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Lead Lemmy developer dessalines@lemmy.ml Appears to Have Had Their Account Compromised After Moderation Actions Raise Serious Concerns
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Autonomous User lemmy.world autonomoususer@lemmy.world
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Cross posted here as it was highlighted that the individual is a lead Lemmy developer, raising serious concerns about the direction of Lemmy, a leading Fediverse platform, and the impact on future user adoption.

Hi

There have been some rather concerning actions taken by an admin of the !privacy@lemmy.ml community, dessalines@lemmy.ml. Based on recent moderation decisions and a complete lack of communication, it seems like their account may have been compromised, or even more concerning if these actions are deliberate.

  1. Erroneous Rule 4 Enforcement, First Instance: a guide posted to !privacy@lemmy.ml, despite receiving many positive votes and comments, was removed under Rule 4:

If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered

However, this post was a guide and not a question, so Rule 4 does not apply. Attempts were made to reach out for clarification but there has been no response, despite their account showing recent activity.

  1. Erroneous Rule 4 Enforcement, Second Instance: an on-topic informational video also posted to !privacy@lemmy.ml, despite also receiving many positive votes, was again removed under Rule 4. This post was again not asking a question, so again Rule 4 does not apply. Again, no explanation has been given.

  2. User Bans in Completely Unrelated Communities: user bans of over a month have been applied for not only !privacy@lemmy.ml but several completely unrelated communities:

  • !emacs@lemmy.ml
  • !personalfinance@lemmy.ml
  • !linux@lemmy.ml
  • !lemmy_support@lemmy.ml
  • !opensource@lemmy.ml
  • !india@lemmy.ml
  • !asklemmy@lemmy.ml
  • !steam@lemmy.ml
  • !linux_gaming@lemmy.ml
  • !degoogle@lemmy.ml
  • !libre_software@lemmy.ml

This is especially concerning given that the above posts have no relation to these communities, and no recent activity has been made in any of them, meaning none of their rules could have been broken. Moreover, a public track record of positive contributions across Lemmy has been established, with many positive votes and comments received over a sustained period. Given all of this, the bans appear to be highly disproportionate, only adding to the growing concerns around moderation practices.

  1. Repost with Disclaimer Removed: a repost of the guide, despite a disclaimer explaining the original removal appears to be in error and that attempts to contact the admin have failed, despite again receiving many positive votes and constructive comments, was once again removed. Again, no explanation has been given.

Given all of this, itโ€™s hard to avoid the conclusion that something is not right. Mistakes in moderation happen but the complete lack of communication, the disproportionate actions, and the ongoing bans from unrelated communities raise serious concerns. It seems as though the account is most likely compromised, or even more concerning if these actions are deliberate.

Has anyone else experienced similar issues with this admin, or does anyone have more insight into what might be happening?

TL;DR: Admin dessalines@lemmy.ml of !privacy@lemmy.ml appears to be making seriously concerning moderation decisions, including erroneous enforcement of Rule 4 in at least two separate instances, failing to respond to messages, and applying user bans in completely unrelated communities despite a long track record of positive contributions across Lemmy. This has led to speculation that their account is likely compromised, or even more concerning if these actions are deliberate.

Any thoughts or similar experiences would be appreciated.

Cross post with https://lemmy.world/post/43944126

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Sanctus anarchist.nexus Sanctus@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-09-08
#2 · Quote Reply

He didn't have his account hacked.

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owenfromcanada lemmy.ca owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-04-18
#3 · Quote Reply

4511

dessalines is known for questionable moderation. Avoid the .ml communities when possible.

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ShellMonkey piefed.socdojo.com ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com
Joined: 2025-09-09
#4 · Quote Reply

Multi comms is likely an instance ban, which they hand out freely on the .ml instance for anyone not in line with their ideology.

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masterspace lemmy.ca masterspace@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-22
#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

This is literally how he always acts. There's a reason that many instances do not federate with lemmy.ml, his instance.

He's incredibly pro communist, pro Russia, pro China, and will ban you for even mentioning that something could be foreign propaganda.

At the end of the day, hopefully your instance builds their server code from source and inspects it to make sure there's nothing nefarious. It would be nice to use a decentralized Reddit like platform not coded by him, but no one else has the time, resources, ability, and/or dedication, to step up.

