I thought this was a win for anon?

This was their awakening.

Black metal bands : nazi

Classic rock artists : pedophiles

Inquisition : both

It's not just music. It's hard to find guilt free enjoyment in almost anything nowadays. Someone involved in its creation will almost inevitably be a turbo-cunt somehow.

You can enjoy art without getting caught up on the artist's views and actions

The way you phrased it makes me feel like this is one of Hitlers..

It is, but it's a bad example because Hitler's paintings are shit.

Usually I agree, my one exception is Lost Prophets. Ian Watkins crimes were so awful that now when I've tried to listen to their first album (which I loved at release) I just feel sick.

I also got one of these this week

Sometimes, yes, but then you have this terrible painting and read the name on bottom right say D. Trump

I've come to the conclusion that being an ethical consumer is probably impossible. I will however still try. Perfection is the enemy of progress and all that.

Shortly before kanye's nazi controversy, Spotify was pushing him hard, lol

You don't have to solely trust your gut. You can also read the bottom right corner.

I learned about Grimes from her spot in Cyberpunk 2077. Excited at the potential well of new music I looked her up and first result is a divorce with Musk.

Come on, man.

That's not even an original art style. I bet if you ask around 1/1000 grandma's can paint you that.

Heeey, I didn't notice that. Thanks!

We’ve seen trump’s art style and it’s not anywhere near this skilled

And that's why I haven't bothered listening to much music since around 2010

At least it's a divorce

1990 heavy metal scene flasbacks

Have you seen The Good Place by any chance?

Well, for there to be a divorce, there needs to be a wedding. 😬

She definitely thought he was a viable human being at some point though.

It's cool they can span multiple genres like that

They divorced, and she's not a big fan of him now, to be diplomatic about it

Same thing... Looked up who voiced the lisping rockstar in game because it seemed so peculiar to me. And its just... her. Really soured me on Lizzy.

Yes, but

I think it's a good example because art is subjective and liking this picture doesn't mean you're a nazi.

And yes his art is shit.
But to each their own.

Guilt-free is impossible if you pay for it. Pirating though, you can draw the line yourself. Like for example Harry Porter the movie is a combination of multiple talented people, i don't attribute all those to a single cunt, and pirating mean i can avoid paying that cunt while also acknowledging the talent that contributed to this whole series(by watching their other works, but i'm also a massive cunt as i pirate everything and not paying streaming service a single cent)

Don't really like the series anyway, the setting is pretty nice though. Will still avoid media from people who crossed that line though.

TIL Watkins was killed in prison

Do people forget that so did the rest of society at large before he publicly went off the deep end?

"there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism"

It's been a known concept in leftist theory for a long while.

Something something separate art from the artist something something

From what I’ve read it didn’t begin until, like, after their third album. So that’s how I rationalize it, and I hate saying that. But Fake Sound of Progress and Start Something were utterly formative for me, so I’ve gotta cope.

listens to his music even more

Can't be traumatizing kids if he's busy making music for me lol

Noone goes from being a normal, functioning, non-paedophile adult to raping babies in a couple of years. That shit escalates over a long time so I don't buy that there weren't signs before then.

The band mates and label etc may have not realised how depraved he would go on to become but there were 100% signs he had an unnatural interest in children.

mehh, I'm not that interested in moral filtering with that much granularity tbh.

I really think everyone should pirate books and just donate to authors who need it. You bypass all the publishers and any nonsense connected to it, and if the authors suck you can find that out before eonating. Like if you buy Sanderson books you are tithing to his stupid anti-LGBT church.

I would think that she would have a better understanding of him and his character prior to getting married than the public at large. I've never been in a room with him, much less had a conversation or spent time together.

Impossible to do in its entirety, the self is always wrapped up in the art it produces to some degree.

For those saying "it's a divorce," when accused of being a Nazi, Grimes replied she was "happily proud of white culture."

They had enough in common to get married.

The meaning of art is up to the audience, not the creator.

For the last few years, plenty of people are finding out their loved ones and close friends have hidden sides to them they did not see before. Why is it that she couldn't have been one of those people?

Yeah but then you also have artists like J K Rowling who have laid out, in no uncertain terms, that significant amounts of their fortunes are going straight to harming marginalized communities.

Rowling, in this example, has started an anti trans charity that does not accept external donations, it is fueled solely by Harry Potter money. The only way I'm going to be able to enjoy anything in this vein is if I know that she's not seeing a dime out of it.

YoU NeEd tO LeArN To sEpArAtE ThE ArT FrOm tHe aRtIsT

I'm not paying money to nazis when non nazis are available

currently on a big years long philosophy kick and yeah. just started reading some Heidegger. Fucker was an unapologetic nazi. Son of a bitch.

Sorta related, but I was trying to remember a song the other day where a guy is proposing to a woman. I eventually realized it was "On My Way" (2012) by Passion Pit. So I decided to go to wikipedia to see if it was based on real events, and it was. But then the story goes wonky.

Michael Angelakos wrote the song to propose to his then girlfriend Kristy Mucci. But while engaged to Mucci, he started also dating Madeleine Dubus. He became a drunk and drug addict and was abusive towards Mucci and Dubus. He still married Mucci in 2013, but they announced they were divorcing in 2015. Later that year, Angelakos announced he was gay. In 2018, he came out as bisexual.

In 2025, he said he took too many shrooms and wrote a long email to Dubus that prompted a wellness check on him. Months later, he married Dubus and she became his manager. That same year, he wrote a series of essays, much of which were about his inability to clean up after himself at home and the problems that causes. He also described "snorting a billion grams of ketamine."

Anyway, it kinda takes the song down a notch for me.

Okay so pirate it, what's the biggie

part of this, not all of it, is if you take the average person and put a microscope on their life, it turns out they are not flawless