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DominusOfMegadeus
sh.itjust.works
Reverendender@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-07-11 |
thanks
I’m still confused? It’s not Point of View, it’s Confused Point of View? |
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BassTurd
lemmy.world
BassTurd@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
We were taught single space in the mid 90s, so that can't be too recent.
I was taught two spaces in the 90s and didn't find out it's changed until maybe a couple years ago. |
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hexagonwin
lemmy.today
hexagonwin@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-02-07 |
I’m still confused? It’s not Point of View, it’s Confused Point of View?
huh? i don't think some_kind_of_guy is saying 'POV' means "I am confused" (is that how you understood the comment above?) |
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🔍🦘🛎
lemmy.world
Zoomboingding@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
Australian English language is now largely Americanised, a process that started in the post-war era is now mostly complete. Terms such as 'gaol' have been widely replaced by 'jail'. 'Programme' is mostly replaced by 'program'. A 'car bonnet' is likely to be called a 'hood'. 'Play lunch' is mostly replaced with 'recess'. 'Pusher' is mostly called a 'pram' 'Lacker band' is now mostly just 'rubber...
Americans don't use pram though, we say stroller |
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CanadaPlus
lemmy.sdf.org
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I still feel like that one is a flavour-of-the-month adjustment - “literally” as an intensifier is already being replaced by “lowkey”, “deadass” etc..
If so, that's great. Literally was taken; sometimes you're trying to communicate something that sounds figurative, or like hyperbole, but it's not. |
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ratofkryll
sh.itjust.works
ratofkryll@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Pronouns getting weird, especially when and is added, like "for him and I" or "her and I's house". Also excetera for etcetera and mischievious for mischievous
I get irrationally angry any time I hear "I's". I can tolerate most other grammar issues, but something about that particular butchery of English drives me up the wall. |
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floquant
lemmy.dbzer0.com
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-05-31 |
The meaning is derived from the brutality of the act, not the proportion of people killed.
The "deci" prefix is just a coincidence then? |
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BarneyPiccolo
lemmy.today
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Literally and Crescendo are my vocabulary pet peeves. Both have stupidly evolved to include definitions that mean the exact opposite of their true meanings. Literally is annoying, but Crescendo is impossible. That is a specific musical term with an unalterable meaning. It means a gradual increase in volume, but it has come to mean a climax. Something will be described as "it rose to a crescendo," and that is simply wrong. Something can crescendo to a climax, but not the other way around. If you change it to mean the climax, you can't crescendo to a crescendo, s what's the word for gradually increasing the volume? Besides, it's a musical term, and musicians will define musical terms, not illiterate civilians. And if Literally can also mean "similar to," then what word can be used to literally mean Literally? |
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Cethin
lemmy.zip
Cethin@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-07-01 |
The meaning is derived from the brutality of the act, not the proportion of people killed.
You're being downvoted, but I suspect you're actually correct. A note about the act of decimation: it wasn't just killing every tenth soldier. It was that the other nine soldiers were forced to kill the tenth. It was an absolutely brutal act where soldiers were forced to kill their friends and comrades. It makes sense that saying an act is as brutal as decimation would then come to replace the word itself over time. That happens pretty frequently in language evolution. |
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Cethin
lemmy.zip
Cethin@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-07-01 |
We were always supposed to put punctuation inside quotation marks; however, now it seems to be the user's choice of inside or outside. And I have to admit that most of the time when I’m using quotes, it seems more logical to me to place the punctuation outside of them.
Yeah, I still feel like I'm supposed to, but frequently I think it makes more sense to pull it outside if it isn't part of the quote. Putting it in the quotation makes it seem like it's associated with the quotation, when it may not be. |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
We were always supposed to put punctuation inside quotation marks; however, now it seems to be the user's choice of inside or outside. And I have to admit that most of the time when I’m using quotes, it seems more logical to me to place the punctuation outside of them.
For me, i make peace with this by thinking, the rules are one way for writing dialog, and perhaps another way when needing to convey the exactness of a quote. |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
And what does it mean for those people?
"Piss over vulvas"? Not sure if that's real. |
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Cethin
lemmy.zip
Cethin@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Yeah, I remember an exchange I had, where someone asked what POV means I answered with Point of View and some spoiled Z started laughing, saying I outed myself, but as table top gamer... that was always the abbreviation we used.
I assume that kid thought it was only for porn. Ironically, they are the ones who outed themselves, though who gives a shit? Everyone watches porn. POV has meant point of view for far longer than porn has used it. I have no idea of the origins, but it's old. I remember using it in English classes to describe how stories were written, for example, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't a modern thing. |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
Literally is still understood, it just gets misused. Going in a bit of a different direction, emojis and things like /s are well understood now, which is an addition.