I would still rather use Lemmy over Reddit, though I did switch to donating to piefed, the Canadian instance runners, over donating to him.

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Autonomous User lemmy.world autonomoususer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#6 · Quote Reply

Multi comms is likely an instance ban, which they hand out freely on the .ml instance for anyone not in line with their ideology.

The above is a complete list. I would have expected to see more than 12 communities for that.

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oce ๐Ÿ† jlai.lu oce@jlai.lu
Joined: 2023-07-07
#7 · Quote Reply

You have been a user for 3 years at least, surely you have heard about the tankie situation on Lemmy? If you don't share these views it's better to ignore/block those three or four instances. It will make your Lemmy experience much more relaxing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

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scytale piefed.zip scytale@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-07-16
#8 · Quote Reply

This is literally how he always acts. There's a reason that many instances do not federate with lemmy.ml, his instance. He's incredibly pro communist, pro Russia, pro China, and will ban you for even mentioning that something could be foreign propaganda. At the end of the day, hopefully your instance builds their server code from source and inspects it to make sure there's nothing nefarious. It...

It would be nice to use a decentralized Reddit like platform not coded by him, but no one else has the time, resources, ability, and/or dedication, to step up.

You literally mentioned piefed in your next sentence.

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drkt scribe.disroot.org drkt@scribe.disroot.org
Joined: 2024-11-05
#9 · Quote Reply

ml users are just like that

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mrmaplebar fedia.io mrmaplebar@fedia.io
Joined: 2025-09-27
#10 · Quote Reply

It would be nice to use a decentralized Reddit like platform not coded by him, but no one else has the time, resources, ability, and/or dedication, to step up. You literally mentioned piefed in your next sentence.

Mbin also exists...

Also, to be fair, the software isn't necessarily problematic like the moderation is. No point throwing the baby out with the bath water.

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snooggums piefed.world snooggums@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-07-08
#11 · Quote Reply

The above is a complete list. I would have expected to see more than 12 communities for that.

It sometimes only shows if the user has posted or voted or something like that in the listed communites. Can't remember exactly what, but there is something that limits what communities are listed when someone is instance banned, which for lemmy shows as a bunch of community bans.

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realitaetsverlust piefed.zip realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-12-04
#12 · Quote Reply

Lmao no. That guy is just a fucking nutjob. It's nothing new really. The only thing compromised is his brain really.

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AmidFuror fedia.io AmidFuror@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-03-11
#13 · Quote Reply

That user had his brain compromised years ago.

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lumpenproletariat quokk.au Deceptichum@quokk.au
Joined: 2025-06-09
Banned
#14 · Quote Reply

[removed by moderator]
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Die4Ever retrolemmy.com Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com
Joined: 2024-05-06
#15 · Quote Reply

This is literally how he always acts. There's a reason that many instances do not federate with lemmy.ml, his instance. He's incredibly pro communist, pro Russia, pro China, and will ban you for even mentioning that something could be foreign propaganda. At the end of the day, hopefully your instance builds their server code from source and inspects it to make sure there's nothing nefarious. It...

It would be nice to use a decentralized Reddit like platform not coded by him, but no one else has the time, resources, ability, and/or dedication, to step up.

piefed, the Canadian instance runners

PieFed and Mbin don't share any code with Lemmy at all, they're in totally different programming languages

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fonix232 fedia.io fonix232@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-13
#16 · Quote Reply

Mbin also exists... Also, to be fair, the software isn't necessarily problematic like the moderation is. No point throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Power tripping people rarely limit themselves to power trip on a single angle.

And while Lemmy's open source, it's a big enough codebase for someone to add a bit of admin override that can go unnoticed for quite a while. Just remember what happened with xz.

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fonix232 fedia.io fonix232@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-13
#17 · Quote Reply

What I find quite ironic is that dessalines started Lemmy to get away from the perceived over-moderation of Reddit... only to do the exact same thing.

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Triumph fedia.io Triumph@fedia.io
Joined: 2025-09-19
#18 · Quote Reply

What I find quite ironic is that dessalines started Lemmy to get away from the perceived over-moderation of Reddit... only to do the exact same thing.

*Overmoderation as perceived by a tankie.

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Zangoose lemmy.world Zangoose@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#19 · Quote Reply

It would be nice to use a decentralized Reddit like platform not coded by him, but no one else has the time, resources, ability, and/or dedication, to step up. You literally mentioned piefed in your next sentence.

