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Codpiece
feddit.uk
Codpiece@feddit.uk Joined: 2025-06-21 |
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the_riviera_kid
lemmy.world
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-10 |
Hooray! |
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Jo Miran
lemmy.ml
JoMiran@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-29 |
What is in the new law? EDIT: I read a summary. Most things listed are fairly straightforward and already in place in the US, which brings up two questions for me.
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Ex Nummis
lemmy.world
Kyrgizion@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-02 |
I'd be careful before crying victory. This most likely means those houses will be bought by PE, not individual buyers. The end result will be higher prices still. |
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brem
lemmy.world
brem@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-06-09 |
How does a landlord quit? They own the property, don't they? I imagine they're either selling their properties to corporations or hiring someone to manage the rentals for them. |
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violetrage
lemmy.blahaj.zone
violetrage@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-09-18 |
But we can 🎶 You know we can 🎶🎶 |
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BooBees
fedinsfw.app
BooBees@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-05-26 |
What is in the new law? EDIT: I read a summary. Most things listed are fairly straightforward and already in place in the US, which brings up two questions for me. How do any of these rules make renting not economically viable? How fucking horrible was it to be a renter in the UK?
No more banging young impressionable tenants |
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LaLuzDelSol
lemmy.world
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-17 |
How does a landlord quit? They own the property, don't they? I imagine they're either selling their properties to corporations or hiring someone to manage the rentals for them.
Yeah I would imagine this would lead to slightly reduced property prices and increased rent prices as the market adjusts. |
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Th3D3k0y
lemmy.world
Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-28 |
No more banging young impressionable tenants
That's like half the movies I watch |
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Jhex
lemmy.world
Jhex@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-01-28 |
so it's working better than expected! |
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LaLuzDelSol
lemmy.world
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-17 |
Yall this doesnt mean theyre letting people live in these houses for free, it just means theyre off the rental market. Considering poorer people generally rent and richer people generally buy property, this is probably a regressive change. |
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FishFace
piefed.social
FishFace@piefed.social Joined: 2025-10-16 |
I'd be careful before crying victory. This most likely means those houses will be bought by PE, not individual buyers. The end result will be higher prices still.
Why? This will increase supply of housing available to buy and reduce the supply available to rent. So house prices will go down slightly, and rents will go up slightly. |
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FishFace
piefed.social
FishFace@piefed.social Joined: 2025-10-16 |
How does a landlord quit? They own the property, don't they? I imagine they're either selling their properties to corporations or hiring someone to manage the rentals for them.
Quitting means selling, yes. |
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Chozo
fedia.io
Chozo@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-04 |
Why? This will increase supply of housing available to buy and reduce the supply available to rent. So house prices will go down slightly, and rents will go up slightly.
Oh, so it only hurts the poorest and benefits those who can already afford to buy? How uplifting. |
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whyrat
lemmy.world
whyrat@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-05 |
I'd be careful before crying victory. This most likely means those houses will be bought by PE, not individual buyers. The end result will be higher prices still.
Why would PE buy them if not to rent & be subject to the same renter's bill of rights? Holding a vacant house isn't a good 😊 investment, they have upkeep costs, are subject to property taxes, and depreciate faster when unoccupied. |
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BooBees
fedinsfw.app
BooBees@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-05-26 |
Why? This will increase supply of housing available to buy and reduce the supply available to rent. So house prices will go down slightly, and rents will go up slightly.
