Help us out: what do you think “First World,” “Second World,” and “Third World” actually mean? The terms referred to cold war political alignment: the U.S.-led bloc, the Soviet-led bloc, and countries aligned with neither. It was not a tidy ranking from rich and civilized to poor and backward.

Yes those were the original definitions but colloquial usage has shifted from the original meaning. Although these days the preferred terminology is developed/developing/under developed.

This article is a bit tough to understand. What is the expected logic of such practices? I know its a horrific phenomenon all-around, but what was even the initial idea of how this could possibly be a net good for any entity involved?

The "net good" here is that it's torture for us. It's good sport for those in power in prison. There's also the fact that those in power can earn a little side hustle from relatively zero risk: you don't need to smuggle anything into the prison to sell, you just sell one prisoner to the next. That is the society we live in.

Things are pretty fucked up right now for us literally everywhere. We're fucking dying here. Educate yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-coding
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_the_United_States#V-coding

For you it's mindless scrolling. For us it's daily life. Help us.

To quote Mama Ru, “Reading is, what?”

Every conservative you have ever met supports this. Every single one.

Your replies are so on point I'm saving this comment thread. This also really opened my eyes to the narrow mindedness of others. Sometimes broader historical knowledge is necessary to understand present day conditions.

I'm convinced they put something in the water and/or air and/or food to make some of us greedy self centered seething pieces of shit. Unfortunately those are the people in power.

well i'm glad. i do my best to maintain an empathetic approach while also speaking the truth into the world my government wants to kill. this thread has been more mentally taxing than i would have preferred, but i keep reminding myself that it still connected with at least a few people even if all the comments are saying i'm in denial about that very same government's core nature and trying to deflect blame from it.

i would say there's something to be said for the broad impacts idustrialized food has on the gut biome, and the gut biome's influence on persona. that's more of a critique of capitalistic tendancies though than a direct endorsement of any hypothesis that some central cabal intentionally poisons us.

that said, if you told me nestle, nabisco, monsanto, and unilever do intentionally poison us to keep us fighting and themselves on top, i'd endorse that notion, too, and have put at least some thought into the possibility

then let's abolish

under developed is only preferred in academic circles, particularly economics. most other places refer to such places as "over-exploited"

The proper answer is that, Reading is Fundamental.

^ This is what anti-intellectualism sounds like.

I've never known anyone on meth to write such a thoughtful analysis of the United States' European settler-colonial origins.

It's not so much nonsense as it is uncomfortable truth. It's very, very uncomfortable. But it is also true. None of us alive today chose to benefit from the things our ancestors did, the systems they built, the territories and resources they claimed, the wars they won, the people they killed. But we did benefit from them, we still do, and we are responsible for understanding and acknowledging that. It does not really have to be a big deal, but the longer and harder we refuse to genuinely accept that, the bigger a deal it becomes.

It's not "white guilt" to understand that exactly the same things you worked hard for are also things other, much poorer people are also working just as hard for, and quite possibly much harder, while objectively accomplishing much less because of exactly that history. It also hurts to admit that some of that racist colonial history isn't actually history, because it actually isn't totally gone yet. Nobody's saying we have to instantly paint the entire globe with fairness. It's no person's sole responsibility, but it is a shared responsibility that we need to be making an honest effort towards, and we should be held responsible if we ignore, minimize and deny those things.

There's a lot of different directions I could go in defense and support of these principles, but I don't think it would lead to productive discussion and I think it would be better for people to simply dismiss me as a naive, idealistic bleeding-heart liberal who can't possibly grasp reality. But whether you agree with it being achievable or not, I think we should agree that whenever it is possible to move the needle at all, we should try at least to some degree. The first steps of any sort of improvements towards equality require acknowledging the premise in the first place. We have to understand the problem, that equality does not yet exist because genuine harm was done in the past and those consequences have continued to the present, not because some people and groups of people are inherently lazy or stupid or bad. A lot of people are very, very resistant to even admitting that, because they're afraid that it will make them liable, that it will cost them something. And ironically, by denying it, I think it actually should cost them something. Only the truth shall set us free.

