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ExtraJudgement lemmy.world ExtraJudgement@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-14
#152 · (edited) Quote Reply

I mean the word you want is prejudice but sure star racism is a lot catchier and race is a construct anyways.

Prejudice is much too generic imho.

"Races" in racism are (socially constructed, as you said) classes assigned from conception/birth, which racists believe to have class-specific inherited (often behavioural) traits.

The only functional difference between (classical) racism and the (star) racism of astrology is that one claims inheritance via genetics, the other inheritance via "vibes" from star formations.

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#153 · Quote Reply

Honestly while I'm secular myself, this stance would lead to me politely refusing a second date. Yes astrology is daft, but most of the things you and I believe are daft too or at least only locally true and culturally constructed rather than globally true. I don't care if someone is religious or secular, what I do care is to what extent they believe humanity can know unfiltered truth in the fi...

So when you buy a coffee do you lecture the cashier about how 'culturally constructed' money is, or do you just pay them?

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Rcklsabndn sh.itjust.works Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-08-16
#154 · Quote Reply

In the same way I feel bad for all the women out that had to put up with conversations about crypto for the last decade, the astrology for dudes

The amount of times I've asked a crypto bro to tell me exactly what The Blockchain is and them being able to actually lucidly explain it is exactly 0, in my experience.

I know there's science somewhere in there, but the loudest enthusiasts I've come across treat it like magic.

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KuroiKaze lemmy.world KuroiKaze@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
#155 · Quote Reply

The Orville!

What the fuck is this just a guy like narrating the entire episode in the most boring way possible

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imadethis fedinsfw.app imadethis@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-03-05
#156 · Quote Reply

It's clearly pseudoscientific nonsense. But it's easier to say "I'm a pisces" instead of "I'm feeling hesitant about the future of our relationship, Sarah" if she is into that. The value is in being able to reference loose personality archetypes without having to spend a paragraph describing someone.

The problem is that you're not really referencing "loose personality archetypes" in these sorts of conversations, they're being assigned to you, relatively arbitrarily. It doesn't matter if I'm serious and thoughtful, but because I was born on the third moon after the pomegranate harvest, I'm the joker of the group.

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imadethis fedinsfw.app imadethis@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-03-05
#157 · Quote Reply

How do you "go" gay?

Leather helps, I think.

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imadethis fedinsfw.app imadethis@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-03-05
#158 · Quote Reply

then it's harmful and should probably be stopped. ideally you'd have empirically verified folk wisdom, but then it isn't folk wisdom anymore, just science.

I don't know if the website has been updated recently, but http://www.whatstheharm.net/astrology.html has a pretty good record of the harm various pseudosciences have caused.

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imadethis fedinsfw.app imadethis@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-03-05
#159 · Quote Reply

If they are into getting nerdy with charts and tables, there might be a chance to hook them up with Dungeons and Dragons... 🤔

Do you have the hooks? Because I've got the dungeon, baby! 👈 🤠👉

🤟 And alfred in the corner is pretending to be a dragon, don't mind him.

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#160 · (edited) Quote Reply

God you are so close.

i know. i can't ever understand. my skin is white therefore I just can't help going around oppressing other people.

if I truly understood my privileged, I'd just kill myself so I stop oppressing everyone, but only if I donate all my assets to some random poor black immigrant woman who is trans, mentally ill, and physically disabled, right? gotta maximize those intersectionality underprilvedged points to offset my privileged points!

FWIW I live in a city where people talk about stupid shit like this all day. But I don't ever seem them giving up their million dollar homes and Teslas to poor black folks. I wonder why that is. Almost as if their conservations about this are more about status signalling to each other more than anything else...

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athatet lemmy.zip athatet@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-09-12
#161 · Quote Reply

i know. i can't ever understand. my skin is white therefore I just can't help going around oppressing other people. if I truly understood my privileged, I'd just kill myself so I stop oppressing everyone, but only if I donate all my assets to some random poor black immigrant woman who is trans, mentally ill, and physically disabled, right? gotta maximize those intersectionality underprilvedged ...

