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Smackyroon lemmy.ml Smackyroon@lemmy.ml
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Broadfern lemmy.world Broadfern@lemmy.world
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Per Wikipedia:

The program first emerged in the early 2000s, inspired by the credit scoring systems in other countries.

It’s almost the same thing but a different name, and is nationalized to a state system instead of like 3 or 4 companies lmao

Right wingers fear the word “social” for some reason ig

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Sgt_choke_n_stroke lemmy.world Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world
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Yea, China monitors a billion people in their country and assigns them a score if a citizen walks on the sidewalk correctly /s

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yea, China monitors a billion people in their country and assigns them a score if a citizen walks on the sidewalk correctly /s

assigns them a score if a citizen walks on the sidewalk correctly

Funny story about Jaywalking

The automobile lobby in the US took up the cause of labeling and scorning jaywalkers in the 1910s and early 1920s. In 1912, for instance, Popular Mechanics magazine reported that the term was current in Kansas City: "The city pedestrian who cares not for traffic regulations at street corners, but strays all over the street, crossing in the middle of the block, or attempting to save time by choosing a diagonal route across a street intersection instead of adhering to the regular crossing, is designated as a 'jay walker,' in Kansas City."

In 1915, when New York City’s police commissioner Arthur Woods sought to apply the word "jaywalker" to anyone who crossed the street at mid-block, the New York Times protested, calling it “highly opprobrious” and “a truly shocking name.”

Originally in the US, the legal rule was that "all persons have an equal right in the highway, and that in exercising the right each shall take due care not to injure other users of the way". In time, however, streets became the province of vehicular traffic, both practically and legally.

Anyway, enjoy your hyper-criminalized car culture hellscape while making spooky fingers about Evil Foreign Country.

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ShinkanTrain lemmy.ml ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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Per Wikipedia: The program first emerged in the early 2000s, inspired by the credit scoring systems in other countries. It’s almost the same thing but a different name, and is nationalized to a state system instead of like 3 or 4 companies lmao Right wingers fear the word “social” for some reason ig

The Misconceptions section of that page is really funny. It just keeps on going with the same thing over and over but with different people and dates, it feels like a bit

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wuffah lemmy.world wuffah@lemmy.world
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Eheran lemmy.world Eheran@lemmy.world
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Yea, China monitors a billion people in their country and assigns them a score if a citizen walks on the sidewalk correctly /s

Yea, China monitors a billion people in their country

Correct, and those abroad too.

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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Per Wikipedia: The program first emerged in the early 2000s, inspired by the credit scoring systems in other countries. It’s almost the same thing but a different name, and is nationalized to a state system instead of like 3 or 4 companies lmao Right wingers fear the word “social” for some reason ig
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Ilixtze lemmy.ml Ilixtze@lemmy.ml
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Some gringo in the comments: "Something something Uyghurs, something something mass surveillance, winnie poo"

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-01-18
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Per Wikipedia: The program first emerged in the early 2000s, inspired by the credit scoring systems in other countries. It’s almost the same thing but a different name, and is nationalized to a state system instead of like 3 or 4 companies lmao Right wingers fear the word “social” for some reason ig

also

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Amnesigenic lemmy.ml Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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wuffah lemmy.world wuffah@lemmy.world
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One of us may not be coping very well.

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
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Yea, China monitors a billion people in their country Correct, and those abroad too.

You know the stories of secret overseas Chinese police stations were fake news, right?

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RiverRock lemmy.ml RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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This deep into the Gaza genocide, anyone with two neurons to spark together hates liberals. Smug, conspiratorial fascists-in-denial who will spend decades helping to strangle you, then criticize the way you breathe.

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RiverRock lemmy.ml RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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Yea, China monitors a billion people in their country Correct, and those abroad too.

I know this because a US government-funded "independent" think tank told me so.

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Broadfern lemmy.world Broadfern@lemmy.world
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I mean, that’s also pretty awesome that there’s decent regulations as part of it(at least nominally, I don’t live there so can’t say for certain), but it seems to be primarily a banking/lending thing similar to in the US which is what a lot of jingoistic fearmongering types either completely miss or purposely ignore.

