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Azzu lemmy.dbzer0.com Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-28
#752 ·

I would argue that this would be the minority of users, not the majority.

Are there stats for how much voting eligible users there are, and how much of them actually vote on governance topics, or see (click on) governance topics?

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db0 lemmy.dbzer0.com db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-09
#753 ·

Are there stats for how much voting eligible users there are, and how much of them actually vote on governance topics, or see (click on) governance topics?

No

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Natanael infosec.pub Natanael@infosec.pub
Joined: 2025-01-18
#754 · (edited)

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Nobody removed your choice to change servers

It's literally part of the point of the fediverse that you can pick hosts who agree with you, who can apply moderation and bans you agree with on your behalf, and if you disagree you move and bring people with you if you can convince them

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#755 ·

Yeah, did you not read why? How else do you want piefed to mitigate onetime spam accounts to sibyl downvote comments?

Do you read because that's unrelated to their spam protections.

The scores are for activities the dev doesn't like not for spam blocking.

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_donnadie_ feddit.cl _donnadie_@feddit.cl
Joined: 2023-06-12
#756 ·

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It's kind of a weird argument considering lemmy.world has also blocked other instances, and (correct me if I'm wrong) without a vote on it.

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_‌_反いじめ戦隊 ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
#757 · (edited)

Do you read because that's unrelated to their spam protections. The scores are for activities the dev doesn't like not for spam blocking.

Again: how would you mitigate against mass onetime accounts meant to downvote specific comments fascists have been using to silence others?

Because piefed believes monitoring the “attitude” of an account and “repudiating” it are the temporary measures for this behavior.
Lemmy just let's occur, wilfully aware it persists.

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mathemachristian [he/him] lemmy.blahaj.zone mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-05
#758 ·

The countries you wish death for are roughly 90% proletariat. How can you want death for the one, but not the other?

90% proletariat

as someone who has to live in germany: X

but regardless, I wish death on germany and a long life for the proletariat.

this isn't confusing unless you're some nationalist that confuses the administrative entity for it's population.

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-12-31
#759 ·

The countries you wish death for are roughly 90% proletariat. How can you want death for the one, but not the other?

This is vulgar class reductionism. The US and Germany are both imperialist countries that bribe their proletarians with a share of the spoils of international plunder. Israel is a genocidal settler-colony that serves as a forward base for imperialist countries in West Asia. Not only is this vulgar class reductionism, but it's intentional misinterpretation. Saying "death to xyz country" means elimination of the state and the system, not genocide on the people of said country.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#760 ·

“The Jews never fought back” is not what I said. Again, you intentionally try to misinterpret what I said. I was specifically talking about the time before the Holocaust even started, there was no reason for Germans to fear Jewish people, as they were just normal people.

there was no reason for Germans to fear Jewish people, as they were just normal people.

Not even trying to hide your naked bigotry against Palestinians.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#761 ·

Do you not understand colonialism? I'm completely aware that this originally started with the zionist invasion of palestine in the early 20th century.

Really? Because elsewhere you're blaming Hamas for starting it

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Zacryon feddit.org Zacryon@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-10
#762 ·

They posted to the snark comm, the harassment follows. Just because there's no proof they were personally sending the messages doesn't absolve them of responsibility for their actions. if anything the defamation was coming from emopunker, declaring people upvoting the thread about their instance being zionist as 'the same person' to a snark comm was pretty clearly implying a call to action for someone

if anything the defamation was coming from emopunker, declaring people upvoting the thread [...] as 'the same person'

Fair point.

I am on the fence about the 'snark comm' ordeal. I think such communities are – to some degree – meaningful for a critical discourse. Imo, one should be allowed to point out and criticise users, communities, whole instances.

Then again, this should not make someone a target for harassment.

From my pov, it's a question of balancing interests here: civilised criticism is important and should be allowed. Especially in such public spaces. Denying this due to a hazard of making them a target for people who see this as a 'call to action' would suffocate such discussions completely.
So I'd address the harassers and sanction them, instead of people who merely point things out they find suspicious, as in this case.

So unless Emopunker directly incited the harassment or did it themselves, I'd lean towards: "yeah, somewhat uncool to throw such accusations in the room without further proof, but that doesn't make them the culprit".

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#763 · (edited)

I do understand what you mean, however the attempted genocide that christians, jews and muslims are doing to each other is much older than any of that. You do not truly know anymore who started, the only thing I personally know is that the same way that a genocide against Palestinians needs to be stopped, so does a call for genocide against Israelis. Of course, due to other countries (including...

Both-sidesing a genocide. You're a monster

genocide against Palestinians needs to be stopped

You condemn every group actually fighting to stop it

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#764 ·

So, it's not about "Israelis vs Palestinians", or wider, "Israelis vs Arabs". It's just literally about the establishment of Israel as a nation? That's it? Explain to me, how are you not a proponent of genocide if you want to eliminate a nation?

Explain to me, how are you not a proponent of genocide if you want to eliminate a nation?