Tbf Piefed also does have opinionated moderation literally hardcoded into the source code.

It's pretty easy to modify since it's python and not rust, but still not great

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Zagorath aussie.zone Zagorath@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-06-15
#20 · Quote Reply

Power tripping people rarely limit themselves to power trip on a single angle. And while Lemmy's open source, it's a big enough codebase for someone to add a bit of admin override that can go unnoticed for quite a while. Just remember what happened with xz.

What's xz?

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Zagorath aussie.zone Zagorath@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-06-15
#21 · Quote Reply

Mbin also exists... Also, to be fair, the software isn't necessarily problematic like the moderation is. No point throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Worth noting that Lemmy receives at least some institutional funding for its development. And I believe some of that funding is contingent on hitting active user goals or similar metrics.

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BlackLaZoR lemmy.world BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-26
#22 · Quote Reply

.ml stands for marxist-lenninist. Why are you even there?

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fonix232 fedia.io fonix232@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-13
#23 · Quote Reply

What's xz?

A utility package for Linux that MANY packages depend on, often including core distro/system packages. It implements LZMA de/compression. Meaning it would come pre-installed on many, many distros.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XZ_Utils_backdoor

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flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc) feddit.uk flamingos@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-06-12
#24 · Quote Reply

You were instance banned under lemmy.ml's rule 4, not the privacy community's rule 4. ml's rule 4 is "No Ads / Spamming". This seems to have been prompted by you reposting a removed post, which frankly seems fair despite what I think of ml's moderation normally.

Rule 4 does seem to be a bad reason to remove the original post, though I think it should've been removed simply for how cringe 'cuckloading' is as a term. Stop trying to link sexual deviancy to moral deficiency.

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Grail multiverse.soulism.net Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
Joined: 2026-01-14
#25 · Quote Reply

This is literally how he always acts. There's a reason that many instances do not federate with lemmy.ml, his instance. He's incredibly pro communist, pro Russia, pro China, and will ban you for even mentioning that something could be foreign propaganda. At the end of the day, hopefully your instance builds their server code from source and inspects it to make sure there's nothing nefarious. It...

Piefed isn't the canadian instance runners, you're thinking of fedecan

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admin scrapetacular.ydns.eu admin@scrapetacular.ydns.eu
Joined: 2026-02-16
#26 · Quote Reply

Tbf Piefed also does have opinionated moderation literally hardcoded into the source code. It's pretty easy to modify since it's python and not rust, but still not great

In b4 discussion of what constitutes hardcoding

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orgrinrt lemmy.world orgrinrt@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#27 · (edited) Quote Reply

You were instance banned under lemmy.ml's rule 4, not the privacy community's rule 4. ml's rule 4 is "No Ads / Spamming". This seems to have been prompted by you reposting a removed post, which frankly seems fair despite what I think of ml's moderation normally. Rule 4 does seem to be a bad reason to remove the original post, though I think it should've been removed simply for how cringe 'cuckl...

Just jumping in to boost this message, posting your own videos is advertising your channel, probably fine if one and done, but consistently Iโ€™d consider it advertising or spamming too. Even if not own videos, just persistently posting videos is bad etiquette and I can see how thatโ€™d be construed as spamming too.

This op is cringe either way. โ€œThis moderatorโ€™s account has been compromised! No other way to explain them enforcing the instance rule 4 after consistently spamming the communities with my videos!โ€โ€ฆ Jesus christ.

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fizzle quokk.au fizzle@quokk.au
Joined: 2025-11-21
#28 · Quote Reply

Tbf Piefed also does have opinionated moderation literally hardcoded into the source code. It's pretty easy to modify since it's python and not rust, but still not great

Ok what opinionated moderation?

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Chozo fedia.io Chozo@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-03-04
#29 · Quote Reply

.ml stands for marxist-lenninist. Why are you even there?

Perhaps OP is a Marxist and/or Leninist.

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_โ€Œ_ๅใ„ใ˜ใ‚ๆˆฆ้šŠ ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
#30 · (edited) Quote Reply

I am upvoting this, simply because I find this crywolf hilarious. Iโ€™ve seen your authoritarianism dessalines.

How do tankies call this again?
Find out for fucking around too much?

How does the end of your boot taste like now?

