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IronpigsWizard
lemmy.world
IronpigsWizard@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-25 |
The Supreme Court on Friday ruled that President Donald Trump violated federal law when he unilaterally imposed sweeping tariffs across the globe, a striking loss for the White House on an issue that has been central to the president’s foreign policy and economic agenda. |
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Eldritch
piefed.world
Eldritch@piefed.worldJoined: 2025-07-08 |
Too little too late supreme court. There's no one left to enforce the decision. |
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Lemmyoutofhere
lemmy.ca
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.caJoined: 2025-03-08 |
So they are going to pay it back right?……….Right? |
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Quilotoa
lemmy.ca
Quilotoa@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-04-01 |
So they are going to pay it back right?……….Right?
The cheque is in the mail. |
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can_you_change_your_username
fedia.io
can_you_change_your_username@fedia.io Joined: 2024-09-09 |
So they are going to pay it back right?……….Right?
There are already lawsuits filed for refunds of tariff payments. Of course the money will go to the companies that made the payments. All of us who actually paid them by paying more for basically every consumer good are out of luck. |
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slevinkelevra
sh.itjust.works
slevinkelevra@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-18 |
So they are going to pay it back right?……….Right?
Yeah of course, now the big importing companies get billions of dollars... oh you meant to the consumer, tough luck. |
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supersquirrel
sopuli.xyz
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-12-09 |
There are already lawsuits filed for refunds of tariff payments. Of course the money will go to the companies that made the payments. All of us who actually paid them by paying more for basically every consumer good are out of luck.
Yeah, it is kind of like seeing you car that was stolen on the news being returned to the person who resold it from the person who stole your car. |
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Triumph
fedia.io
Triumph@fedia.io Joined: 2025-09-19 |
There are already lawsuits filed for refunds of tariff payments. Of course the money will go to the companies that made the payments. All of us who actually paid them by paying more for basically every consumer good are out of luck.
Wealth transfer from labor to the ownership class. |
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kingofras
lemmy.world
kingofras@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-13 |
Fuck off Supreme Court. I have it on good authority that The President is immune to any legal action for any presidential acts. |
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Lemmyoutofhere
lemmy.ca
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.caJoined: 2025-03-08 |
There are already lawsuits filed for refunds of tariff payments. Of course the money will go to the companies that made the payments. All of us who actually paid them by paying more for basically every consumer good are out of luck.
And people are delusional if they think these prices will go back down. |
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brucethemoose
lemmy.world
brucethemoose@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-22 |
Whoa. Well, I bet my pants that Justice Clarence Thomas is a dissenting opinion. Does it say in the article? |
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brucethemoose
lemmy.world
brucethemoose@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-22 |
Whoa. Well, I bet my pants that Justice Clarence Thomas is a dissenting opinion. Does it say in the article?
Yep. |
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Armok_the_bunny
lemmy.world
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-21 |
I mean, as much of a fucking mess this is going to cause, and as much as they should have said this a year ago, this is still very good news as far as I am concerned. Bare minimum, all the tarriffs currently in place by Trump are canceled going forward and it's going to be a while before anything analogous can be put back into place. |
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shittydwarf
sh.itjust.works
shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-05-05 |
So they are going to pay it back right?……….Right?
A trump never pays his debts |
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floofloof
lemmy.ca
floofloof@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Whoa. Well, I bet my pants that Justice Clarence Thomas is a dissenting opinion. Does it say in the article?
There's only one way to find out: ask people what's in the article.
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zikzak025
lemmy.world
zikzak025@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-24 |
Whoa. Well, I bet my pants that Justice Clarence Thomas is a dissenting opinion. Does it say in the article?
Thomas, Alito, and Kavanagh were the dissenters. |
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brucethemoose
lemmy.world
brucethemoose@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-22 |
There's only one way to find out: ask people what's in the article. Justices Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch joined with Roberts and the three liberal justices in the majority. Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Brett Kavanaugh dissented.
I just wanted to guess before I read it. |
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Weydemeyer
lemmy.ml
Weydemeyer@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-12-04 |
I mean, as much of a fucking mess this is going to cause, and as much as they should have said this a year ago, this is still very good news as far as I am concerned. Bare minimum, all the tarriffs currently in place by Trump are canceled going forward and it's going to be a while before anything analogous can be put back into place.
It’s a good thing first and foremost because tariffs have been Trump’s #1 tool to bully other nations into bending to his will. |
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northendtrooper
lemmy.ca
northendtrooper@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-24 |
Too little too late supreme court. There's no one left to enforce the decision.
This was planned. Blitzkrieg policies are working as intended. |
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Eldritch
piefed.world
Eldritch@piefed.worldJoined: 2025-07-08 |
I just wanted to guess before I read it.