So anyone who supported the end of Rhodesia or apartheid South Africa was pro genocide.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#765 ·

If you cannot differentiate the German government from me or the people of Germany, then I can't help you. "Full" is something entirely different. I hate what my government is doing.

You sure love defending it though

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Tatar_Nobility lemmy.ml Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-07-13
#766 ·

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TIL that containing a zionist infestation is a petty war.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#767 · (edited)

You are trying to reduce my argument to one dimension that "sounds" reasonable, while ignoring things like it literally being in the charter of Hamas to destroy all Jewish people in Israel. And you're going to say it is the prerogative of Palestinians to fight back, and again I would completely agree with you. It just doesn't make much sense to argue with you, so I'm going to stop.

Oh look, now you're straight up lying to apologize for genocide.

I would completely agree with you.

No you wouldn't, you've consistently condemned all militant resistance by Palestinians, and claimed that the Palestinian genocide isn't as bad as the Holocaust because the Jews didn't fight back. (Which, to be clear, is also a lie)

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#768 · (edited)

I love how you guys call me a "genocide defender" after I've stated so many times that Netanyahu and everybody responsible for the genocide should be tried and eliminated. :D You're exactly like MAGA - a fundamentalist who believes that if someone isn't 100% committed to ALL tenets of your cause, they're a traitor and an enemy. This tribalism is pathetic and a cancer on our society.

"I want Hitler to be prosecuted, but how dare you call for the destruction of the Reich or violence against Germany!"

You are defending genocide; you are a genocide defender.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#769 ·

Where did I deny colonialism? I acknowledge the fact that Israel is occupying (and colonising) the West Bank and Gaza, I firmly believe they should be pushed out and forced to pay reparations for the decades of stealing land and killing Palestinians. Is this "colonialism denial" to you? Yeah, it’s all just colonialism denial. You are a genocidal colonialism supporter. No amount of calling “Isra...

I firmly believe they should be pushed out and forced to pay reparations for the decades of stealing land and killing Palestinians.

No you don't. You believe it would be nice if Israel volunteered to do that willingly, but that anybody trying to force them should be condemned.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#770 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Hey look, it's Satre's anti semite.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#771 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Go back to reddit

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#772 ·

In reply to an earlier post

It’s pathetic, really.

Oh my God, you absolute loser

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#773 ·

In reply to an earlier post

I want it to be stopped by almost any means necessary

Lol. "Almost". Aka, you condemn all groups actually resisting it.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#774 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Whataboutism

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#775 · (edited)

In reply to an earlier post

"Lenin was bad, therefore it's ok to support genocide in Palestine"

Typical fucking feddit take

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#776 ·

In reply to an earlier post

????

Least incoherent shitlib

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Alaknár sopuli.xyz Alaknar@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-29
#777 ·

I firmly believe they should be pushed out and forced to pay reparations for the decades of stealing land and killing Palestinians. No you don't. You believe it would be nice if Israel volunteered to do that willingly, but that anybody trying to force them should be condemned.

WTF even is this comment? I said what I said.

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Alaknár sopuli.xyz Alaknar@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-29
#778 · (edited)

"I want Hitler to be prosecuted, but how dare you call for the destruction of the Reich or violence against Germany!" You are defending genocide; you are a genocide defender.

Oh! That's a great example!

Show me on the map which countries have partitioned and taken over Germany's lands after WW2!

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Alaknár sopuli.xyz Alaknar@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-29
#779 ·

Explain to me, how are you not a proponent of genocide if you want to eliminate a nation? So anyone who supported the end of Rhodesia or apartheid South Africa was pro genocide.

Which countries have partitioned and taken over the land of Rhodesia and South Africa? You can show me on the map.

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muelltonne feddit.org muelltonne@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-23
#780 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Dude, just do not defend mass murder. That does not make you a good person. End of discussion.

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-12-31
#781 · (edited)

Dude, just do not defend mass murder. That does not make you a good person. End of discussion.

I'm not defending mass murder, I'm defending the right of the working classes of Russia to overthrow the brutally violent Tsarist regime, and their right to defend the new socialist system they created. I'm defending the revolutionary leader that helped organize and facilitate that progressive movement that freed the working classes of Russia from conditions so brutal they died at an average age of 33, in wooden shack houses with minimal heating, all while the Tsar and capitalists made vast quantities of money and colonized the surrounding areas.

You're batting for the Tsar. The Russian working classes killed the Tsarists and capitalists that had been terrorizing them for centuries.

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BonkTheAnnoyed lemmy.blahaj.zone BonkTheAnnoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-08-13
#782 · (edited)

In reply to an earlier post

The funniest part is how many people have self identified as block-me in the replies to this comment.

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-12-31
#783 ·

It's kind of a weird argument considering lemmy.world has also blocked other instances, and (correct me if I'm wrong) without a vote on it.

You are indeed correct. Lemmy.world is less democratic than dbzer0.

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Muehe lemmy.ml Muehe@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#784 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Curiously that's the same sentiment the Zionist German left espouses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Germans_(political_current)

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LeninWeave [they] lemmy.ml LeninWeave@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-05
#785 ·

Which countries have partitioned and taken over the land of Rhodesia and South Africa? You can show me on the map.