Because there isn’t a free market in housing anymore, they’ve all been caught colluding to keep pricing up even when there’s a huge glut of available units/houses in an area. They have been caught using apps to do it, and when faced with threats to stop that practice were found to use traditional means to collude. The free market is a myth in 2026, stop believing in fairy tales. Ayn Rand was a charlatan and capital isn’t going to ever be allowed to work for the poors. |
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lucullus
discuss.tchncs.de
lucullus@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-07-17 |
That article has so little information, that it is effectively a big trust-me-bro. It does not mention, what the new law contains or how this is connected to the law. They tell ums some numbers without proper context explanations. So, ok, over 500 rental properties get sold off per day. What does this number actually contain. If they are not available to rent anymore, what happens with them? Sorry, this is just a low effort article telling us nothing but what this property guy whats us to think. And to the people being happy about this news: If this would really happen, then it would just mean more consolidation of the market into bigger corporations, which would make the situation even worse. I'm not against renters protections. Though celebrating less rental properties without having a significant public housing rise would not help rentners. |
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ExoticCherryPigeon
piefed.social
StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social Joined: 2026-03-08 |
Good direction but not enough, no private entity must be allowed to hoard housing. All rental properties must be under local council control to allow proper maintenance, fair pricing and finally getting rid of landlord scum |
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AllNewTypeFace
leminal.space
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.spaceJoined: 2023-08-20 |
I'd be careful before crying victory. This most likely means those houses will be bought by PE, not individual buyers. The end result will be higher prices still.
In a lot of European countries, small private landlords are relatively rare and apartments are owned and let out by corporations that own (and in many cases build) entire developments, like Deutsche Wohnung in Berlin. Given that continental Europe typically has a more stringent regulatory environment than the Anglo-American world, this does not end up with the sort of predatory monopolies one sees in the US where private equity have cornered regional markets, and the landlord companies have support desks and maintenance contractors that can be more responsive and professional than your typical small landlord. |
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FishFace
piefed.social
FishFace@piefed.social Joined: 2025-10-16 |
Because there isn’t a free market in housing anymore, they’ve all been caught colluding to keep pricing up even when there’s a huge glut of available units/houses in an area. They have been caught using apps to do it, and when faced with threats to stop that practice were found to use traditional means to collude. The free market is a myth in 2026, stop believing in fairy tales. Ayn Rand was a ...
I think you're thinking of a case in the USA that colluded on rental prices? I don't know of any evidence that there is collusion on house prices in the UK. People separately talk about investment companies buying up housing in the US as if that will have much impact on prices, but the proportion of housing under discussion is miniscule and unlikely to have any effect on prices - at least, outside of limited areas. I'm guessing at what you're referring to here so feel free to get specific. But cases in the USA are not that relevant to the UK, where the government is far more willing to enforce free market conditions than the "free market" idiotlogues in America who think that you can have a free market without regulation. |
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prole
lemmy.blahaj.zone
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-11 |
Quitting means selling, yes.
I wish quitting meant a six figure windfall in my profession.... |
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FishFace
piefed.social
FishFace@piefed.social Joined: 2025-10-16 |
Oh, so it only hurts the poorest and benefits those who can already afford to buy? How uplifting.
The Renters Rights Act overall benefits renters by making sure they can do such shocking things as keep a pet and make requests of the landlord without being evicted in revenge. This imposes a restriction on landlords, which amounts to a "cost" (in the sense of cost/benefit, not necessarily monetary) which means it was inevitable some would sell up. That part - landlords selling - does hurt the poorest, at least in the short term. However, the effect will be small in the long run: because houses for sale will increase a bit in supply, those prices will come down, enabling more people to exit the rental market. That will bring down prices at the top of the rental market, and eventually a portion of the decrease in house prices will feed through to a mitigation (not a reversal) of the increase in rents at the bottom of the rental sector as well. So a small effect to begin with (because it's not like 50% of landlords will sell up without being replaced) and mitigated because while there's no perfect exchange between the rental and owner-occupied sectors, there is some exchange. It's therefore a small price to pay for basic standards of decency for renters. The true mitigation will come from building more social and affordable housing. The government has committed to do this but has so far abjectly failed, like many governments before them. |
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| protist Member Joined: 2026-03-10 |
Why would PE buy them if not to rent & be subject to the same renter's bill of rights? Holding a vacant house isn't a good 😊 investment, they have upkeep costs, are subject to property taxes, and depreciate faster when unoccupied.
This is in many cases demonstrably false. PE is holding on to vacant properties all over the US, and sometimes don't mind holding them for years unoccupied, waiting for a redevelopment opportunity |
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surewhynotlem
lemmy.world
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
I'd be careful before crying victory. This most likely means those houses will be bought by PE, not individual buyers. The end result will be higher prices still.
How would having lower demand increase prices? |
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FishFace
piefed.social
FishFace@piefed.social Joined: 2025-10-16 |
I wish quitting meant a six figure windfall in my profession....