Jesus America is a third world country backwards shithole filled with evil fucktards.

FTFY

Rape is practically universal in US prisons. The problem is vastly underreported, we'll never know the true extent of it. It's not just inmates (of all kinds), the guards revel in it.

... and we have more prisoners than any other country, there are millions of inmates.

Of course, we could make the guards wear cameras with every room being monitored, but I guess why bother? We're not going to charge them anyway.

We let McConnell pack the courts with fascists for decades, now the chickens come home to roost.

We've always chosen violence. For centuries.

First world is not a state of a country, it's a label the US and Europe created after WWII for themselves.

sodomy in US prisons is a JOKE to Americans.

ever hear one of them say: 'dont drop the soap' like its something to laugh about?

I hope to see educating then.

So make a change

We're not blaming Europeans, we're acknowledging that we are Europeans and that our current society and culture are rooted in European settler-colonialism. As a white man born in America I can trace my roots directly back to Europe, and our culture and political system reflect those roots. If that makes you uncomfortable then perhaps you should do some self-reflection.

I appreciate the poetic word choice even if yucandu doesn't lol.

i'm not who chose it. it's a very popular word to describe the bloody and violent concentration of authority that abolitionists resist

that’s revisionist as fuck

east India company anyone?

what about the literal Aztec empire and human slave sacrifice

we just tend to be temporally biased

You either gotta use an app/front-end with filters, or accept having your mind expanded, be it for good or ill (or both, since one can lead to the other).

I prefer the second option 99/100, but I do have an app that's heavily filtered for when I just can't bear the ugliness of the world for a few hours.

Or "2/3rds world" (as in the majority of countries neither aligned with Soviet Communism nor US Capitalism and therefore not as exploited or industrialized/polluting)

I mean it in the colloquial sense based on how well taken care of the people are. No I am not writing a dissertation. This is a discussion on a message board where people may use hyperbole to make their opinion clear

I agree with you and you are correct but this is linguistic prescriptivism, which is one of the things the what is a woman crowd cling to

but the other people using third wold country to mean allows sex abuse makes my skin crawl

Examine your preconceived ideas, before they examine you

Farmers do this shit with cattle and horses, wow, gross. So cool how already normalised it was before 2016, great /s

But have you tried blaming Europe?

They take aggressive men and let them vent some steam off by raping a woman. This reduces their aggression towards other inmates and makes them more controllable.

Since trans women are basically treated there as subhumans, no one cares of them in this equation.

Propagated as a scare tactic to keep men subservient to law enforcement

No, they aren't and that is the sad thing. They could be a great country. They choose this instead.

All your brainpower occupied with breathing?

FUCK. THE. USA!

Highway of Tears is one thing... But there are also years of starlight tours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlight_tours

Do you really think people on the fediverse are unfamiliar with the word coagulation?

practice was officially ended in 2018, but the most recent death that matches this motus operendi was in 2021 in case anyone thinks this is some forgotten thing we're relitigating

And they think it’s part of it. They assume everyone who goes to prison deserves everything they get.

The cruelty is the point.

Our entire culture is one of raping. We rape the land, our neighboring countries, the oceans, the financial system, and each other in every way conceivable.

I did not mean third world to mean that, but rather in the colloquial sense of how much a country takes care of its people.

Understood that so many on this platform strictly care about historical definitions and prescriptive language policing though

Been to jail. Dropping soap is a real thing when theres also dudes who will try to get new people locked in their personal cell during shift change for an hour.

What in the world are you blathering about?

Neither have had for-profit prisons with systematised sexual torture, but even if they did I'd lean into the recency bias and ask: if they could move past it, why did the US double down when faced with better alternatives?

Go to imgur, 9gag, krazframe, 4chan, memify, etc

Lemmy is like reddit- an unhealthy mix of trolls and legit discussions