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GiveOver
feddit.uk
GiveOver@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Does this imply that some anthems ironically mention boobs? |
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deus
lemmy.world
deus@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-11 |
You might read it that way, but it doesn't make the other reading wrong the way that user SwingingTheLamp was suggesting.
No, reading it in that way is wrong. The lyrics are talking about the land, the country. Not a person. In context it can only mean heart or core, not breast. |
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Bahnd Rollard
lemmy.world
Bahnd@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-08-26 |
Does this imply that some anthems ironically mention boobs?
The state flag of Virginia has boobs on it, also an active call for violence. Not the same, but its in the spirit of the post. |
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Jiral
lemmy.world
Jiral@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-06-06 |
Yep, unless they count Austrias "secret anthem" by Reinhardt Fendrich - I am from Austria, which references blood.
Oh, you mean they knew the real anthem? ;) The one people actually know the lyrics to. I always find it funny when the far right voters are singing it whole hartedly. |
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glimse
lemmy.world
glimse@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/portuguese-english/seio has breast as the first translation. Also, even in English, "bosom" is generally taken to be the polite way to say breast 99% of the time even if it /can/ mean the chest area. I think you're just being contrarian.
They're not contrarian, bosom can refer to breasts but that's not the only definition. I'm pretty sure it's not even the primary definition for the majority of the word's existence. I don't really want to link a bible site but take your pick and search for the word. 50+ references and it rarely meant boobs. It meant...the area of hugging. How could a man put his hands between his tits? Cradling a child is holding it in your bosom. A baby doesn't suck milk from bosoms. Bosom meant the chest area even if it generally only used to mean breasts nowadays. |
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SwingingTheLamp
piefed.zip
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-12-27 |
I have never heard the word bosom refer to anything but boobs. Its like a polite term for titties.
The Battle Hymn of the Republic mentions Jesus's boobs, then. |
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SwingingTheLamp
piefed.zip
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-12-27 |
Right, but then the joke doesn't work :/
Thailand's national anthem is smuttier, then, since it talks about holding Thai people in boobs, not just an abstract concept like liberty! |
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SwingingTheLamp
piefed.zip
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-12-27 |
"Seio" in Portuguese means "breast" and is used to refer to boobs.
Like chicken breast? |
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captainlezbian
lemmy.world
captainlezbian@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
That's not boobs. Every translation that I found had it as "bosom" in English, referring to the chest area. I mean, maybe some people have liberty in their tiddies, but that seems unusual.
I have liberty in my tits. They demand freedom! |
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Akasazh
lemmy.world
Akasazh@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-24 |
Ok, try complimenting a man on his bosom and see how he reacts.
Nice pecs bro |
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captainlezbian
lemmy.world
captainlezbian@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
It's used quite often to mean chest. It's a fill in for saying "breast", which is usually meaning "inside one's chest, near to their heart". There's a quote attributed to Albert Einstein though I found no source to which is "Anger dwells only in the bosom of fools", which shows this application. Shakespear also has Isabella say in Measure for Measure, act 2 scene 2 "Go to your bosom: knock ther...
Yeah it seems like it began meaning chest, became a polite way of saying boobs, and eventually the latter edged out the former. Mind you this is in English and the line in question is Portuguese so maybe arguing English semantics isn't helping us get close to the truth. If anyone here speaks Portuguese I'd love to hear if that word has any of these implications in Portuguese. |
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Wildmimic
anarchist.nexus
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-05 |
Oh, you mean they knew the real anthem? ;) The one people actually know the lyrics to. I always find it funny when the far right voters are singing it whole hartedly.
I really do not like austropop (outside of the EAV, courtesy of my childhood), but even i know those lyrics by heart. And yes, it is very funny - it's similar to republicans thinking Rage against the Machine became woke lol |
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furry toaster
lemmy.blahaj.zone
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-01-04 |
Yeah it seems like it began meaning chest, became a polite way of saying boobs, and eventually the latter edged out the former. Mind you this is in English and the line in question is Portuguese so maybe arguing English semantics isn't helping us get close to the truth. If anyone here speaks Portuguese I'd love to hear if that word has any of these implications in Portuguese.
the word "seios" nowadays is largely equivelent to "breasts" but it seems like it meant chest more generally in past |
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furry toaster
lemmy.blahaj.zone
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-01-04 |
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/portuguese-english/seio has breast as the first translation. Also, even in English, "bosom" is generally taken to be the polite way to say breast 99% of the time even if it /can/ mean the chest area. I think you're just being contrarian.