It's funny, quite a few misguided souls on the threadiverse seem to think that the /s is implied. On the internet, it never is. That's why we invented it. |
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Cethin
lemmy.zip
Cethin@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Australian English language is now largely Americanised, a process that started in the post-war era is now mostly complete. Terms such as 'gaol' have been widely replaced by 'jail'. 'Programme' is mostly replaced by 'program'. A 'car bonnet' is likely to be called a 'hood'. 'Play lunch' is mostly replaced with 'recess'. 'Pusher' is mostly called a 'pram' 'Lacker band' is now mostly just 'rubber...
Elden Ring is trying to bring the spelling back to "gaol." |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
I suppose the word "boomer" has changed meaning very quickly. It rarely gets used anymore to refer to actual boomers (people born just after WW2) and instead now can refer either vaguely to anyone older than 30, or anyone with an antiquated/problematic notion of social norms.
Also an electroboom fan :p |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
Autocorrect on Microsoft products turns double-space into single space by default. Gotta turn that shit of every time, it’s very frustrating.
It annoys me when people put double spaces after periods, but i guess it was necessary in the typrewiter days? Idk |
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bandwidthcrisis
lemmy.world
bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Americans don't use pram though, we say stroller
Yeah, pram is a British term. Or pushchair. |
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Cethin
lemmy.zip
Cethin@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-07-01 |
I miss double spaces after periods.
In pre-secondary education I was taught to double-space, but post I was told to single IIRC. I prefer single personally. Interestingly, typing two spaces on my phone is replaced by a period and a single space. It's like a vestigial mechanic from that practice. It's aware of the context of what a double space was used for, but it serves a totally different purpose to not have to type a period. |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
"begging the question". it's not the same as "bringing up a question", it means assuming your conclusion is true in the course of an argument
This is one of those ones that's different whether you're in British English or American English. The technical philosophical usage seems to mostly be on the British side of things. |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
Australian English language is now largely Americanised, a process that started in the post-war era is now mostly complete. Terms such as 'gaol' have been widely replaced by 'jail'. 'Programme' is mostly replaced by 'program'. A 'car bonnet' is likely to be called a 'hood'. 'Play lunch' is mostly replaced with 'recess'. 'Pusher' is mostly called a 'pram' 'Lacker band' is now mostly just 'rubber...
I'd say pram is still pretty British ("I have to push the pram-a-lot!") in the US it would be almost definitely stroller. |
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bandwidthcrisis
lemmy.world
bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
I’m still confused? It’s not Point of View, it’s Confused Point of View?
They gave that as an example. POV just seems to be used an an unnecessary prefix to stating an opinion. A bit like to "useless 'nobody:'" line before a meme caption. |
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Cethin
lemmy.zip
Cethin@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-07-01 |
From my perspective, literally being used for emphasis does not actually change its meaning, it’s simply hyperbole. If you complain that you’ve been “waiting for hours”, even though it’s been 45 minutes, that doesn’t change the meaning of “hours”, you’re just exaggerating. Hyperbole is a stylistic element; style is a completely different level of language than grammar/spelling/semantics (word m...
I agree, but there was a period in the '00s, or maybe early '10s, where the meaning was changing because you only ever saw it mean "figuratively", to the point where dictionaries included both meanings. I think it's settled back to its original meaning now though. |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
In US usage, it used to be that a situation could be "fraught with" complications, or hidden meaning, or difficulty, but it had to be "fraught with" something. These days, the British style of saying that the situation is simply "fraught" seems to be way more popular than before. Efficiency at work i guess. Maybe some cunning linguist can explain. |
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Cethin
lemmy.zip
Cethin@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-07-01 |
In reply to an earlier post
I've never heard this one. I guess I'm getting old. |
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SreudianFlip
sh.itjust.works
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-01-03 |
"Reticent" used to mean 'reluctance to speak', or, 'holding your tongue', but in the last decade I saw it being used more frequently as a straight up synonym for 'reluctance'. I wonder if people maybe think it's a more authoritative sounding word? It's not a change of convenience or cultural drift, just a sign of people reading less and subconsciously trying to hide it, I think. |
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SreudianFlip
sh.itjust.works
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-01-03 |
In reply to an earlier post
Plenty of bad grammar and speling to go around. 30 years ago fewer people with literacy problems were publicly and obsessively defacing literary norms. |
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SreudianFlip
sh.itjust.works
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-01-03 |
The "deci" prefix is just a coincidence then?
More like a vague gesture, which, in idiom chock-full of metonymy, is legitimate. |
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KnightOfOldEmpire
lemmy.ml
KnightOfOldEmpire@lemmy.mlJoined: 2021-12-18 |
I assume that kid thought it was only for porn. Ironically, they are the ones who outed themselves, though who gives a shit? Everyone watches porn. POV has meant point of view for far longer than porn has used it. I have no idea of the origins, but it's old. I remember using it in English classes to describe how stories were written, for example, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't a modern thing.
Correct, correct. I don't really have good memories of that place due to some other reasons. |
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SreudianFlip
sh.itjust.works
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-01-03 |
In reply to an earlier post
Print publishing has 500 years of convention built on trial and error. As a person who learned to type on a typewriter, and then became a typesetter and publisher, and now does a lot of editing, double spaces are only of use in a monospace type face where there is no kerning possible. Otherwise, type with variable spaces between the letters plus variable letter sizes is physically harder to read when there are extra gaps between the sentences, despite the way you were trained (by boomers, probably) to type. |
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SreudianFlip
sh.itjust.works
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-01-03 |
I was taught two spaces in the 90s and didn't find out it's changed until maybe a couple years ago.
