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moldy_rice
piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comJoined: 2026-08-07 |
I only heard about it when she put out a full nudity and penetration reinacment video. The reactions to that were certainly interesting.
Link? Edit: found it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceci_N'est_Pas_Un_Viol And here's the original work from way back machine https://web.archive.org/web/20150611064710/http://www.cecinestpasunviol.com/ Update: the text has ample trigger warnings, but I'll add that (while I think it's bold and well done), it's very hard to watch and may give you nightmares |
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moldy_rice
piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comJoined: 2026-08-07 |
It wasn't the mattress that she was raped on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight) It was the same model, though.
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moldy_rice
piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comJoined: 2026-08-07 |
In case you're looking for more like this
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight) |
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moldy_rice
piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comJoined: 2026-08-07 |
Wow, TIL about this asshole NGO that defends rapists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Families_Advocating_for_Campus_Equality |
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ayyy
sh.itjust.works
ayyy@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-06-20 |
God, the internet was fucking horrible when this happened. I remember constant comments about how she was lying for attention or just regretted it. Pre-MeToo era was a hellhole.
I think a lot of people just don’t have any experience with the criminal justice system and assume that if there was no conviction he must be innocent. |
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Fuckfuckmyfuckingass
lemmy.world
Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-07 |
Yeah, now the majority of rape jokes are made by bots instead of humans. Garbage in, garbage out
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. |
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Aatube
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-18 |
Probably should have picked two philosophers who didn't have significant portions of their works dedicated to defending slavery and the literal Greek patriarchy.
he was clearly picked due to the idea of the philosopher king (in Plato's famously undemocratic Kaliopolis, which is a lot like the caste system) |
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Aatube
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-18 |
So, not sure how a handshake could have been possible.
one can have two hands at once |
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Tollana1234567
lemmy.today
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-04 |
she would have grounds to sue the school? |
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Photonic
lemmy.world
Photonic@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-12 |
In January 2015, New York's U.S. senator Kirsten Gillibrand invited Sulkowicz to attend the 2015 State of the Union Address.[5] Families Advocating for Campus Equality said the invitation was "undeserved and violates the principles of confidentiality and gender equality of Title IX", Wow, TIL about this asshole NGO that defends rapists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Families_Advocating_for_Campu...
Well after reading the wiki, I wouldn’t call it that:
I think due process is one of the fundamental principles of our society, be for it murder, rape or petty theft. |
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| protist Member Joined: 2026-03-10 |
Yeah where I am in the US, we literally elected a rapist as president. The misogyny hasn't really shifted much from my perspective after Me Too. Like....there's more lip service paid to it, but like with the Cornell situation, there's still no real consequences for most rapists and younger generations are demonstrably more misogynistic. I get where you're coming from and you're probably right t...
I just really have to disagree here. Growing up in the 90s, blatant misogyny was utterly pervasive throughout our culture. Now raising a son, sometimes 90s (or earlier) media comes on and the sexist tropes make me cringe. While the internet has enabled a loud subgroup of misogynists to organize, the culture among young people in the real world that I observe daily is waaay more accepting and progressive than the predominant culture 30 years ago. |
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droans
lemmy.world
droans@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-21 |
Well after reading the wiki, I wouldn’t call it that: Specifically, FACE objects to many schools' Title IX proceedings that deny students basic procedures traditionally provided to those defending themselves against allegations of wrongdoing, such as: not being informed of the specific accusations, denied access to the complaint, witness statements, and evidence, and not being permitted to cont...
They are given due process, including access to lawyers, evidence, and witnesses. They're even allowed to take the case to court. All public universities are required to offer full due process when expelling students. Private universities are not required to do so because they're not run by the government. |
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Texas_Hangover
lemmy.radio
Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio Joined: 2024-11-09 |
You're a trash person who doesn't know what he's talking about, and even if you were right, you'd still be a garbage heap for thinking "but it wasn't about race" or "but their children wouldn't always be slaves as well, unless of course they fell into debt while their slave parents died in the mines" is a defense. Just straight up LMAO at them not defending Greek patriarchy btw. Shit, you ignor...
Homie's off his meds again lmao. |
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Photonic
lemmy.world
Photonic@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-12 |
They are given due process, including access to lawyers, evidence, and witnesses. They're even allowed to take the case to court. All public universities are required to offer full due process when expelling students. Private universities are not required to do so because they're not run by the government.
That’s in contradiction to what the Wikipedia page shows.
So many of them do not. Why does not being run by the government exempt schools from applying basic human rights? |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
younger generations are demonstrably more misogynistic. I just really have to disagree here. Growing up in the 90s, blatant misogyny was utterly pervasive throughout our culture. Now raising a son, sometimes 90s (or earlier) media comes on and the sexist tropes make me cringe. While the internet has enabled a loud subgroup of misogynists to organize, the culture among young people in the real w...