Okay. Maybe you aren’t as close as I thought.

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KuroiKaze lemmy.world KuroiKaze@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
#162 · Quote Reply

So lads, I've been single for the last 6 years. Which Gunpla model shall I put together next?

Judging by my single friends that do this stuff like an ever more fancy one with spikes errywhere and a gun half it's body size

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KuroiKaze lemmy.world KuroiKaze@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
#163 · Quote Reply

Every straight simp.

Oh, it's even worse in the gay community. I think like 75 or 80% of my gay friends engage in this shit.

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Wander sh.itjust.works Wander@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-10-11
#164 · Quote Reply

A friend set me up on a date with a coworker of him. then she spent about 20 minutes drawing my astral chart. She had notes, books and even an iPad app. Eventually she concluded we were not compatible, while I concluded the same thing about 20 seconds in.

Would you smash though?

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Clay_pidgin sh.itjust.works clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-14
#165 · Quote Reply

What the fuck is this just a guy like narrating the entire episode in the most boring way possible

So it is. I grabbed the first result, sorry.

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Wander sh.itjust.works Wander@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-10-11
#166 · Quote Reply

Dated a girl and, while we were walking through the park, she points up at the sky. "Oh look, Chemtrails". I absolutely bust up laughing, because I assume I've accidentally stepped into a relationship with a conspiracy theorist. She looks incredibly confused. I explain what chemtrails are. She gets even more confused. We whip out our phones for a minute. She says, "Omg I meant contrails" She's ...

First day of uni. Having lunch with 3 people.

"Hey do any of you watch my little pony?"

I burst out laughing. Turns out guy was super serious. He was convincing enough that he managed to get me to watch half of friendship is magic before I decided i would never talk to him again.

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decolo piefed.social decolo@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-06-29
#167 · Quote Reply

The problem is that you're not really referencing "loose personality archetypes" in these sorts of conversations, they're being assigned to you, relatively arbitrarily. It doesn't matter if I'm serious and thoughtful, but because I was born on the third moon after the pomegranate harvest, I'm the joker of the group.

No, I think it's pretty reasonable to push back if you're being pigeonholed into some kind of archetype you disagree with. Tell them to stop being such Capricorns. The trick is it doesn't really matter what sign you use, it's just a bit

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JigglySackles lemmy.world JigglySackles@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#168 · Quote Reply

There are more stupid people than non-stupid people. Getting laid is a numbers game. You vastly reduce your chances if you start getting picky.

But maybe, just maybe, and I know I'm talking crazy here, but maybe if you weed out the ones that aren't worthwhile your quality will go up.

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pega_sus lemmy.world pega_sus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-08
#169 · Quote Reply

yeah but you get laid more if you agree to blame nebulous abstract concepts for personal and social grievances. or blame their parents.... that always works too.

Ah, it says straight men, therein is the disconnect

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ThisUsernameKillsFascists piefed.social ThisUsernameKillsFascists@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-02
#170 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

What you are misunderstanding (possibly intentionally), is that each axis of power dynamics has more- and less-privileged positions: race, class, sex, gender, sexual orientation, physical dis/ability, mental dis/ability, etc. A fully able-bodied and mentally healthy rich, white, straight, cis man is obviously going to be more privileged than a paraplegic, poor, black, gay, trans woman with learning disabilities (but note that even this does not automatically translate into more happiness, better self-esteem, etc.). But if you try to compare the privilege of an upper-middle class, native-American, gay, cis woman born with only one hand vs. a poor, white, straight, cis, teenage boy with ADHD, it’s much thornier, and ultimately not an important comparison to make.

When people speak of white privilege, they are saying that a white person lives generally unencumbered by their race and how others perceive them because of it. They are, in aggregate, less likely to be pulled over or stopped by police. They are more likely to get job interviews, and to be seen as a good potential hire by those interviewing them.

For male privilege, it means being more likely to be seen as leadership material, less likelihood of being sexually assaulted, a probability of higher lifetime earnings, and less chance of having one’s ailments dismissed by doctors, or of being passed over for a promotion because you might someday get pregnant and need maternity leave.

