If it is a different team, why wouldn't you just say that's your recommendation? Your story isn't making sense

Is this something I can deploy on my homeland for my web facing services? Or am I miss understanding the purpose

Yes, your reverse proxy serves this and only then the actual service when the client solved it

is crowdsec no longer the gold standard? I've been sself hosting since ... forever and I've never heard of anubis, but I've seen it in the wild.

Suggesting a self hosted alternative in an enterprise environment is a no-no (unless you're in a startup)

Any self respecting enterprise level business will require warranty and support which self hosted solutions do not offer. Good luck trying to get an "SLA" out of Anubis support, if it even exists.

Sounds to me like you need a WAF (if you want to self host it for some reason) there are other enterprise level services that specialize in this. Zscaler comes to mind, but there are dozens.

Free plug for my company because they help pay the bills.

https://www.imperva.com/products/web-application-firewall-waf/

Look at the anubis challenge algorithm, reimplement it, publish it for the rest of your government organizations.

Not my teams job, we won't get time or budget for that

Anubis is pretty weird, I can see why.

I think cloudflare is an alternative

It sucks that everyone has decided that the nuclear option was the only way, you don't realize it till you try to setup a HA dashboard on a pi and get stuck loading a website for 5 minutes

This was like 10 years ago when it was still new, but yea, in the end glad they didn't go with it. Just mentioned it because I've seen the same experience of software options being declined just due to just name and logo and not the actual functionality of the software.

I was just taking issue with the responses ignoring the context given, and rudely. If I say I can't use something and why (and that why is other people's opinions) it's super unhelpful to angrily tell me why those other people are wrong. It's irrelevant if they're wrong or not. I think I could've overlooked whether it is relevant or not honestly, but comment after comment saying it, many of them with a shitty tone, is why I commented.

Getting mad is kinda just what social media does

I would say it's what the Internet does. Post a question on stack overflow and you'll get the meanest responses each one telling you you're stupider than the last. Same vibes in this thread.

I was just taking issue with the responses ignoring the context given, and rudely.

Yup. The fediverse is usually better than reddit but it looks like today several people got up and chose angry instead of helpful. It happens for sure. I do love how helpful some of these have been though. Lots of good advice among the arguments at least.

Yeah now that I look back there are more than like 3 people not mad/rude about it.

https://codeberg.org/wheresalice/go-away
Even if you didn't have the issues with branding, this is just generally better than Anubis.

Is it really shooting itself in the foot, though? There are plenty of FOSS projects that companies benefit from and never contribute back to, either monetarily, or in the form of writing code. They provide an easy option to make it look more professional while helping to support the project, and you could always fork it and do what you need to with your fork. The idea that developers should do a thankless job to maintain their software in a way that complies with random corporate policies in order to be more widely adopted strikes me as setting up devs to burn out and crash from having all the joy ground out of their projects for them.

UNESCO, the Wikimedia foundation and other major organizations have already implemented it and gotten onboard, so I would suggest your coworkers are being a bit foolish in completely disregarding it because of a single mascot image that has a clear option to replace. The Dev is just saving themselves aggravation from people that were going to make endless demands of them, but most likely balk at actually supporting the project to enable features that only matter to their organization, but not to the Dev themselves or others.

People shouldn't have to jump through that many hoops to recommend something, that's ridiculous

True, but only for a commercial offering.

False, for free or open source software. Makemkv is the absolute best tool for ripping DVDs and bluerays. It requires being compiled from source in order to be used for free. Anubis charges 50/month to change the branding. These both serve the same purpose; a mild speedbump to encourage paying for the work of the developer.

Anubis' direct competitor will straight up hold your business hostage and blackmail your company for money when they feel like they can get away with it.

The 'ridiculous hoops to jump through' are there for the developers benefit, and are incredibly mild compared to most every other commercial offering. I just don't see why it matters so much that anubis must change in this way.

So it is like a captcha?

Their colleague posted a laughing emoji, I think they are not trying enough. They are also attacking the mascot themselves, which conveys they don't want to use the tool themselves either and are just looking for validation.