I’ll pull some studies in a minute here, but when I say demonstrably, I mean it. There’s a reason that Gen Z helped elect Trump.
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maturelemontree
lemmy.zip
maturelemontree@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-02-11 |
You triggered them, sure. You're gonna address the point they made though? How they had chattel slaves AND the alternative ancient slave systems you defended are literally worse?
No, they were right and I was wrong. Socrates and Plato had ideas different that typical Greek life, but they were still far from ideal by today's standards. It is something that I had to do more research on and I'm grateful for that. That guy is a real fuck though, and can eat a whole cactus. |
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Randelung
lemmy.world
Randelung@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-18 |
In January 2015, New York's U.S. senator Kirsten Gillibrand invited Sulkowicz to attend the 2015 State of the Union Address.[5] Families Advocating for Campus Equality said the invitation was "undeserved and violates the principles of confidentiality and gender equality of Title IX", Wow, TIL about this asshole NGO that defends rapists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Families_Advocating_for_Campu...
"Families Advocating" oh yeah, definitely a racist/sexist/bigoted organization. They're not all named like this, but those that are, are very likely very shitty. |
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FrostyTheDoo
lemmy.world
FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-15 |
So, not sure how a handshake could have been possible.
Someone that cared about the issue would have made an effort to figure something out. Then again someone who cared about the issue would do more to remove rapists from the campus they are in charge of. |
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cantstopthesignal
sh.itjust.works
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-28 |
Well after reading the wiki, I wouldn’t call it that: Specifically, FACE objects to many schools' Title IX proceedings that deny students basic procedures traditionally provided to those defending themselves against allegations of wrongdoing, such as: not being informed of the specific accusations, denied access to the complaint, witness statements, and evidence, and not being permitted to cont...
Due process protects you from the government. You don't get due process when you get kicked out of a private business or university for misbehaving. They can kick you out for no reason at all. |
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6_electrons
piefed.social
6_electrons@piefed.social Joined: 2026-08-20 Banned |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
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Art is so much more than purely entertainment and it's insulting that you even typed these words out to question a rape victim.
Yeah, this is totally about being entertainment /s |
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LilB0kChoy
reddthat.com
LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com Joined: 2026-07-28 |
They are given due process That’s in contradiction to what the Wikipedia page shows. Private universities are not required to do so So many of them do not. Why does not being run by the government exempt schools from applying basic human rights?
Your question is a little hyperbolic since what your talking about is title IX specifically, not “human rights” in general. You can read about title IX exemptions here. |
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Hacksaw
lemmy.ca
Hacksaw@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-27 |
This post was probably in response to the recent Cornell 7 situation. A former Cornell student was drugged and gang-raped in a frat house for 7 hours in 2024. When she reported it, two of the rapists were expelled, and five more had to write an essay about why rape is bad. No criminal charges were brought against any of them, even the two who were expelled. Zero arrests. The entire frat house k...
You can read the DA statement and her testimony here. It has a full story of what happened from her pov, including the guys who showed up after the group text went out. Update: apparently the DA is a lying POS: |
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Photonic
lemmy.world
Photonic@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-12 |
Due process protects you from the government. You don't get due process when you get kicked out of a private business or university for misbehaving. They can kick you out for no reason at all.
If you misbehave, sure, but this is not misbehaving. This is a crime. One that hasn’t been proven to have happened at all.
That is a major issue. Kicking someone out of university is a life-changing punishment, and should not be taken so lightly when someone may be innocent. There should be rules about that and I don’t think this should be normalized. |
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Vrag
lemmy.world
Vrag@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-16 |
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You are right about the part that you don't understand art... it's absolutely about more than just entertainment. |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
You can read the DA statement and her testimony here. It has a full story of what happened from her pov, including the guys who showed up after the group text went out. https://web.archive.org/web/20260929085033/https://www.tompkinscountyny.gov/News-articles/District-Attorney-statement-regarding-Jane-Doe-v.-Cornell-University-et-al Update: apparently the DA is a lying POS: https://www.cbsnews.c...
This is not her testimony, this is the DA recounting her testimony. It is decidedly not the whole story as evidenced by the group chat that the DA never saw and that she’s suing Cornell accusing them of holding back evidence. |
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Photonic
lemmy.world
Photonic@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-12 |
So many of them do not. Why does not being run by the government exempt schools from applying basic human rights? Your question is a little hyperbolic since what your talking about is title IX specifically, not “human rights” in general. You can read about title IX exemptions here.
I’m not talking about human rights in general, I’m talking about those specific basic human rights. |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
If you misbehave, sure, but this is not misbehaving. This is a crime. One that hasn’t been proven to have happened at all. They can kick you out for no reason at all. That is a major issue. Kicking someone out of university is a life-changing punishment, and should not be taken so lightly when someone may be innocent. There should be rules about that and I don’t think this should be normalized.