Every axis of privilege is different, they are not particularly cross-comparable, and they are all just probabilities - none are deterministic. Some types of privilege are fairly inherent (class, health/ability), while others are based on how our society treats people differently based on group affiliation (race, sex, gender, sexuality). The point of identifying these is not to shame those who have privilege, but rather to recognize the various difficulties faced by those who are less privileged, so that we might mitigate those challenges. In a just world, everyone would be treated as though they were a member of the privileged group(s) along every axis, and judged only by their own actions.

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cinoreus lemmy.world cinoreus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-01-20
#171 · Quote Reply

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So, my gayness is what's protecting me from superstitious women?

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diaphragmwp discuss.tchncs.de diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2026-06-03
#172 · Quote Reply

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How fucking many? Where the fuck is it 30%? The US? Source?

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captainlezbian lemmy.world captainlezbian@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#173 · Quote Reply

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It's a vers. Switches are between dominant and submissive

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untorquer quokk.au untorquer@quokk.au
Joined: 2025-12-03
#174 · Quote Reply

So, my gayness is what's protecting me from superstitious women?

I think it's a case of correlation as opposed to causation but yes, absolutely.

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#175 · (edited) Quote Reply

Ah, it says straight men, therein is the disconnect

LGBT+ folks believe in astrology at the same rate as straight women.

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Victor lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-14
#176 · Quote Reply

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Hmm?

What does that even mean in this context, "latent"?

You mean "unexplored"? If I'm a "latent" homosexual, it just means I'm homosexual, no? So if by "go" you mean "be true to myself", then fine, I guess?

But if I'm bi, or straight, I can't just turn off my attraction to the opposite sex to "go gay".

Please correct me if I'm wrong, non-straight, non-gay people! Is it possible to just flip your attractions off? Sincerely, cis straight male who's earnestly trying to be as woke as possible and educate myself to be accurate and inclusive.

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ILikeBoobies lemmy.ca ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-08-14
#177 · Quote Reply

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That's such a Gemini thing to say.

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diaphragmwp discuss.tchncs.de diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2026-06-03
#178 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Associating operating systems/kernels with sexuality, hmmmmm... What would you assign to these?

  1. Windows from Microsoft (modern)
  2. [Mac/i/watch]OS (are they different?)
  3. Android (kernel changed enough that I consider it it's own semi-compatible thing rather than Linux)
  4. [Open/Net/Free/Dragonfly/Ghost/Hardened/Midnight/MirOS /Fuguita ]BSD (are they different?)
  5. ArcaOS
  6. Haiku
  7. 9front
  8. Inferno64
  9. GNU Hurd
  10. MINIX
  11. RiscOS
  12. SerenityOS
  13. Redox
  14. PureDarwin

edit: made list numbered

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#179 · (edited) Quote Reply

But maybe, just maybe, and I know I'm talking crazy here, but maybe if you weed out the ones that aren't worthwhile your quality will go up.

for a lot of people being picky means they will never get laid. and that's fine, if you can accept that.

but they don't. they are enraged by the lack of 'quality' people available to them. and offended by the abundance of low quality people available to them.

the idea you can 'raise your standards' and get 'better results', in dating/mating, is mostly cope. Especially when you start looking at the statistics. truth is people really should lower them, and well, humble themselves. because most folks aren't nearly as 'hot' as they perceive themselves to be.

it's also highly subjective. I attract a lot of very desirable women, but they aren't desirable to me due to my own biases and lifestyle preferences. Just yesterday I got like half dozen likes from women on Hinge, but they all worked in finance or pharma, so I rejected them because for me working in those industries means 'low quality' just like believe in astrology. But if I wanted to get laid? Yeah I should get over that bias, those type of women really like me, even though I hate them. And I only developed this bias due to my younger years... repeatedly trying to date them and running into the same miserable issues again and again.