Can something so certain legitimately be called a guess anymore? |
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Blueliner
lemmy.world
Blueliner@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-20 |
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venusaur
lemmy.world
venusaur@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-03-28 |
There are already lawsuits filed for refunds of tariff payments. Of course the money will go to the companies that made the payments. All of us who actually paid them by paying more for basically every consumer good are out of luck.
It’s always a win win for the wealthy |
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FlashMobOfOne
lemmy.world
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Good. I'm sick of this indirect taxation bullshit. |
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rozodru
piefed.world
rozodru@piefed.worldJoined: 2026-02-06 |
oh neat. so that means this ruling will be enforced right? ....right? of course it won't. it's another dog and pony show from the US. |
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bstix
feddit.dk
bstix@feddit.dk Joined: 2023-06-09 |
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Lol. |
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manxu
piefed.social
manxu@piefed.social Joined: 2025-02-27 |
Important to note that the ruling just says Trump exceeded his authority in setting the tariffs, not that the tariffs themselves were illegal/unconstitutional. That means that Congress can authorize Trump to continue doing this. The question is whether Mike Johnson and John Thune have the numbers to pass that law. They already both quashed efforts to curb Trump's authority before. |
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TheMadCodger
piefed.social
TheMadCodger@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-09-23 |
Can something so certain legitimately be called a guess anymore?
"Supreme Court justices should be [terrible thing, deadly, obviously bad outcome for them]"
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LifeInMultipleChoice
lemmy.dbzer0.com
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-08-12 |
Fuck off Supreme Court. I have it on good authority that The President is immune to any legal action for any presidential acts.
He's immune to punishment for them. If anyone charges a tariff to a company/person buying a foreign product that wasn't imposed by congress though, they can still be held liable. And Trump filling out pardons for everyone to ignore the supreme Court I doubt can be considered an official act, not sure what that would fall under. Government overthrow again, lol |
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bagsy
lemmy.world
bagsy@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-09-18 |
So is this an impeachable offense? Im pretty sure if i broke federal law, i would be hunted down and thrown in jail. |
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credo
lemmy.world
credo@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-22 |
There are already lawsuits filed for refunds of tariff payments. Of course the money will go to the companies that made the payments. All of us who actually paid them by paying more for basically every consumer good are out of luck.
Hah! It gets better than that. We are going to have to pay again in taxes to make up for the new shortfall. |
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orclev
lemmy.world
orclev@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
There's only one way to find out: ask people what's in the article. Justices Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch joined with Roberts and the three liberal justices in the majority. Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Brett Kavanaugh dissented.
It's always the ones you most suspect. You could probably be closely aligned with the constitution without knowing a single thing about the law by just always taking the opposite position from whatever Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh take. |
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BillyClark
piefed.social
BillyClark@piefed.social Joined: 2026-01-21 |
There's only one way to find out: ask people what's in the article. Justices Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch joined with Roberts and the three liberal justices in the majority. Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Brett Kavanaugh dissented.
I still think Barrett, a person who had almost no courtroom experience before being appointed, was a shitty appointment. But she's turned out slightly less shitty than I anticipated. |
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grue
lemmy.world
grue@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
It's always the ones you most suspect. You could probably be closely aligned with the constitution without knowing a single thing about the law by just always taking the opposite position from whatever Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh take.
I can't remember what it was about, but I think Kavanaugh was actually on the correct side of a non-unanimous ruling maybe once. Literally zero times for the other two, of course. |
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NuXCOM_90Percent
lemmy.zip
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-10-20 |
I mean, as much of a fucking mess this is going to cause, and as much as they should have said this a year ago, this is still very good news as far as I am concerned. Bare minimum, all the tarriffs currently in place by Trump are canceled going forward and it's going to be a while before anything analogous can be put back into place.
Incorrect. Only a subset of tariffs were ruled illegal. Mostly because of the method they were declared with. Others are, as of now, perfectly legal and will remain in place. And expect many of these to just be declared in a different manner to maintain them. |
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pelespirit
sh.itjust.works
pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-14 |
Okay, trump is going to be pissed about this, so why did they do it? Do they think he's going to die or are there different handlers in play here that are losing money? |
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aramis87
fedia.io
aramis87@fedia.io Joined: 2024-03-07 |
I mean, as much of a fucking mess this is going to cause, and as much as they should have said this a year ago, this is still very good news as far as I am concerned. Bare minimum, all the tarriffs currently in place by Trump are canceled going forward and it's going to be a while before anything analogous can be put back into place.
It's not all the tariffs, just the ones he justified using the 1977 Emergency Act. So of course, now he'll use another justification, and it'll take SC(R)OTUS another year to rule on those. |
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Avid Amoeba
lemmy.ca
avidamoeba@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-05 |
So are they going to pack the far-left, woke, DEI court now? |
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FaceDeer
fedia.io
FaceDeer@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-03 |
It's always the ones you most suspect. You could probably be closely aligned with the constitution without knowing a single thing about the law by just always taking the opposite position from whatever Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh take.