Then maybe Cornell shouldn’t have impeded a real investigation here. |
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LilB0kChoy
reddthat.com
LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com Joined: 2026-07-28 |
I’m not talking about human rights in general, I’m talking about those specific basic human rights.
How are they being denied basic human rights? Title IX is very specific and the organization you refer to, FACE, specifically states their goal in relation to title IX. I can’t tell if your arguing in bad faith or you don’t understand title IX compared to other laws that would apply. |
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forkDestroyer
infosec.pub
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub Joined: 2025-01-25 |
she would have grounds to sue the school?
If she can prove the school violated the law or broke their own internal policy in handling this case, she may have grounds. If they followed their own internal procedure properly and didn't violate the law, it would be harder to win a suit. |
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James R Kirk
startrek.website
Kirk@startrek.websiteJoined: 2025-03-01 |
You are right about the part that you don't understand art... it's absolutely about more than just entertainment.
Oof yeah I always feel bad for the folks that see the crazy freestyle runway shows and think they're being clever by recognizing how impractical the costumes are. |
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captainlezbian
lemmy.world
captainlezbian@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
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Art is often about expression. Yes it can be about entertainment, but to describe something like Strange Fruit as entertainment feels wrong, it's beautiful and haunting, but it's a song that cries out for justice against the suffering that inspired its creation. This performance art piece is also a demand for justice. |
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CptOblivius
lemmy.world
CptOblivius@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
What an absolute shit university Columbia has become. |
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blartcap_
lemmy.dbzer0.com
blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-07-03 |
So, not sure how a handshake could have been possible.
Carrying it around everywhere doesn't mean she didn't regularly put it down to do other things. |
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captainlezbian
lemmy.world
captainlezbian@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
I'm in the US and we have such long backlogs of rape kits that are never even tested: In 2022, at least 25,000 untested rape kits sat in law enforcement agencies and crime labs across the country. This figure only accounts for data reported by 30 states and Washington, DC; the total backlog number is unknown. So when you say that the reason it's difficult to solve rape cases is because there is...
Yepppp, cops don't investigate such things for shit and I just can't believe they care after being part of the victim end of such an investigation |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
Yepppp, cops don't investigate such things for shit and I just can't believe they care after being part of the victim end of such an investigation
I'm so sorry your wife had to experience not only the original crime, but then the added victim blaming from the very people that are supposed to help her. It's sadly way too common here. |
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YappyMonotheist
lemmy.world
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-04-26 |
That era was the beginning of my disillusionment with the internet. It's like every guy was angry for the rapist. Are they afraid for themselves... What are they hiding?
The internet was not to blame, though, it's just a reflection of your society... |
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Hacksaw
lemmy.ca
Hacksaw@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-27 |
This is not her testimony, this is the DA recounting her testimony. It is decidedly not the whole story as evidenced by the group chat that the DA never saw and that she’s suing Cornell accusing them of holding back evidence.
That's true. It's the DA paraphrase of her testimony. Her testimony will likely not become public prior to the trial. I never said it's the full picture either, it clearly doesn't include the group chats that happened on the other side of the door. It just shows what she says (or the DAs summary of it at least) happened on her side of the door. I also don't agree with the DA. That story has enough evidence of people pressuring her into doing more drugs and drinking more to get her into a more compromised state. That alone should have been enough for charges. You can't just have someone say "stop" and respond with "do you want more drugs?". |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
That's true. It's the DA paraphrase of her testimony. Her testimony will likely not become public prior to the trial. I never said it's the full picture either, it clearly doesn't include the group chats that happened on the other side of the door. It just shows what she says (or the DAs summary of it at least) happened on her side of the door. I also don't agree with the DA. That story has eno...
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partofthevoice
lemmy.zip
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-10-26 |
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Art is touted as one of the only things capable of making a bullheaded society see reality differently. You think such a key piece of experience would be confined to entertainment? |
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boonhet
lemmy.zip
boonhet@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-08-12 Banned |
The details of the settlement are sealed and it doesn't prove that the rape didn't happen, only that charges were never pressed against him for rape. Considering the lengths that these Universities routinely go through to bury these stories, hide evidence, and not give evidence over to the DA and police departments, I have significant doubts that Columbia did the right thing here.
It is also impossible to prove rape didn't happen. There's no way you could conclusively prove right now that you haven't raped me. Which is why we have this whole innocent until proven guilty thing, which absolutely sucks if you're a victim, but guilty until proven innocent is an even worse system. Until either conclusive proof about the rape is presented or she admits to lying, as far as I'm concerned, he didn't rape her and she isn't lying about it. I'm also not entirely sure it should be up to a university to investigate these things. That's something the police should be doing and you Americans need to start lighting fires under their asses until they finally start taking rape cases seriously. |
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Hogrider
lemmy.world
OleFoFa@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-11 |
What an absolute shit university Columbia has become.