If you're quitting because of this, it probably means you have a buy-to-let mortgage, quite possibly on a long term/interest only. You might therefore not get that much back, and what you do get back is essentially a liquidation of your savings asset. But I guess what you're getting at seen another way is that it's nice when your savings can pay enough for you to retire. |
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Schmoo
slrpnk.net
Schmoo@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-07-04 |
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BigMacHole
thelemmy.club
BigMacHole@thelemmy.club Joined: 2026-03-16 |
Oh NO! Won't ANYONE please think of the Landlords that Take your Money and do Nothing in RETURN? |
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Codpiece
feddit.uk
Codpiece@feddit.uk Joined: 2025-06-21 |
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Why? He has nothing to do with England. |
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Schmoo
slrpnk.net
Schmoo@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-07-04 |
I'd be careful before crying victory. This most likely means those houses will be bought by PE, not individual buyers. The end result will be higher prices still.
They should be forced to give their tenants an offer to form a union and purchase the property before they're allowed to sell it to someone else. |
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tea
lemmy.today
tea@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-08-01 |
Holding a vacant house isn’t a good investment This is in many cases demonstrably false. PE is holding on to vacant properties all over the US, and sometimes don't mind holding them for years unoccupied, waiting for a redevelopment opportunity
As well as holding onto housing stock to maintain a local monopoly. It isn't as big a deal when you know any potential renter will be renting from you regardless of it is this unit or that unit. They are still forced to be your customer and you don't have to compete with lower prices from another landlord. |
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kazerniel
piefed.world
kazerniel@piefed.worldJoined: 2026-04-28 |
🎻 |
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Brave Little Hitachi Wand
feddit.uk
yakko@feddit.ukJoined: 2025-01-08 |
How would having lower demand increase prices?
Artificial scarcity got hands |
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Brave Little Hitachi Wand
feddit.uk
yakko@feddit.ukJoined: 2025-01-08 |
They've withdrawn their labour? 🫢 |
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jaybone
lemmy.zip
jaybone@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-02-08 |
Quitting means selling, yes.
Do people think the corporate landlords will be better? |
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explodicle
sh.itjust.works
explodicle@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-04-11 |
Yeah I would imagine this would lead to slightly reduced property prices and increased rent prices as the market adjusts.
They were already renting, and when someone sells that pushes the property value down. |
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explodicle
sh.itjust.works
explodicle@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-04-11 |
Yall this doesnt mean theyre letting people live in these houses for free, it just means theyre off the rental market. Considering poorer people generally rent and richer people generally buy property, this is probably a regressive change.
Tax incidence does not work that way! |
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Schmoo
slrpnk.net
Schmoo@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-07-04 |
Why? He has nothing to do with England.
Didn't pay close enough attention, commented without thinking. |
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modem_down
thebrainbin.org
modem_down@thebrainbin.orgJoined: 2026-07-23 |
How does a landlord quit? They own the property, don't they? I imagine they're either selling their properties to corporations or hiring someone to manage the rentals for them.
You overlooked the most important outcome: landlords selling property to individuals who will live there. This is a good thing because it reduces property prices, moves the market away from rentier capitalism towards people owning their own homes, and reduces economic inequality and insecurity. |
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FishFace
piefed.social
FishFace@piefed.social Joined: 2025-10-16 |
Do people think the corporate landlords will be better?
Eh? Why do you think that this will result in there being more corporate landlords? I don't think people think that is true, so I don't think they have an opinion on whether they'll be better or worse. |
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modem_down
thebrainbin.org
modem_down@thebrainbin.orgJoined: 2026-07-23 |
What is in the new law? EDIT: I read a summary. Most things listed are fairly straightforward and already in place in the US, which brings up two questions for me. How do any of these rules make renting not economically viable? How fucking horrible was it to be a renter in the UK?
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cheat700000007
lemmy.world
cheat700000007@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-14 |
You overlooked the most important outcome: landlords selling property to individuals who will live there. This is a good thing because it reduces property prices, moves the market away from rentier capitalism towards people owning their own homes, and reduces economic inequality and insecurity.