It’s decidedly not a surveillance thing, which is the funny part.

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astro leminal.space astro@leminal.space
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#17 · Quote Reply

You know the stories of secret overseas Chinese police stations were fake news, right?
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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
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False Witnesses and Sinister Plots: Exposing the CIA Connection in the ‘Chinese Police Station’ Narrative

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wuffah lemmy.world wuffah@lemmy.world
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This deep into the Gaza genocide, anyone with two neurons to spark together hates liberals. Smug, conspiratorial fascists-in-denial who will spend decades helping to strangle you, then criticize the way you breathe.

If you’re pro Russia, you’re pro-genocide.

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humanspiral lemmy.ca humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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All of the ID verification, posing as age verification, legislation is for better thought monitoring of social credit too.

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HiddenLayer555 lemmy.ml HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml
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#21 · (edited) Quote Reply

When will Westerners realize that the common characture of the brainwashed, thought controlled, information controlled, constantly surveiled citizen that we attribute to China/The USSR/etc... IS US?! You clutch your pearls at people in other countries potentially being treated like that but are inclined to do nothing about OUR OWN countries treating US like that.

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Smackyroon lemmy.ml Smackyroon@lemmy.ml
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#22 · Quote Reply

Some gringo in the comments: "Something something Uyghurs, something something mass surveillance, winnie poo"

Liberals and real actual gaza genocide: 🥱

Liberals and fake Uyghur genocide: Real shit

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astro leminal.space astro@leminal.space
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#23 · Quote Reply

False Witnesses and Sinister Plots: Exposing the CIA Connection in the ‘Chinese Police Station’ Narrative
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Smackyroon lemmy.ml Smackyroon@lemmy.ml
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#24 · Quote Reply

False Witnesses and Sinister Plots: Exposing the CIA Connection in the ‘Chinese Police Station’ Narrative

Inb4 they drop the zionist media bias fact "checker" link 😂

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Smackyroon lemmy.ml Smackyroon@lemmy.ml
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"propaganda"

Yeah, I guess thats what you've been conditioned to spout when encountering non-empire-sanctioned news sources ha ha!

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Smackyroon lemmy.ml Smackyroon@lemmy.ml
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If you’re pro Russia, you’re pro-genocide.

Yeah, supporting the country whose fighting the empire, rooting out nazis, and stopping a genocide is being "for genocide". Do you libs ever question your sources or what??

.world user

makes sense, thats probably a no then?

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wuffah lemmy.world wuffah@lemmy.world
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"propaganda" Yeah, I guess thats what you've been conditioned to spout when encountering non-empire-sanctioned news sources ha ha!
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whotookkarl lemmy.dbzer0.com whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#28 · Quote Reply

I'm not comparing the systems or saying it's better, but you don't need a credit rating to get a mortgage on a home in the US and are doing yourself a disservice repeating that talking point.

If you don't have a credit rating they'll ask for other evidences you are able to pay off a 15-30 year loan like consistent and not missing payments on a phone, rent, utilities, internet, etc steady employment, bigger down payment. it's called manual underwriting or a non traditional mortgage application.

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Smackyroon lemmy.ml Smackyroon@lemmy.ml
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Silly, this is .ml for marxists. We're all pro-China, Russia, and even gasp pro-DPRK because we don't shun from news sources that havent been deemed worthy by the empire

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
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#30 · (edited) Quote Reply

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It’s very hard to prove a negative, especially to people who want to believe, thanks to over a century of anticommunist propaganda. The burden of proof ought to be on those making claims of secret foreign police stations on their soil, an extraordinary claim. All those articles are trash and have no real evidence. And they don’t need any, because almost no Westerners demand any, because the narrative aligns with their preconception of communist states as cartoonishly evil.

Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing”

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whotookkarl lemmy.dbzer0.com whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#31 · Quote Reply

When will Westerners realize that the common characture of the brainwashed, thought controlled, information controlled, constantly surveiled citizen that we attribute to China/The USSR/etc... IS US?! You clutch your pearls at people in other countries potentially being treated like that but are inclined to do nothing about OUR OWN countries treating US like that.

Snowden showed they realized but didn't care

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wuffah lemmy.world wuffah@lemmy.world
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Yeah, supporting the country whose fighting the empire, rooting out nazis, and stopping a genocide is being "for genocide". Do you libs ever question your sources or what?? .world user makes sense, thats probably a no then?

Yea Russia is really rooting out those Nazis in Ukraine lol, maybe if you simp for Putin harder you won’t get conscripted into the meat grinder. Best of luck to you in your crusade to end genocide by spreading Russian propaganda. 👋

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Shatur lemmy.ml Shatur@lemmy.ml
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Yeah, supporting the country whose fighting the empire, rooting out nazis, and stopping a genocide is being "for genocide". Do you libs ever question your sources or what?? .world user makes sense, thats probably a no then?

It's like saying, "Invading Iran is okay because their state is bad." It's not okay - look at how much suffering it causes. And for what? Simply replacing one oligarchy with another.

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beejboytyson lemmy.world beejboytyson@lemmy.world
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I'm not comparing the systems or saying it's better, but you don't need a credit rating to get a mortgage on a home in the US and are doing yourself a disservice repeating that talking point. If you don't have a credit rating they'll ask for other evidences you are able to pay off a 15-30 year loan like consistent and not missing payments on a phone, rent, utilities, internet, etc steady employ...

Man, what world you live in?

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Pirate2377 lemmy.zip pirate2377@lemmy.zip
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#35 · Quote Reply

Both are bad???

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Lunar lemmy.ml _lunar@lemmy.ml
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#36 · Quote Reply

Both are bad???
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m532 lemmy.ml m532@lemmy.ml
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If you’re pro Russia, you’re pro-genocide.

*pro Trolley Problem

Fixed.

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kibiz0r midwest.social kibiz0r@midwest.social
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#38 · Quote Reply

When will Westerners realize that the common characture of the brainwashed, thought controlled, information controlled, constantly surveiled citizen that we attribute to China/The USSR/etc... IS US?! You clutch your pearls at people in other countries potentially being treated like that but are inclined to do nothing about OUR OWN countries treating US like that.

A Russian is on an airliner heading to the US, and the American in the seat next to him asks, “So what brings you to the US?” The Russian replies, “I’m studying the American approach to propaganda.” The American says, “What propaganda?” The Russian says, “That’s what I mean.”

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ShinkanTrain lemmy.ml ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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#39 · Quote Reply

You know the stories of secret overseas Chinese police stations were fake news, right?

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Spice Hoarder lemmy.zip spicehoarder@lemmy.zip
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I'm not comparing the systems or saying it's better, but you don't need a credit rating to get a mortgage on a home in the US and are doing yourself a disservice repeating that talking point. If you don't have a credit rating they'll ask for other evidences you are able to pay off a 15-30 year loan like consistent and not missing payments on a phone, rent, utilities, internet, etc steady employ...

If you treat your credit card like your debit card, you can get 3% off literally everything. As long as you don't spend more than you make, you'll never owe interest.

I have enough credit, I can by a whole car with the swipe of a card. I'll never have to wonder about underwriting or proving myself. I've already done so to my bank. And if I ever decide to do that, I'll have zero down and zero interest for 6 months.

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tomi000 lemmy.world tomi000@lemmy.world
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Silly, this is .ml for marxists. We're all pro-China, Russia, and even gasp pro-DPRK because we don't shun from news sources that havent been deemed worthy by the empire

I never understood how being a marxist has anything to do with being pro-putin, who is obviously the exact opposite of a marxist.