Krita’s pretty close, but unfortunately not quite as close as the program our friend Wilber represents :’)

Kind of, but your browser needs to solve it (which classic ai scrapers weren't able to)

A WAF is a completely different thing than Anubis. ~~ And it also has an enterprise version with support. ~~ Edit: misremembered that, there's a commercial version but IDK about support

Kinda pretty opinionated reply for not knowing what OP is about

It is good that they're working towards sustainability though. Lots of devs burn out.

There's a HUGE difference between the enterprise/government space than small business. I agree the line isnt commercial, but also thems (enterprise/gov) gotta be the ones to support projects.

I wrote a crowdsec bouncer that outputs an anubis config. They work together well.

Anubis doesn't try to do any detection or blocking by itself.

They said they already went through this once before. Also you assume that "it's weird" is some kind of vicious attack but it's not.

the insane smugness and inability to comprehend that money isnt everything for the creator is astounding "Waaahhh Anubis isn't gonna get my money cus they chose to look UNPROFESSIONAL" this is why everyone hates corpo guys

edit: I forgot to add the comments elsewhere downright accusing the creator of being a pedo for having an anime furry mascot yeah you guys arent subtle at all

finger touch grep awk cat pip, Red Hat..

Unix. GNU.

Dumb jokes and weird branding kinda comes with the package. People have fun.

I think 'get over it' is a pretty reasonable take, overall.

but using Cancer emoji... very professional.

Your work environment is bad if they are so easily distracted by branding and can't deal with 'unporfessional' and 'weird' things.

MBAs love getting ripped off.

There is a debranded version you can pay for

The type of folks who avoid Anubis because of the mascot don't deserve good bot protection anyway. Its like reverse gate keeping, the corpo dorks filter themselves out.

If they (budget-givers) won't let you (plural, team) get budget to alternativise the software, that is an indication that the catgirl is not really an issue. Or, alternatively, that to them the catgirl is worth that much money.

So it is not something that a normal user sees like a puzzle you need to solve before accessing a certain service?

if it's self hosted, just replace the image with your company logo, problem solved.

Brother I hear you, I do. The problem isn't the workplace, the problem is that some people will find this unprofessional enough to bitch. Any public facing anything for any company will be heavily scrutinized by a subset of people who actively look for things to bitch about.

The professional, whitewashed and soulless veneer on every professional website is the direct result of hoards of bored idiots with nothing better to do than bitch about any perceived insult, however slight. You either have an organization that absolutely revels in it, or you end up with the same safe corporate bullshit everyone else has.

The user sees it but just has to wait a bit, see the screenshot in the OP.

I think I've just never worked in an environment like this it was always either a startup where nobody cares about branding of some tool (also there wouldn't even be a discussion about it) or places where it wasn't a priority as long as it worked because menagerial class was limited in numbers so they couldn't poke where it wasn't required.

Explain the business strategy

oh they do want all the shit anubis and other foss projects offers which is why they keep trying to browbeat and bully them whenever they arent soulless slop, see the comment thread elsewhere in this post where a bunch of fucks keep jerking off to their idea of replacing the catgirl with a grey square or something so that muh MaRkEt can get over itself and take over properly compensate the project

You can just do that yourself. Take the logo off.

thats the thing they are explicitly making a brandless soulless alternative you can change the branding for yet there's still complaints and accusations for how the og software looks

which is what gives me the feeling these aren't real concerns and is just a way to bully people working for free, if not some sort of astroturf conspiracy by businessmen who want anti-ai tools out of the way

I want to remind everyone to keep on topic. Disparaging people for whatever reason is not on topic.

If you see something problematic, please report rather than respond. Your comment in response will be nuked along with the original problem comment.

Anubis provides a non-cutesy version. The only one dying on a hill here is you guys refusing to consider it.

Yes.

That was not the issue with tesseract or its dev, let's be honest.

There are plenty of small businesses that use "enterprise" as well, and have wonderfully descriptive forms like "small to medium enterprise" and my absolute favorite - "micro enterprise", for organizations with (generally) under 10 people.

Again, I support there being a meta discussion about this so the community can have a consensus, but we aren't doing that in this thread.

Enterprise is a size of the oruchasing company, not the quality of software.

See comment you replied to about "size" and "enterprise". At no point did I comment on quality.

My comment was this thread is not the place for this discussion.

came here to say just that