I guess because nobody who works closely with AI would seriously believe they can run shit by themselves.

i have been , hell go all the way back to Bertrand Russel, he does as well, see his treatise "In Praise of Idleness", famous economists like Maynard Keys projected we'd all be broking 15 hrs a week now for the same pay.

Productivity increases have gone to the very wealthy and we've voted for it, over decades, over and over and in the face of all that evidence ? we'd fuck in' do it again, Leopards Eating My Face is full of examples. Solutions ? there arent any, the world has to many hateful and stupid people easily led by physcopaths and grifters . Not just the US, it's near ubiquitous.

Keep defending AI, dude, and then turning it around and making it sound like it's about my ignorance.

You're acting like I can't see past my own desk? And yet you refuse to acknowledge the impact this is having on millions of working class people.

And none of those jobs have been taken by ai, [...] But the entire work section isn’t suddenly gone. [...] software engineers, they’re not gone are they?

Oh, so you haven't been paying attention? That's literally what's happening. Huge layoffs, tech workers unable to find work in what used to be considered one of the most secure job fields, and worst of all it's entry-level positions that are getting hit the hardest. New grads are almost entirely unable to find jobs. And this problem will only get worse as the senior positions retire and there's no one to replace them because companies weren't hiring new juniors.

And I'm not even a tech worker, so for you to insinuate that I'm somehow making this all about me is ridiculous. There's something called empathy which enables humans to give a shit about problems that mostly impact other people. I know that's so hard for you to wrap your mind around, so clearly you have to tell yourself that I'm actually being selfish by giving a shit about this. Whatever.

Jesus Christ I’m not defending ai, if that’s all you took from this exchange, you’re clearly not reading or comprehending anything that’s been said.

Good bye.

Then you're completely ignoring the context of this conversation, because it's what it's been about from the start.

Good riddance.

AI bros dont understand the concept of "love".

How could we maximize productivity if we allowed people leisure?

Make working fun! Jk

Can a robot love?

Oops cats out the bag.

I am.

My dream job is being jobless in a world where everything is automated.

The professionals, who obviously could wash clothes just by staring at them.

Bicentennial Man says "yes".

In order to work less (fewer hours or more time off), we need legislation that restricts work hours and requires companies to grant a minimum amount of time off. I agree with the sentiment that AI could free us up for more leisure, but in the absence of legislation, companies will just squeeze more productivity out of each worker without granting more leisure time.

Because who would provide the income tax?

I have yet to see AI pick up garbage,now a lawn, fix a toilet, make a bed.... AI won't take all jobs, just the ones that actually paid well because it required mental skills and experience e.g.coding, graphics.... We will fight for the low paying manual labor Jobs and there will not be enough of those to satisfy demand, so wages will decrease.

Its a dystopian future for us.

AI doesn't exist. LLMs aren't doing anyone's jobs.
They help search for stuff, like finding molecules and DNA strands in medicine. Finding a book out of an entire library. Boilerplate code. Frequently asked questions. That's all they do. Parroting, searching, and other menial tasks that can be done thanks to prediction.
People may save time thanks to them, but they still have to do their jobs.

When an "AI" appears to show any kind of competency outside of being a glorified search engine, it's because they have an underpaid human behind it actually refining the results.

Why would the owners willingly give up those chains? If AI removes the need for work and money, then Elon Musk is just another guy on the street. Can't see billionaires accepting that.

I think its way more likely a Elon Musk would harness AI and Robotics to create personal fiefdoms whilst the rest of us live in the "bad lands"

Very true

Saw elsewhere, but fits your post exactly.

Legislating capitalism is like cupping your hands under a tap and hoping the sink below never gets wet.

Speak for yourself. I have been a 4 day work week advocate for eons.

Lots of people are saying that what are you talking about? It's just not any of the Epstein class.

'supposedly love'... someone didn't get enough hugs growing up.

How many hugs is enough hugs?

Another question, what was the appropriate amount of hugs that you obviously recieved?

Maybe we can swoon the oppressor with a song?

Search engines changed the world. I agree, we shouldnt grant inanimate objects qualities of humans but that what we do.

I dont like this argument because they always default to, "we pay the most taxes" when they rightfully should. No one man does billions of dollars worth of work. No one person can claim they are inherently orders of magnitude better than the next.

Numbers get misportrayed and people who dont understand them get fooled.

Blood from a stone.

Quite the jutsu.

Mine is having a job automating everything.

Can we be friends?

That's not how the economy works. Unless there's no human work to do at all, most will just be pushed out of their comfier thinking jobs into physical labor jobs.

Thats not how productivity works. We dont just stop at slave labor we industrialize everything.

The techbros advocating for the ai don't have families they love. At best, they have trophy family.

run a business. it's unsustainable to be kind to your employees because your competition won't. capitalism is fractal, you can understand it at every level by comprehending any individual level. you need secrets, cleverness, ruthlessness and sustainability.

You might be too young to understand how good search engines USED TO BE. With determination nothing was impossible, there's nothing line that today, not even AI

This is about it. If you can produce 2x output per worker you're not going to give each worker half days, you're going to cut down your workforce until supply once again matches demand. As this cycle repeats jobs become more and more competitive as workers fight for placements at these more efficient firms. They'll pursue advanced degrees and extra certifications to stand out. This produces a lot of stuff, but ultimately creates a warped standard of living. Higher productivity ironically makes time spent not working or pursuing prerequisites to work more expensive.

Yeah but have you met those fucking kids...?

AI will do all the white collar jobs, robots will continue doing more of the tedious manual work. What will be left is insane competition for jobs that are like custom maintenance, nursing, etc. But the question becomes, what does a society look like with over 30% of workers no longer needing to work because AI is doing it, while about 30% of worker's positions are still extremely necessary?

HELL no! We can work even more overtime and make even more money for our billionaire masters!

Why didnt I think if that. My bad.

Everyone pictures the final outcome so clearly... like we just going to pretend we are good at predicting the future with pinpoint accuracy?

... pharsing

Until less youre trying to summon the epstein class.

Rose tint glasses much?

The best was just putting reddit after everything.

That was only like 5 years ago.

Sorry but thats just not true. You better believe the kind employer has the best talent. Its just... well if youve never experienced what it is to work with talented people...

Really flipped that on its head

People fail to realise we have already reached the threshold for nonessential jobs; that's why people can make millions from being an influencer.

The competition for jobs is so tight that its a luxury to have a job; think about how fucked up that is.

You are filled with life and love and optimism and that combination deserves to thrive. I don't think you understand markets yet, but I hope you have the greatest success.

you are VERY young, then. i have success-tinted glasses from 2004, nothing delusional about it. learn about regular expressions and be amazed, you can even call it AI if it keeps you interested in it

Give me a break. Quit trolling