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mrmaplebar fedia.io mrmaplebar@fedia.io
Joined: 2025-09-27
#31 · Quote Reply

Power tripping people rarely limit themselves to power trip on a single angle. And while Lemmy's open source, it's a big enough codebase for someone to add a bit of admin override that can go unnoticed for quite a while. Just remember what happened with xz.

Sure, but we allow people to power trip by giving them power in the first place. People choose to use Lemmy and participate in lemmy.ml, directly or indirectly; that gives the maintainers and admins power.

Now, I don't see eye to eye with the tankie crowd. That's fine, whatever. But I can still appreciate the creation of Lemmy as an open software project.

Ultimately FOSS gives us agency. I don't feel that the creators of Lemmy have any power over me personally. They're not very significant, but I do appreciate their project.

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rglullis communick.news rglullis@communick.news
Joined: 2023-06-09
#32 · Quote Reply

Please find a better place to air out this dirty laundry.

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Areldyb lemmy.world Areldyb@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-31
#33 · Quote Reply

This is not evidence of account compromise, whatever you may think of dessalines' moderation decisions.

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_โ€Œ_ๅใ„ใ˜ใ‚ๆˆฆ้šŠ ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
#34 · Quote Reply

Please find a better place to air out this dirty laundry.

quick praxis: where?

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rglullis communick.news rglullis@communick.news
Joined: 2023-06-09
#35 · Quote Reply

quick praxis: where?

Any community that talks about moderation issues. Preferably one that is closer to the users of lemmy.ml.

This is not the place for this. It achieves nothing and gives newcomers the impression that this type of petty drama is an integral part of the Fediverse.

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_โ€Œ_ๅใ„ใ˜ใ‚ๆˆฆ้šŠ ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
#36 · (edited) Quote Reply

Any community that talks about moderation issues. Preferably one that is closer to the users of lemmy.ml. This is not the place for this. It achieves nothing and gives newcomers the impression that this type of petty drama is an integral part of the Fediverse.

so basically what I upvoted earlier

dessalines power tripped his own software.

petty drama is an integral part of the Fediverse.

Uhhhh, are you aware how federated networks initialize?

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rglullis communick.news rglullis@communick.news
Joined: 2023-06-09
#37 · Quote Reply

so basically what I upvoted earlier dessalines power tripped his own software. petty drama is an integral part of the Fediverse. Uhhhh, are you aware how federated networks initialize?

dessalines power tripped his own software.

AFAIK, he does not have any power over the other instances and communities that are not hosted over on lemmy.ml?

Uhhhh, are you aware how federated networks initialize?

Not interested in being baited into a pointless discussion today, sorry.

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Dasus lemmy.world Dasus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-16
#38 · Quote Reply

dessalines is known for questionable moderation. Avoid the .ml communities when possible.

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_โ€Œ_ๅใ„ใ˜ใ‚ๆˆฆ้šŠ ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
#39 · Quote Reply

dessalines power tripped his own software. AFAIK, he does not have any power over the other instances and communities that are not hosted over on lemmy.ml? Uhhhh, are you aware how federated networks initialize? Not interested in being baited into a pointless discussion today, sorry.

he does not have any power

He does: it's called association by usage. Guns don't kill people, but their usage is to.
lemmy threads with other threadiverse software, but installing lemmy means supporting an authoritarian. Merchants of Death and all that.

Not interested in being baited into a pointless discussion today, sorry.

Then don't bother commenting on what little history you know๐Ÿ™ƒ

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Eldritch piefed.world Eldritch@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-07-08
#40 · Quote Reply

Ok what opinionated moderation?

There are some disabled by default, filters built into piefed. That the main Dev uses on their instance. It's not really even remotely the same thing or as controversial. But it's the closest thing piefed has and gets brought up regularly because of it.

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db0 lemmy.dbzer0.com db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-09
#41 · Quote Reply

quick praxis: where?

