kind of an important thing

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LittleBorat3 lemmy.world LittleBorat3@lemmy.world
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#34 · Quote Reply

This is why cameras are importent, much harder to get away with shit like this, who know how many times things like this happened and people got away with it completely.

This was filmed in the 90s you can watch videos of people running across the street being shot at

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merdaverse lemmy.zip merdaverse@lemmy.zip
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#35 · Quote Reply

Possibly. It has been suggested and investigated, but there is no definite evidence of this, and the two named sources in the book about it give conflicting info, all of it second hand.

The Italian investigation found one case with significant evidence

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crashfrog lemmy.world crashfrog@lemmy.world
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#36 · Quote Reply

Yep,also cap any single person richness to 10 million

You mean $2000

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crashfrog lemmy.world crashfrog@lemmy.world
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#37 · Quote Reply

The Wikipedia article is well sourced, and the multiple investigations managed to name both individuals and right-wing groups. Maybe the better question to ask is who funded the documentary that says no evidence was ever found, because clearly some was, enough to fuel multiple international investigations.

“Investigations” aren’t the same as “conclusions.” Naming people just means accusing them.

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BeardededSquidward lemmy.blahaj.zone BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#38 · Quote Reply

They don't contain enough calories to feed the hungry. That's why we need to tax them out of existence.

They'll always take advantage of people in some way. We can't abide the existence of them.

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𝙈𝙞𝙖 quokk.au Quokka@quokk.au
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#39 · (edited) Quote Reply

They don't contain enough calories to feed the hungry. That's why we need to tax them out of existence.

Taxing them is not enough. The capitalist system will continue to enable them to amass power and wealth to overturn any limit on their power in due time.

We must remove the concept of money, private ownership, and wealth in it’s entirety.

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protist Member Joined: 2026-03-10
#40 · (edited) Quote Reply

The Italian investigation found one case with significant evidence

Prosecutors said the evidence seized included a photo of the suspect with technical equipment and a silencer.

Maybe there's more? This is hardly "significant," a picture of a man with a gun at an unknown time and location. This is the only evidence cited

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Smaile lemmy.ca Smaile@lemmy.ca
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#41 · (edited) Quote Reply

This was filmed in the 90s you can watch videos of people running across the street being shot at

And nobody filmed the people shooting?
Good thing we have better lenses now...

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20cello lemmy.world 20cello@lemmy.world
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#42 · Quote Reply

Aren't they full of drugs and Botox?

Yeah,probably not the best food

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20cello lemmy.world 20cello@lemmy.world
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#43 · Quote Reply

They always wanted to genocide us. They still want to exterminate us. We need to be faster than them. They cause global warming, they cause wars, they cause the economic framework that destroys health, education, housing. They do not hide their intentions anymore. This is would not be murder, neither a Revolution, IT would be self defense.

Agreed,we're under attack for so long...

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20cello lemmy.world 20cello@lemmy.world
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#44 · Quote Reply

It's just a short news report in French: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yhdUkPF0d8Y To be clear, I don't know if the safaris by tourists actually took place. The video mentions potential mercenaries. I haven't read much on the subject, but in any case, the massacres did take place, and the perpetrators must be prosecuted, whether they are military, mercenaries, or foreign civilians.

Thanks 😊

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LittleBorat3 lemmy.world LittleBorat3@lemmy.world
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#45 · Quote Reply

And nobody filmed the people shooting? Good thing we have better lenses now...

War criminals are not that smart but I guess they did not film themselves with camcorders back then.
Crazy concept I know.

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CactusEcho piefed.social CactusEcho@piefed.social
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#46 · Quote Reply

Isn't that a recent accusation that it's still being investigated?

Sarajevo Safari is the name for an alleged war tourism

So it's not proven that happened.

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CactusEcho piefed.social CactusEcho@piefed.social
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#47 · Quote Reply

This was filmed in the 90s you can watch videos of people running across the street being shot at

True, but that doesn't mean it was war tourists doing the shooting.

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chiliedogg lemmy.world chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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#48 · (edited) Quote Reply

Prosecutors said the evidence seized included a photo of the suspect with technical equipment and a silencer. Maybe there's more? This is hardly "significant," a picture of a man with a gun at an unknown time and location. This is the only evidence cited

There's pictures of me with a silenced rifle, and I definitely never hunted people in Sarajevo in the 90s.

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sportsjorts lemmy.zip sportsjorts@lemmy.zip
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#49 · Quote Reply

Rich people are a blight upon the earth. They have destroyed the earth and deserve no sympathy.

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Mouselemming sh.itjust.works Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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#50 · Quote Reply

There's pictures of me with a silenced rifle, and I definitely never hunted people in Sarajevo in the 90s.

Oddly specific.

Where and when DID you hunt people, then?

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anon_8675309 lemmy.world anon_8675309@lemmy.world
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#51 · Quote Reply

War criminals are not that smart but I guess they did not film themselves with camcorders back then. Crazy concept I know.

Today they film themselves with drones for that full aerial shot.

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