It does reflect the US though |
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cantstopthesignal
sh.itjust.works
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-28 |
If you misbehave, sure, but this is not misbehaving. This is a crime. One that hasn’t been proven to have happened at all. They can kick you out for no reason at all. That is a major issue. Kicking someone out of university is a life-changing punishment, and should not be taken so lightly when someone may be innocent. There should be rules about that and I don’t think this should be normalized.
Getting fired is life changing yet we accept that we could be fired at any time for no reason here in the US. Protections against getting arbitrarily kicked out of a private university would require legislation. Right now that's a risk you assume when you go to a private institution versus a public one. |
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Snowclone
lemmy.world
Snowclone@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-30 |
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Your gonna be real upset when you hear about Guernica (Picasso) |
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Impractical_Island
lemmy.world
Impractical_Island@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-04-15 |
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Art can be used for education, too, though, in my experience as an educator, entertainment and education are naturally synergistic with each other. You cannot educate without a degree of enfurthurance to the lesson, the force behind scaffolding information as that is a combined process of teacher and student enthusiasm, yet raw entertainment is rather mindless and starts to lose interest in infancy, where noise-intensity signal processing begins to lose weight in attentional algorithms once a mind begins producing ongoing an syntatical placement of a self in relation to its environment, obviously. Ie, the human attentional coordination algorithms are tuned neither to raw information download nor highest immediate priority for situational attunement. IMO, as a poet, I feel there is a "puzzle solving" aspect to my craft. I set limitations, mine mostly working on simple rhyme schemes in near pixel-perfect line length for a visual effect, and I produce a message to fit those parameters. Here is a lipogram I did, titled Nervana:
Art facilitates an aspect of intrigue to the human psyche, and it is intrigue that drives a factor within intention-setting. The awareness of this, combined with the will to defeat the banal "self" results in a divergent narrative from which one derives identity from. In my personal anecdotal experience of this, my unconscious and thus intuition became informed of general archetypal concepts to reality over the course of my adolescence, with a currently noteworthy example being how I conceptualized a part of my reality around the movie Dreamcatcher, based on a Stephen King novel. There was my memory warehouse, but there was "other" living within it, meaning I wasn't fully in control. I would once visit "other" in my astral projection/lucid dreaming experiments in my early twenties on an island constructed by "other" that had symbolic qualities, most importantly one visitation where the rendering of reality tore itself asunder so the entire graphonceptation of what can be considered physical reality asymptoted forwards, inwards you can say, towards the central mind of consciousness. I saw God. God opened Hid third eye. He saw into me to then see all of me and I caught glimpse, but shit quickly catalyzed to null in which I was blinded by the emptiness. And all was quiet. Then I was itchy, to then realize and wake up to the trepid quasitruth that I was being eaten by vampires. But there was only me. I was destroying myself. And I woke in the dampest, coldest sweat I can recall myself experiencing from a nightmare or other nightly verzore intrusion. But this just what I teach. I don't tell people where to go hides neon sign saying Live Nudes but everybody who needs to fibd a gerv ber wonb did a prurn trogdn ometr order of the thirst dong dickery doo I'm coming fur or somvf trades godf refernl lol. Obviously. |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
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@6_Electrons@lemmy.world got so upset about their comment being rightfully called out that they sent me this lovely little note:
Thought it would be best to make your message to me public knowledge. Say it with your chest. |
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6_electrons
piefed.social
6_electrons@piefed.social Joined: 2026-08-20 Banned |
@6_Electrons@lemmy.world got so upset about their comment being rightfully called out that they sent me this lovely little note: where the fuck did I question a “vicitim”… what I did do was question why someone would use the word “artist” to describer herself when she is in fact a vicitm… survivor… activist… she could have choose so many other words besides artist that wouldn’t have discounted ...
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
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If you have no problem putting your name to such messages, why the DM? I'm the scourge when you're calling people dumb fucks? Right-o. |
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Photonic
lemmy.world
Photonic@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-12 |
How are they being denied basic human rights? Title IX is very specific and the organization you refer to, FACE, specifically states their goal in relation to title IX. I can’t tell if your arguing in bad faith or you don’t understand title IX compared to other laws that would apply.
I was talking about the organisation in the first comment, but then the discussion went to public and private universities in general, which I then replied to. And the basic human right is the due process I mentioned before. You don’t have to jump to accusations “bad faith” because you and I are misunderstanding one another. Let’s try to keep Lemmy normal and not spiral into a Reddit argument. |
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Snapz
lemmy.world
Snapz@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-02 |
The story's lead image, of the person that famously always carried the mattress... is of her not holding a mattress? Did we do a journalism, Dad? |
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