I must admit I've been surprised by how independent of Trump Amy Coney Barrett has wound up being. She's ruled against him a few times now. |
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anon_8675309
lemmy.world
anon_8675309@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-01 |
Okay, trump is going to be pissed about this, so why did they do it? Do they think he's going to die or are there different handlers in play here that are losing money?
They see the tide turning. And Trump will be dead by summer. Time to start positioning JD as the good guy … then they’ll start their bullshit up again… |
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pelespirit
sh.itjust.works
pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-14 |
They see the tide turning. And Trump will be dead by summer. Time to start positioning JD as the good guy … then they’ll start their bullshit up again…
I suspect you're right on the money, since their handlers are probably trump's handlers too. |
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henfredemars
infosec.pub
henfredemars@infosec.pubJoined: 2023-07-04 |
Wealth transfer from labor to the ownership class.
Sounds like the system is working as intended. |
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ExLisper
lemmy.curiana.net
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.netJoined: 2025-03-22 |
There are already lawsuits filed for refunds of tariff payments. Of course the money will go to the companies that made the payments. All of us who actually paid them by paying more for basically every consumer good are out of luck.
Companies that made the payments already sold their rights to this refunds to investment funds for cents on the dollar. Now the funds will make shitload of money. And guess who invested in all of it? Yes, people connected to Trump! https://www.wired.com/story/cantor-fitzgerald-trump-tariff-refunds/ They straight out robbed everyone. |
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zikzak025
lemmy.world
zikzak025@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-24 |
Important to note that the ruling just says Trump exceeded his authority in setting the tariffs, not that the tariffs themselves were illegal/unconstitutional. That means that Congress can authorize Trump to continue doing this. The question is whether Mike Johnson and John Thune have the numbers to pass that law. They already both quashed efforts to curb Trump's authority before.
I'm not too worried about additional tariffs passing through congress, though. That would have been the safer approach to try from the beginning if Trump's people thought they could make it work. They opted for this workaround loophole nonsense specifically to go around congress because they had already ruled out the possibility of congressional approval. I just don't think Trump could ever manage to get enough support from congress. Certainly not with how unpopular the tariffs currently are, and certainly not right before the midterms. |
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ceenote
lemmy.world
ceenote@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
I mean, as much of a fucking mess this is going to cause, and as much as they should have said this a year ago, this is still very good news as far as I am concerned. Bare minimum, all the tarriffs currently in place by Trump are canceled going forward and it's going to be a while before anything analogous can be put back into place.
If this was the fastest they could rule an executive action unconstitutional, it's proof they need to adjust the process so they can do it faster. Not that I think this Supreme Court is acting in good faith. |
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thesohoriots
lemmy.world
thesohoriots@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-21 |
"Supreme Court justices should be [terrible thing, deadly, obviously bad outcome for them]" Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas dissented.
Like, who knows, in a motor coach kissing a concrete pillar on the way back from Martha’s Vineyard when OnStar goes out during a Cloudflare outage? |
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thesohoriots
lemmy.world
thesohoriots@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-21 |
I still think Barrett, a person who had almost no courtroom experience before being appointed, was a shitty appointment. But she's turned out slightly less shitty than I anticipated.
Recusing herself that one time was a low bar to clear, but she managed to huff and puff her way over. |
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gravitas_deficiency
sh.itjust.works
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-20 |
Companies that made the payments already sold their rights to this refunds to investment funds for cents on the dollar. Now the funds will make shitload of money. And guess who invested in all of it? Yes, people connected to Trump! https://www.wired.com/story/cantor-fitzgerald-trump-tariff-refunds/ They straight out robbed everyone.
Lmfao of course they had something like this set up |
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GreenShimada
lemmy.world
GreenShimada@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-12-22 |
It's especially unsurprising that OAN (my bellwether for batshit crazy conservative stuff) aren't even reporting on this. These people live in an entirely different universe of ignorance. |
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takeda
lemmy.dbzer0.com
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Okay, trump is going to be pissed about this, so why did they do it? Do they think he's going to die or are there different handlers in play here that are losing money?
I'm wondering if contributing factor could be that he is giving himself 10 billion of taxpayer's money? He is straight stealing from us, literally to his own bank account in Qatar. He would have to ask Congress if it weren't for the tariffs. |
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takeda
lemmy.dbzer0.com
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Incorrect. Only a subset of tariffs were ruled illegal. Mostly because of the method they were declared with. Others are, as of now, perfectly legal and will remain in place. And expect many of these to just be declared in a different manner to maintain them.
Any idea which specific tariffs supposed to go away and which will stay? |
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floofloof
lemmy.ca
floofloof@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-16 |
I must admit I've been surprised by how independent of Trump Amy Coney Barrett has wound up being. She's ruled against him a few times now.
When she looks relatively sane and moderate it just demonstrates how crazy and extreme the fascists in charge are. |
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