Which countries have partitioned and taken over the land of Rhodesia

Zimbabwe.

and South Africa?

Post-apartheid South Africa.

You can show me on the map.

A map highlighting the two countries mentioned above.

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RalfWausE feddit.org RalfWausE@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-12-09
#786 ·

TIL that containing a zionist infestation is a petty war.
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zbyte64 awful.systems zbyte64@awful.systems
Joined: 2024-04-06
#787 ·

In reply to an earlier post

You didn't define authoritarianism or specifically say how it is so in this case, leaving us to guess and you to say we guessed wrong.

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-12-31
#788 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Nope, not what I believe at all, and the fact that you have to invent my beliefs proves you can't actually argue against my real ones.

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LeninWeave [they] lemmy.ml LeninWeave@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-05
#789 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Please continue to call us "tankies" for saying things like "resistance to genocide is good". I'm not joking, you're doing free propaganda for us "tankies".

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#790 · (edited)

Again: how would you mitigate against mass onetime accounts meant to downvote specific comments fascists have been using to silence others? Because piefed believes monitoring the “attitude” of an account and “repudiating” it are the temporary measures for this behavior. Lemmy just let's occur, wilfully aware it persists.

By not making a system that helps continue that exact behavior with a system that pushes people for being downvoted that exact way or don't interact with posts how the dev wants.

The ‘Rep’ column is their reputation. As you can see, some people have been downvoted thousands of times. They’re not going to change their ways, are they?

The functionality is exact opposite of what you want. It's empowering mass downvoting to silence others because that's how the system is designed.

Because piefed believes monitoring the “attitude” of an account and “repudiating” it are the temporary measures for this behavior.

Again it's not that's the guiding principle listed for how they want to have spaces and users behave.

And was your link to lemmy issues supposed to show something other than recent issues unrelated to the behavior?

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#791 ·

In reply to an earlier post

what eighty years of anticommunist propaganda does to a mf

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_‌_反いじめ戦隊 ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
#792 ·

By not making a system that helps continue that exact behavior with a system that pushes people for being downvoted that exact way or don't interact with posts how the dev wants. The ‘Rep’ column is their reputation. As you can see, some people have been downvoted thousands of times. They’re not going to change their ways, are they? The functionality is exact opposite of what you want. It's emp...

It most certainly is.

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Aequitas feddit.org Aequitas@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-27
#793 ·

TIL that containing a zionist infestation is a petty war.

Except that the “Zionist infestation” is a fictional construct in this case. db0 is fighting ghosts.

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LeninWeave [they] lemmy.ml LeninWeave@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-05
#794 ·

Except that the “Zionist infestation” is a fictional construct in this case. db0 is fighting ghosts.

What’s wrong with calling Hamas terrorists? They have randomly but deliberately killed innocent people. How else would you describe that?

  • You, calling the resistance to zionism "terrorists".
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Aequitas feddit.org Aequitas@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-27
#795 ·

What’s wrong with calling Hamas terrorists? They have randomly but deliberately killed innocent people. How else would you describe that? You, calling the resistance to zionism "terrorists".

Those who deliberately kill innocent people lose the right to be considered the resistance. They should kill the fucking IDF. But not kids at a music festival or random civilians.

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7101334 lemmy.world 7101334@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#796 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Sure.

Israel's is though. Because they're Zionazis.

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7101334 lemmy.world 7101334@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#797 ·

In reply to an earlier post

More privileged than a Palestinian, hell yeah. So it's still your duty.

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LeninWeave [they] lemmy.ml LeninWeave@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-05
#798 · (edited)

Those who deliberately kill innocent people lose the right to be considered the resistance. They should kill the fucking IDF. But not kids at a music festival or random civilians.

All violence in a settler colony, including the violence perpetrated by and against the colonizers, is the fault of the colonizers.

They should kill the fucking IDF. But not kids at a music festival or random civilians.

You're right, they should be given:

  • advanced military technology and intelligence data
  • ways to openly organize without being killed by Mossad, Shin Bet, and the IOF
  • perfect control over every person who happens to pick up a gun during any of their operations

to make sure they can more efficiently kill only soldiers.

Since we're wishing for things, I also wish every "Israeli" genocide supporter would just disappear without the resistance having to do anything.

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Tatar_Nobility lemmy.ml Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-07-13
#799 ·

[deleted]

Why do you feel offended by the fact that another instance wants to ensure a safe space for its users?

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Alaknár sopuli.xyz Alaknar@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-29
#800 ·

Which countries have partitioned and taken over the land of Rhodesia Zimbabwe. and South Africa? Post-apartheid South Africa. You can show me on the map.

I'm sorry, are you a disabled person? Or did you forget the point you guys were trying to make?

Rhodesia changed its government and name.

South Africa changed its government.

No third parties partitioned the lands of either.

Your examples are advocating for my approach of punishing the leadership and giving the people a fresh start.

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#801 ·

It most certainly is.

So links to same page saying it's features made to do social media credit scores and then piefed issues?

What are you trying to say with that?

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