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Canadian/German sci-fi: All of the above.

Australians did the Seppo Nuclear Apocalypse first.

That was the whole premise behind MadMax 2.

That last one might not be sci-fi for long

Isn't most American SciFi the direct counterpart to British SciFi?

Space army fights bad aliens. Space radioactive now, but bad aliens dead 👍 Space Captain hero.

Also, my friend needs some examples of French SciFi.

LEXX - The Beginning + Brunnen G Fight Song looks very interesting, but not much plot. There's another video, a review of the show with heavy spoilering, quick FFWD recommended, which then praises its complexity and creativity, comparing it to Terry Gilliam amongst others... that's enough for me, I'm in.

I need to watch more French Sci-Fi

Mmm, yearning robots in space... 🫠

The French sci-fi one is literally Moebius comics

British Sci-fi: Threads

I didn't know Wall-E was Japanese... well, his parts could be made in Japan.

Domo arigato, Mr Roboto?

British sci-fi is more likely one of these:

• Dysfunctional but mysterious magical traveler and his witless sidekicks stumble through space and time having campy adventures.
• Dysfunctional band of renegades rush through space having campy adventures fighting a heartless evil empire with witty retorts.
• Dysfunctional group of misfits stumble through space skewering each other with witty retorts and having campy adventures while trying to find their way home.

There's definitely a pattern there.

swedish sci-fi for some reason: 200-page rhyming epics exploring the human need for self-expression even in the face of certain doom or et but in the woods. there is no in-between.

My friend literally doesn't know what that is.

Judge Dredd, Threads, Lifeforce(Kind of) certainly supports the UK sci fi Idea.
French scifi is a little more like EVERYONE ,good and Bad is turned on at all times.
American sci fi is spot in,i can't think of any counter evidence.

As someone who reads scifi like a chain smoker in a tobacco warehouse, this reads as somewhat antiquated. Niven and Heinlein and such back in the day, definitely in the American camp on how they wrote women and relationships, not seeing much of that lately though. Heavy lean on military scifi instead. Most of it narrated by RC Bray.

Silo series was American. Though that felt like the smart man’s Fallout as a writing prompt. Chuck Wendig, American. Maybe we all just have apocalypse on the brain the last decade.

Not sure the space romance thing is limited to one country’s culture. God save us all from young adult fiction of any kind, because this is the main plot.

The real issue in scifi rn is the multiverse popping up like the vampire trend back in the Sookie Stackhouse days. Every other description of newly “printed” scifi I’ve read in my book searches this year: multiverse. Is everyone just out of ideas?

I liked it better when it felt like the scifi market was trying to find the next expanse.

There's actually a lot of decent sci Fi with Canadian creators / writers / cast / filming location

The main rule is that it will be set anywhere but Canada

Aniara is amazing! Like really, it might not be quite a typical sci-fi story but it is really good. Also so confusing, Harry Martinsson makes up soo many words.

Absolutely worth reading!

Also, it does not rhyme. He uses a verity different meter throughout the book, few of which rhyme. A lot is free verse. Also the first 29 songs were apparently written under trance. It is truly a very, very strange book.

For a hint at what it's like, I'd like to quote the second song (so no spoilers here, this is the beginning of the book)

Goldonder Aniara shuts, the siren gives the wail for field-egression by the known routine
and then the gyrospinner sets in towing
the goldonder upward to the zenith light, where
magnetrinos blocking field-intensity
soon signal level-zero and field-release occurs.
[...]

Read the rest of the masterpiece at the internet archives!

I didn't know about Arne goes to space but now I desperately want to see it... That trailer is just wonderfully goofy

Nah, the American one is really just Strangers In A Strange Rant on Radical Polyamorous Misogynistic Libertarianism.

Does your friend somehow not know that searching is a thing?

literally?

EVERYONE ,good and Bad is turned on at all times

So what you're saying is that French sci-fi is the most realistic of all fiction? 🤔

Fifth Element

Space.

Tim Curry as Poet Man. Fun show.

And the American version was The Day After (1983)

Entirely different movies with the same premise. The Day After messed me up as a kid. But Threads haunts me as an adult.

I'm fairly sure that's half referring to Fantastic Planet, but might also Gandahar. Both rated PG for copious unfun, more like decorative boobs.

British sci-fi is more like:

"Oh freddled gruntbuggly,Thy micturations are to me as plurdled gabbleblotchits"

Edit: the down votes are disturbing. Do people hate HHGTG or do they not know it? Both are horrible options.

all three of that is just Doctor Who,

don't forget that Black Mirror started british

Here you go: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4827558

Total shit. I'm posting this so you realize you actually don't need to watch more French Sci-Fi.

Watch some Spanish Sci-Fi like this, this, this, this or even this instead.

Polish Sci-Fi: two guys wake up from hibernation in a world where men went extinct and have to convince all the women that world with them was actually not that bad and old order should be restored.

Yes, yes, we’ve all seen the Stargate shows and films

I think the second one is Blake's 7.

Barbarella. It’s an incredibly weird movie with Brigitte Bardot Jane Fonda as the bombshell. Pretty sure the provided definition of french sci-fi is based on this movie.

Edit: misremembered the actress

Third is Red Dwarf

i'll bet both of ya that Doctor Who has at least 3 episodes that fit each of those exact descriptions

There's also When the Wind Blows, if you want to be depressed but also want an absolute banger of a soundtrack.

Well France did "Le Voyage Dans la Lune" in1892 (the first ever SF movie) and more recently "Fifth Element" and "Mars Express".

Russian sci-fi: every single person in the future is white.

Yes, Mars Express was actually really good but it's as oversexed as most of French cinema (except for comedies which consist mostly of shouting).

Tbf, that's pretty close to how most of Russia already is.

To be equally fair, though, that's probably mostly because it's a very racist country with an ethnonationalist government.

Heavy Metal,fifth element even Alien 4 spring to mind.

Actually, 70% of citizens identify as ethnic Russians: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Russia

In US 60% of people identify as white.

There's big population of Tatars, Chechens and bunch of other Asian ethnic groups. No idea how are they represented in Russian cinema though.

Ukrainian sci-fi killer robots kill russians... oh wait... that's not sci-fi. Since when we're living in Second Variety?

identify doesn't mean all of them are white. Lots of kalmyks, buryats and yakuts identify themselves as russians. it's been an umbrella identity for quite a while.

and the credits roll over a still frame of an toddler's penis. that movie was messed up.

just read some Metal Hurlant and Pilote - it is way wilder than the movies.

Um, hate to remind you but Fifth Element came out 29 years ago. Fucking Valerian adaptation is almost 10 years old already.

more like thirty three. you underestimate the variety of 3, 4, 5 Doctors