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Amnesigenic lemmy.ml Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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#42 · Quote Reply

If you’re pro Russia, you’re pro-genocide.
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astro leminal.space astro@leminal.space
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#43 · Quote Reply

It’s very hard to prove a negative, especially to people who want to believe, thanks to over a century of anticommunist propaganda. The burden of proof ought to be on those making claims of secret foreign police stations on their soil, an extraordinary claim. All those articles are trash and have no real evidence. And they don’t need any, because almost no Westerners demand any, because the nar...
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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
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It was my understanding that the existence of police stations in foreign countries is not debated, they have them.

No, that’s not a thing. What country allows another country to have police stations on its sovereign territory, where it has sovereign jurisdiction and the foreign country has none? That makes no sense.

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wuffah lemmy.world wuffah@lemmy.world
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I’m well aware of the USA’s complicity in genocide. You seem to be unaware of Russia’s.

It’s really bizarre to be against genocide and unabashedly pro-Russia while spreading their insane genocidal propaganda.

I think you don’t really care about genocide, I think you’d rather just see more of it from the Republican Party because you’re a paid Russian asset.

Like I said to your partner in crime, I wish you the best in avoiding conscription into your own country’s genocide by sucking Putin’s cock. 👋

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astro leminal.space astro@leminal.space
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#46 · Quote Reply

It was my understanding that the existence of police stations in foreign countries is not debated, they have them. No, that’s not a thing. What country allows another country to have police stations on its sovereign territory, where it has sovereign jurisdiction and the foreign country has none? That makes no sense.
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Amnesigenic lemmy.ml Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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I’m well aware of the USA’s complicity in genocide. You seem to be unaware of Russia’s. It’s really bizarre to be against genocide and unabashedly pro-Russia while spreading their insane genocidal propaganda. I think you don’t really care about genocide, I think you’d rather just see more of it from the Republican Party because you’re a paid Russian asset. Like I said to your partner in crime, ...
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Pirate2377 lemmy.zip pirate2377@lemmy.zip
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#48 · Quote Reply

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Sure, let's say it doesn't since I admittedly haven't looked into this in painful detail. However, this meme seems to suggest that if it did exist, then it would be perfectly fine on the virtue that credit scores exist in America. Aka, whataboutism.

Since Germany made concentration camps under the third reich that it isn't that bad when America does it. At least by this logic. Guess it's impossible to be against two things at once. Though I hope I'm just misinterpreting the point

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TORFdot0 lemmy.world TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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Experian, TransUnion, and Equifax are awful entities that I never consented to share my personal financial data with. But one wrong doesn’t justify another. Personally I think a score by private data brokers to judge creditworthiness is less harm than a score by your government to judge social worthiness but both are harm.

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
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It is widely known and actually mentioned in the article you linked above

The things mentioned in the article aren’t police stations, Chinese or otherwise, nor are they secret.

You also read the Chinese government’s explanation for their existence if you search the MFA website for 海外警务服务中心

I can’t read Chinese, can you?

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson’s Remarks on “Overseas Chinese Service Centers in the Netherlands”

AFP: The Dutch government said yesterday that no permission was sought from the Netherlands for the Chinese “police service stations”, and it ordered China to close the “police service stations” in the Netherlands. What is China's comment?

Zhao Lijian: I would refer you to competent authorities for more detailed information. Let me say that according to our understanding, the sites you mentioned are not “police stations” or “police service centers”. They assist overseas Chinese nationals who need help in accessing the online service platform to get their driving licenses renewed and receive physical check-ups for that purpose. The venues are provided by local overseas Chinese communities who would like to be helpful, and the people who work on those sites are all volunteers who come from these communities. They are not police personnel from China. There is no need to make people nervous about this.

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astro leminal.space astro@leminal.space
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#51 · Quote Reply

It is widely known and actually mentioned in the article you linked above The things mentioned in the article aren’t police stations, Chinese or otherwise, nor are they secret. You also read the Chinese government’s explanation for their existence if you search the MFA website for 海外警务服务中心 I can’t read Chinese, can you? Foreign Ministry Spokesperson’s Remarks on “Overseas Chinese Service Center...
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