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Gust piefed.social Gust@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-10-08
#180 · Quote Reply

I used to be a bit of a dick about astrology. I still think it's nonsense, but now I kinda view it as a structure for people to explore their own emotions and as a kind of authority struct to get people to treat those emotions as valid. Ultimately I feel like its no different than me sharing emo song lyrics with an "omg they understand me frfr" type message. Maybe the astrology believer isn't upset because Venus is in retrograde or whatever, but they are upset their emotions are valid. I don't gain anything from being a wet blanket about scientific accuracy in that situation, and they feel like I am invalidating their emotions if I choose to be that scientifically accurate wet blanket. Plus, retrograde is a dope word and I'm not sure if I'd know it if not for the crystal girls I've dated

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ayyy sh.itjust.works ayyy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-06-20
#181 · Quote Reply

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It’s a good thing nobody is doing that, then. Nowhere near half of women believe that nonsense.

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#182 · (edited) Quote Reply

I used to be a bit of a dick about astrology. I still think it's nonsense, but now I kinda view it as a structure for people to explore their own emotions and as a kind of authority struct to get people to treat those emotions as valid. Ultimately I feel like its no different than me sharing emo song lyrics with an "omg they understand me frfr" type message. Maybe the astrology believer isn't u...

yes. they want to feel their emotions are valid. even if they aren't. Astrology and other theoretical systems also take the locus of control out of their own authority and place it in a higher authority to which they are subjected.

and therein lies the problem. not every emotion is valid. some emotions are invalid. but if you aren't responsible for the causes of your emotions... you're not responsible for figuring out which ones are valid or invalid. they are something that happens to you, not something you control.

and happy well-adjusted folks... learn to figure out which is which, and unhappy folks... can't or won't do this. and a huge part of therapeutic processes is ... learning to identify and assess your own emotional states and whether or not to act on them.

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ArachnidMania lemmy.ca ArachnidMania@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-06-24
#183 · Quote Reply

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Just what a Gemini would say!

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kestrel7_7 lemmy.world kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#184 · Quote Reply

I don't know if the website has been updated recently, but http://www.whatstheharm.net/astrology.html has a pretty good record of the harm various pseudosciences have caused.

This site needs a page on the harm caused by not using HTTPS

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ayyy sh.itjust.works ayyy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-06-20
#185 · Quote Reply

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Did you spill soda on your shift key?

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kestrel7_7 lemmy.world kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#186 · Quote Reply

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Yeah man, I hear about those roving gangs of astrology girlies murdering people like all the time

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#187 · (edited) Quote Reply

Prejudice is much too generic imho. "Races" in racism are (socially constructed, as you said) classes assigned from conception/birth, which racists believe to have class-specific inherited (often behavioural) traits. The only functional difference between (classical) racism and the (star) racism of astrology is that one claims inheritance via genetics, the other inheritance via "vibes" from sta...

Yeah, it's deterministic sorting. That's what racism is too. The idea you must possess/lack inherent traits based on your race, for astrology it's your DOB.

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#188 · (edited) Quote Reply

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have you ever had anyone argue with you about your star sign?

I have, it was wild. They insisted my DOB was wrong and I was totally a Capricorn. They also argued with me that my job was awful and unfulfilling, despite me saying I enjoyed it. That was also bizarre.

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rhymeswithduck sh.itjust.works rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-18
#189 · Quote Reply

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I don't think astrology begets antivax beliefs, though they do both fall under the woo-woo alternative health/spirituality umbrella. I know people who are into one or the other but not necessarily both.

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#190 · (edited) Quote Reply

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because they are

nobody takes them seriously other than teenagers and other emotionally immature folks.

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#191 · (edited) Quote Reply

The amount of times I've asked a crypto bro to tell me exactly what The Blockchain is and them being able to actually lucidly explain it is exactly 0, in my experience. I know there's science somewhere in there, but the loudest enthusiasts I've come across treat it like magic.

it's not magic, it's just really boring and stupid if you explain it well.

it's just a decentralized authentication network built on cryptography algorithms. but i guess if you don't know what any of those words mean it seems mysterious. you need a baseline understanding of networking and cryptography, and well, very few people have that.

and people attribute financial value to each bitcoin (or whatever coin), which is just a piece of code you uniquely possess when it is in your 'wallet'.