It hasn't changed, you were just taught an overly specific application and not taught that it was such. |
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SreudianFlip
sh.itjust.works
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-01-03 |
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Don't do that unless it's a monotype font, please. Sincerely, typesetters everywhere. |
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CrocodilloBombardino
piefed.social
the_abecedarian@piefed.social Joined: 2025-04-07 |
I've never heard this one. I guess I'm getting old.
said often in an office context, not a youth thing in my experience |
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some_kind_of_guy
lemmy.world
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-07-14 |
In reply to an earlier post
Just demonstrating an incorrect use of POV 😅 |
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Klear
piefed.world
Klear@piefed.world Joined: 2026-05-14 |
You're being downvoted, but I suspect you're actually correct. A note about the act of decimation: it wasn't just killing every tenth soldier. It was that the other nine soldiers were forced to kill the tenth. It was an absolutely brutal act where soldiers were forced to kill their friends and comrades. It makes sense that saying an act is as brutal as decimation would then come to replace the ...
People really love to feel smug about others using words "wrong" for some reason. Let them. I don't care. |
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corsicanguppy
lemmy.ca
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
In reply to an earlier post
We can still pronounce it correctly (with an O like 'pronounce' or 'proclaim') so there's that |
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corsicanguppy
lemmy.ca
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I get irrationally angry any time I hear "I's". I can tolerate most other grammar issues, but something about that particular butchery of English drives me up the wall.
It's just indolence. It's like people who put an S on the end of 'e-mail' to pluralize it. |
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AnarchistArtificer
lemmy.world
AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
In reply to an earlier post
The OED actually includes the definition of literally as being what used to be the opposite of its definition nowadays, so I think that it does count as an auto-antonym (a word that means both itself, and the opposite of itself) |
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likebudda
reddthat.com
likebudda@reddthat.com Joined: 2026-08-20 |
Apple put the nail in the coffin for adverbs when "Think different" let illiterates think they were speaking correctly. |
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wieson
feddit.org
wieson@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-06-24 |
I was one of the first years to have the new spelling rules. It used to be, that "dass" could also be spelt "daß", but the rules for "ss" and "ß" were made clearer and more concise. They also changed the way words could be split at the end of a line. If there was a double consonant in-between the syllables that were to split, the first syllable would take both consonants but now they are split evenly. |
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MrPnut
lemmy.world
MrPnut@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-28 |
I get irrationally angry any time I hear "I's". I can tolerate most other grammar issues, but something about that particular butchery of English drives me up the wall.
Would you rather prefer i’s or mine’s? |
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MrPnut
lemmy.world
MrPnut@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-28 |
The one that bothers me most (heard a lot in the software dev world) is when people say process-eez instead of processes, even if it is technically a word now, like ain’t |
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Sharkticon
lemmy.zip
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-12-21 |
In reply to an earlier post
I don't understand the pusher/pram one at all. |
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Jose A Lerma
lemmy.world
JoseALerma@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-02 |
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tomenzgg
midwest.social
tomenzgg@midwest.socialJoined: 2025-01-19 |
Apple put the nail in the coffin for adverbs when "Think different" let illiterates think they were speaking correctly.
*speaking correct .I'm so sorry; I couldn't help myself |
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tomenzgg
midwest.social
tomenzgg@midwest.socialJoined: 2025-01-19 |
'Programme' is mostly replaced by 'program'. We can still pronounce it correctly (with an O like 'pronounce' or 'proclaim') so there's that
Far as I've ever seen, that's how everyone pronounces it. |
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tomenzgg
midwest.social
tomenzgg@midwest.socialJoined: 2025-01-19 |
For me, i make peace with this by thinking, the rules are one way for writing dialog, and perhaps another way when needing to convey the exactness of a quote.
YES! That's basically my same reasoning. |
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Jentu
lemmy.ml
Jentu@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-10-27 |
Literally and Crescendo are my vocabulary pet peeves. Both have stupidly evolved to include definitions that mean the exact opposite of their true meanings. Literally is annoying, but Crescendo is impossible. That is a specific musical term with an unalterable meaning. It means a gradual increase in volume, but it has come to mean a climax. Something will be described as "it rose to a crescendo...
That's it, I'm going to start using "It rose to a fortissississimo"! And don't get me started on how the Pianoforte is just called the piano now, leaving out half of its loudness range smh. |
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southsamurai (he/him/pronoun agnostic)
sh.itjust.works
southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-19 |
Ain't ain't a word. It is now. |
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southsamurai (he/him/pronoun agnostic)
sh.itjust.works
southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-19 |
In reply to an earlier post
Yes, but we got the good aussie slang! Like, "no worries". Fucking love it. |
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