!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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_โ€Œ_ๅใ„ใ˜ใ‚ๆˆฆ้šŠ ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
#42 · Quote Reply

!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

โ€™rad, read below

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rglullis communick.news rglullis@communick.news
Joined: 2023-06-09
#43 · Quote Reply

he does not have any power He does: it's called association by usage. Guns don't kill people, but their usage is to. lemmy threads with other threadiverse software, but installing lemmy means supporting an authoritarian. Merchants of Death and all that. Not interested in being baited into a pointless discussion today, sorry. Then don't bother commenting on what little history you know๐Ÿ™ƒ

installing lemmy means supporting an authoritarian

Non sequitur. The software is free to use, free to redistribute and does not come with any obligation to support the ideologies of the developers. If that was the case, everyone using Linux desktops should be associated with Richard Stallman (author of the GNU project), which is on record defending Epstein by arguing that minors can consent to sexual relationships in exchange with money.

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_โ€Œ_ๅใ„ใ˜ใ‚ๆˆฆ้šŠ ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
#44 · Quote Reply

installing lemmy means supporting an authoritarian Non sequitur. The software is free to use, free to redistribute and does not come with any obligation to support the ideologies of the developers. If that was the case, everyone using Linux desktops should be associated with Richard Stallman (author of the GNU project), which is on record defending Epstein by arguing that minors can consent to ...

So, youโ€™ve never dealt with association with killers before?

everyone using Linux desktops should be associated with Richard Stallman (author of the GNU project), which is on record defending Epstein by arguing that minors can consent to sexual relationships in exchange with money.

Funny you mention this. Why did Linus Torvalds then disassociated with Vladimir Putinโ€™s genocide?

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pewgar_seemsimandroid lemmy.blahaj.zone pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-07-03
#45 · Quote Reply

these being deliberate would be less surprising than the account being compromised.

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rglullis communick.news rglullis@communick.news
Joined: 2023-06-09
#46 · (edited) Quote Reply

So, youโ€™ve never dealt with association with killers before? everyone using Linux desktops should be associated with Richard Stallman (author of the GNU project), which is on record defending Epstein by arguing that minors can consent to sexual relationships in exchange with money. Funny you mention this. Why did Linus Torvalds then disassociated with Vladimir Putinโ€™s genocide?

Why did Linus Torvalds then disassociated

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

You are failing at this most basic test of logic, this is why I don't want to get dragged down into a pointless discussion with you. Enjoy the block, and have a good rest of the weekend.

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_โ€Œ_ๅใ„ใ˜ใ‚ๆˆฆ้šŠ ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
#47 · Quote Reply

Why did Linus Torvalds then disassociated Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. You are failing at this most basic test of logic, this is why I don't want to get dragged down into a pointless discussion with you. Enjoy the block, and have a good rest of the weekend.

block the entire community then๐Ÿ™ƒ

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ZoteTheMighty lemmy.zip ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-27
#48 · Quote Reply

For every Lemmy.ml community you're subscribed to, search for a non-lemmy.ml alternative. Almost every one has an alternative now. Subscribe to the new one, unsubscribe from the old, and never look back. This kind of heavy handed and/or opinionated moderation is the status quo there.

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lambalicious lemmy.sdf.org lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-07-26
#49 · Quote Reply

It would be nice to use a decentralized Reddit like platform not coded by him, but no one else has the time, resources, ability, and/or dedication, to step up. You literally mentioned piefed in your next sentence.

Piefed is known to incorporate CCP-style shadow profile and similar measures, such as "Social Credit", so it'd be hilarious to complain about l.ml's alignment to then migrate to piefed of all places.

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lambalicious lemmy.sdf.org lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-07-26
#50 · Quote Reply

he does not have any power He does: it's called association by usage. Guns don't kill people, but their usage is to. lemmy threads with other threadiverse software, but installing lemmy means supporting an authoritarian. Merchants of Death and all that. Not interested in being baited into a pointless discussion today, sorry. Then don't bother commenting on what little history you know๐Ÿ™ƒ

, but installing lemmy means supporting an authoritarian

Have you ever transported yourself in a Ford, or derived, vehicle?

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_โ€Œ_ๅใ„ใ˜ใ‚ๆˆฆ้šŠ ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
#51 · Quote Reply

Piefed is known to incorporate CCP-style shadow profile and similar measures, such as "Social Credit", so it'd be hilarious to complain about l.ml's alignment to then migrate to piefed of all places.

no matter how many times you illusionary truth effect this, piefed users won't be getting mortgages on using antislop abuse.

Why lemmy & dessalines depend on slop is beyond the topic of this crywolf ๐Ÿงต
โ•ฎ(๏ธถโ–ฝ๏ธถ)โ•ญ

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