It's the same crowd.

Pissmaxxing

Urine is not sterile.

No, but it will affect someone you love who might be gullible enough to believe their bullshit. Public health education saves lives because it innoculates them against believing in stupid shit like thieves' oil, horse paste, and piss-drinking.

Humans have a genetic instinct to trust their in-group, and we have a bad habit of being slow to accept new information unless we've trained the habit. It's a really nasty combination for people who never really learned critical thinking skills.

Maybe it's a way to filter out the dumbest people around. They're easily influenced and are a great target for advertising.

That's quite conspiratorial, TBH. I can picture ad buyers wanting that information, sure, but what's the motivation for the, errr, facebook group piss peddlers?

I don't see how they make money without some sponsor, or engagement money, which Facebook normally doesn't pay out AFAIK?

I mean, I have drank pee, but it wasn't my own and I was drunk at the time.

Yes, I am very sick, I need to go to this hospital... for research purposes only.

I'm afraid that's not going to be enough protection.

If people like this were able to keep to themselves, we wouldn't even know it was happening.

If that were remotely true, we wouldn't need an immune system.

As others have said, not sterile. Even if it was, though, sterile doesn't mean safe to consume.

Sometimes I feel like I'm just not good enough, ya' know? That whatever I do, I'll just never be as good as someone else doing it, so why try?

Then today I learned about a bunch of people, so unbelievably, laughably stupid, that they drink their own aged urine.

It doesn't make me feel better about myself, but it sure lowers my opinion about the average stranger.

Reverse causation. We don't have bacteria in our blood because we have an immune system

If you visit the dentist, then (in the UK) you are not meant to donate blood for the next two weeks.

Any trauma in the mouth from the dentistry will allow mouth bacteria into your bloodstream, and whilst it'll be okay for you a weaker person may not do well from the subsequent transfusion.

If someone I love is drinking their own piss, I will roast the fucking shit out of them.

This is the funniest fucking thread on the fediverse, thank you all

Those greedy billionaires just wanting to keep all the piss for themselves! They're probably hoarding it in their doomsday bunkers

/s

Wanna go to a club where people wee on each otha?

Japanese, German, American, British....

And then... the Kidney Stone Nation attacked!

Thank you, I'm tired of seeing "esoteric" get thrown around as a synonym for "niche" or "specialized," because we already have words for those things, and it waters down the meaning of the word "esoteric."

I'm also tired of seeing it get co-opted by conspiracy nutjobs who have never heard of kabbalah and who think yoga is for hippies and single moms.

"Esoteric" is basically the less-scary way of saying "occult," a word that has also been co-opted, this one by the hollywood horror genre and basically reduced to exclusively meaning "lemegeton and liber xv," when those things are actually considered highly fringe within the occultism community.

So now we can't say esoteric without people thinking we drink piss. Can't say occult without people thinking we drink... other... bodily fluids. Most of the other words that might fit have been reduced to drinking kool-aid; i.e. "mystical," "metaphysical," etc.

I think the true conspiracy is co-opting all these terms to make it impossible to talk about spiritual growth, because if people actually teach each other how to comprehend the intricacies of our own minds, and how to take our own fates into our own hands, then the people in power lose the monopoly they currently wield over our destinies.

If it's fresh then the bacteria haven't grown to dangerous levels, unless you have an infection.

That doesn't mean you should drink it, of course. But bacteria doesn't always mean bad.

The most dangerous part of fresh urine is the uric acid, which can cause kidney stones if it's allowed to build up (i.e., by drinking it over time)

Your poor microbiome...

The foot-soak part is actually true though. The uric acid does kill foot fungus. It can also cause kidney stones when consumed regularly, so don't drink it. But a foot bath is harmless (just wash your feet afterwards).

Of course, there are other ways of killing foot fungus. But in a pinch, soaking your feet in piss can actually help.

You ever drank baileys from a shoe?

These are very serious medical conditions.

“Nurse, go piss on those heart valves” etc

Nurse, this patient has pneumonia and must get 500 ccs of of that liquid gold onto the lungs STAT! Use the intubation thingy!

When I was a student there was a pub that was always heaving because you could get smashed on less than a tenner on horrible spirits. The gents toilets there was genuinely horrendous, very drunk people combined with questionable plumbing meant there was usually a half inch or so of stale piss pooled on the uneven floor by around midnight. Literally if I think about it I can still smell it, it was fucking rancid but nowhere else could you get a quad vodbull for £4 so we put up with it.

That exact smell must permeate all of these people's houses. Unless they're taking the piss I guess.

Our immune system isn't that efficient. There's always at least some bacteria in there. Just not enough to kill us, most of the time.

Do ya like watta collas?

Pleased ta meetcha!

If you've seen "recommended for you" on Facebook (or recommendations on other platforms), it's usually the dumbest shit because it drives engagement.

For the influencers, lots of visitors = potential market to peddle their piss merch, urine therapy books and recipes on YouTube

Strictly speaking, "occult" and "esoteric" accurately refer to a certain kind of niche or specialized knowledge which the layperson lacks the underlying knowledge to even understand conceptually. What you and I use the terms for is a specialized case.

As a student of the spiritually esoteric, I don't really care much about what fluids people think I drink. The goat-fucking and lizard-people jokes are so overplayed that we've reclaimed them. People are going to believe what they want, and the ones who are ready to learn won't get distracted by the noise.

This reminds me of a joke told by Dr. Eckhart von Hirschhausen. It's in German, but I suppose you'll get it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ELfALC4u3U&t=30

Conflating "esoteric" with "woo-woo nonsense" is pretty common.

someone you love who might be gullible enough to believe their bullshit.

If someone I love believes drinking their own piss is a miracle cure, that's no longer someone I love.

So an aunt can stop chemo and start drinking urine causing her to die,

I have genuinely no empathy with people who believe this kind oft bullshit. Common sense tells you it's bullshit. If you still believe it, well ... Don't stop Darwin doing bis job I'd say.

Yes, anti vaxxers didnt affect me either.

I don't rightly know, sir

Methheads.

That doesn't sound right. We'd be perpetually bacteremic if that were the case.

Seems there's a paper on this (doi 10.1038/s41564-023-01350-w) that showed that 84% of people don't have bacteria in their blood. Authors hypothesized based on the detected bacteria that the remaining 16% were likely temporary colonizations and not permanent.

So for the most part, blood appears to be sterile with some possibility of temporary low level bacteremia

Interesting, I wonder if the US has similar laws?

I think the word's original usage was specifically in reference to secretive spiritual teachings, and using it as a synonym for "niche" is a more modern phenomenon. Go back 100 years or more and I'm fairly certain most if not all uses of the term will be in reference to some combination of spirituality, philosophy, and/or proto-psychology.

Maybe the occult community has reclaimed satanic panic jokes in places where most people aren't religious anyway, but for anyone who lives in a conservative area then that stigma is definitely still a real risk that any practicing occultist needs to be aware of. As dangerous or more as being openly gay in some areas, for mostly the same reasons.

Ya eva drink baileys out of a shoe?

You know things are really out there when "I drink pee recreationally" is a valid credential of expertise for a topic that isn't "things done at a German sex club".

Also... I'm not exactly vanilla myself, and yeah: one of the things even the most depraved toiletplay enthusiasts know is "human waste is not good for you".

Roy, can you get sick drinking piss?

for anyone who lives in a conservative area then that stigma is definitely still a real risk that any practicing occultist needs to be aware of.

I don't really think terminology is really your problem. You're going to face stigma for anything outside the local dominant church. In some areas a Catholic is no better than a satanist.