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kestrel7_7 lemmy.world kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#192 · Quote Reply

The amount of times I've asked a crypto bro to tell me exactly what The Blockchain is and them being able to actually lucidly explain it is exactly 0, in my experience. I know there's science somewhere in there, but the loudest enthusiasts I've come across treat it like magic.

It's really not that interesting unless you're specifically into cryptography, and then it's like, kind of interesting for 20 minutes. I remember when "the blockchain" first came out people were talking about lots of potential uses (secure online voting was the only one that comes to mind) besides scamming people and selling illegal stuff, but of course none of those ever materialized.

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NihilsineNefas slrpnk.net NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-19
#193 · Quote Reply

As long as they make fun of you for having an MBTI phase, then all is well in love and peace

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kestrel7_7 lemmy.world kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#194 · (edited) Quote Reply

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You missed the context that they were proud to avoid learning about a technology that ended up being a waste of time. I imagine they would have preferred going to class and learning about something real, it sounds like they just skipped the blockchain stuff. They're flexing about being more prescient than most of his peers (and professors!), and they're not wrong. 90% of strategy is knowing what not to do.

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jj4211 lemmy.world jj4211@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#195 · Quote Reply

I used to be a bit of a dick about astrology. I still think it's nonsense, but now I kinda view it as a structure for people to explore their own emotions and as a kind of authority struct to get people to treat those emotions as valid. Ultimately I feel like its no different than me sharing emo song lyrics with an "omg they understand me frfr" type message. Maybe the astrology believer isn't u...

In short, you choose getting laid.

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Delusions lemmy.dbzer0.com Delusions@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-18
#196 · Quote Reply

First day of uni. Having lunch with 3 people. "Hey do any of you watch my little pony?" I burst out laughing. Turns out guy was super serious. He was convincing enough that he managed to get me to watch half of friendship is magic before I decided i would never talk to him again.

Tbf The show was well written for a children's show... But it was still a children show

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dkppunk piefed.social dkppunk@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-11-19
#197 · Quote Reply

Okay. Maybe you aren’t as close as I thought.

Do not waste your breath on that one. He’s the single most obnoxious person I’ve seen on Lemmy.

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boonhet lemmy.zip boonhet@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-08-12
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#198 · (edited) Quote Reply

It’s a good thing nobody is doing that, then. Nowhere near half of women believe that nonsense.

Oh sorry, only 43% of women aged 18-49, I guess 43% is nowhere near half. I suppose if you're a granny chaser then it is indeed only a quarter. If you're into LGBT folks, it actually goes above 50% (over 60% for LGBT women).

Since my own dating pool and most of my friendships are smack dab in the middle of that 18-49 demographic, I can tell you it's easily around half of women around that age who believe in astrology, tarot or something else similar here in Estonia, so it's not US specific either. Including a lot of otherwise very intelligent women. A master's degree in a STEM field for example does not discourage one from believing in astrology by any means.

Or perhaps you just don't know enough women?

Oh and men aren't all innocent either. A fifth of men aged 18-49 believe in astrology or similar superstitions too. Less than half as many as women, but still a significant amount.

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BillionaireStew lemmy.world BillionaireStew@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-19
#199 · Quote Reply

In short, you choose getting laid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqxbb9qVPlI

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stopforgettingit lemmy.world stopforgettingit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-28
#200 · Quote Reply

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The Manosphere/alpha/beta/sigma BS is the real astrology for guys. Crypto is not a pseudo science its just gambling.

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ayyy sh.itjust.works ayyy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-06-20
#201 · Quote Reply

Oh sorry, only 43% of women aged 18-49, I guess 43% is nowhere near half. I suppose if you're a granny chaser then it is indeed only a quarter. If you're into LGBT folks, it actually goes above 50% (over 60% for LGBT women). Since my own dating pool and most of my friendships are smack dab in the middle of that 18-49 demographic, I can tell you it's easily around half of women around that age w...

Wow that statistic is way more depressing than I realized. I guess I am lucky to only be surrounded by non-crazy women.

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