They're going to get sold to corporations who rent out even higher with no value add |
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LaLuzDelSol
lemmy.world
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-17 |
They were already renting, and when someone sells that pushes the property value down.
Right, but if landlords are exiting the market that probably means they are selling to someone who wants to live there, meaning rental properties are going off the market. Which is good for first time homebuyers but bad for renters. Either that or this is just landlords consolidating which which wont make much of a difference either way. |
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explodicle
sh.itjust.works
explodicle@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-04-11 |
Right, but if landlords are exiting the market that probably means they are selling to someone who wants to live there, meaning rental properties are going off the market. Which is good for first time homebuyers but bad for renters. Either that or this is just landlords consolidating which which wont make much of a difference either way.
When someone decides to sell a good because market conditions have changed, the price of the good goes down. Rental prices are proportional to overall housing prices. In general, more homeowners is correlated with lower rents. Renters are also removed from the market. |
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jballs
sh.itjust.works
jballs@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-13 |
Hooray!
Lol I can't believe this article frames the whole thing as if it's terrible news that the economy will never recover from. Actually, I can believe it. It's just disgusting. |
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LazyOldPervert
lemmus.org
LazyOldPervert@lemmus.org Joined: 2026-08-24 |
🎻
Violin too big |
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HerbGrower
slrpnk.net
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-07-09 |
If you're quitting because of this, it probably means you have a buy-to-let mortgage, quite possibly on a long term/interest only. You might therefore not get that much back, and what you do get back is essentially a liquidation of your savings asset. But I guess what you're getting at seen another way is that it's nice when your savings can pay enough for you to retire.
If you had a fixed interest only mortgage from several years ago that is now expiring you are also about to get fucked by the increased interest rates. Not as bad as they were a few years ago but could still be a lot worse than a decade ago. No need to feel any sympathy for them, they are still making a shitload of money for little to no actual work from the whole thing. |
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HerbGrower
slrpnk.net
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-07-09 |
Right, but if landlords are exiting the market that probably means they are selling to someone who wants to live there, meaning rental properties are going off the market. Which is good for first time homebuyers but bad for renters. Either that or this is just landlords consolidating which which wont make much of a difference either way.
The first time buyer was previously renting though, so the renter could go there. Total number of people and houses hasn't changed in this simplified example. |
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HerbGrower
slrpnk.net
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-07-09 |
What is in the new law? EDIT: I read a summary. Most things listed are fairly straightforward and already in place in the US, which brings up two questions for me. How do any of these rules make renting not economically viable? How fucking horrible was it to be a renter in the UK?
Before, landlords could evict you because they feel like it. |
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LaLuzDelSol
lemmy.world
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-17 |
When someone decides to sell a good because market conditions have changed, the price of the good goes down. Rental prices are proportional to overall housing prices. In general, more homeowners is correlated with lower rents. Renters are also removed from the market.
Yes i agree with that part
That is correlation without causation. When there isn't enough housing, rent and property prices will both be high. However, if properties get taken off the rental market and are put up for sale instead, with no changes to population or overall housing supply, that is going to drive up rental prices. There will be fewer people renting, by necessity, but the people who want or need to rent will not change by as much, creating an imbalance between supply and demand that will drive up rental prices. Not to mention another thing we haven't touched on which is why landlords are leaving in the first place. Those who remain in the now-less-profitable environment may try to raise rent to compensate. |
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LaLuzDelSol
lemmy.world
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-17 |
The first time buyer was previously renting though, so the renter could go there. Total number of people and houses hasn't changed in this simplified example.
Right but a lot of renters cannot or do not want to buy property. Thus, rental units leaving the market creates a supply demand imbalance in the rent market, driving up prices (and driving down property prices, for the inverse reason) |
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HerbGrower
slrpnk.net
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-07-09 |
Right but a lot of renters cannot or do not want to buy property. Thus, rental units leaving the market creates a supply demand imbalance in the rent market, driving up prices (and driving down property prices, for the inverse reason)
Plenty of renters do want to buy and house prices coming down would allow that for some of them. If no one buys it and the landlord wants to sell, all they can do is lower the price until someone does buy it. |
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