because the common use of it nowadays means "breasts", the lyrics were written over a hundred years ago, that does not mean that that was the most common usage at the time or the intended one |
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furry toaster
lemmy.blahaj.zone
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-01-04 |
Like chicken breast?
no |
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captainlezbian
lemmy.world
captainlezbian@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
This verse is referring to the british, not menial laborers or chattel slaves. "Hirelings" was (is?) an insulting term to describe a mercenary, and the implication is that they are either brigands who are only in it for a pittance wage, rubes who do it because of a loyalty to the monarchy and/or impressed soldiers of the british (a practice with many parallels to chattel slavery, for what that'...
And it's important to add, one of the cassi belli for the war of 1812 was the british impressment of sailors on American vessels, including American citizens. |
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captainlezbian
lemmy.world
captainlezbian@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
The US National Anthem is the only one in the whole world that mentions bombs.
USA USA USA! But for real, we started the war, yes, but we had reasonable cassus belli (embargoing our trade with france and kidnapping our seamen into the british navy) and the poem is about a defensive battle. I still think our national anthem should be a secularized version of the battle hymn of the republic. |
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captainlezbian
lemmy.world
captainlezbian@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
the word "seios" nowadays is largely equivelent to "breasts" but it seems like it meant chest more generally in past
Makes sense, I guess bosom is an excellent translation then lol |
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athatet
lemmy.zip
athatet@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-09-12 |
This is a meme sub
Is this a meme conversation? A meme point that youre trying to make? |
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Harmonics041
feddit.uk
Harmonics041@feddit.uk Joined: 2026-02-12 |
Welsh national anthem mentions blood |
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content_educator_94
thelemmy.club
content_educator_94@thelemmy.club Joined: 2026-02-18 |
I think more boobs would be good in most national anthems |
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JustPlainDave
lemmy.zip
JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-09-09 |
Where does the Star Spangled Banner mention blood? |
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JustPlainDave
lemmy.zip
JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-09-09 |
And this is how I learned there were 4 verses to the star spangled banner https://www.lyricsondemand.com/n/nationalanthemlyrics/usanationalanthemlyrics.html
Do the other 3 verses count if nobody knows them? |
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PyroNeurosis
lemmy.blahaj.zone
PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-11-09 |
Where does the Star Spangled Banner mention blood?
Verse 3. |
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Sasquatch
lemmy.ml
Sasquatch@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-08-12 |
Where does the Star Spangled Banner mention blood?
3rd stanza. In school I think we never went beyond the first stanza.
metal asf |
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BilSabab
lemmy.world
BilSabab@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
one of the iterations of Ukraine's national anthem lyrics from early 20th century had blood mentioned in the context of dark past history of wars and occupation and how our people persist in spite of everything. that bit wasn't in the original poem and its musical adaptation which was about glorious past and wishful bright future. then there was late 20th iteration that replaced that bit with a bloody battle going from the river San to river Don. San and Don rivers were previously mentioned as abstract furthest points of slavic people agglomeration. That version also mentions river Dnipro in a different part and calls it Granpa Dnipro. |
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BilSabab
lemmy.world
BilSabab@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
Yep, unless they count Austrias "secret anthem" by Reinhardt Fendrich - I am from Austria, which references blood.
i don't think they are aware of that |
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Agent641
lemmy.world
Agent641@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-12 |
Australia is the only anthem who mentions how girt we are |
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bedwyr
piefed.ca
bedwyr@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-03-23 |
Same. I have never in my life heard anything after "O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave"
The song sucks anyway, there I said it. |
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JustPlainDave
lemmy.zip
JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-09-09 |
3rd stanza. In school I think we never went beyond the first stanza. Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution metal asf
Do the other verses count if nobody knows them? |
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Wildmimic
anarchist.nexus
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-05 |
i don't think they are aware of that
But it's the only way that the word "blood" might be connected to the austrian anthem at all. Only the word "Heart" appears, as in "heart of Europe". They probably asked an LLM. |
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BilSabab
lemmy.world
BilSabab@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
But it's the only way that the word "blood" might be connected to the austrian anthem at all. Only the word "Heart" appears, as in "heart of Europe". They probably asked an LLM.
far from wildest shit it can pull. |
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Wildmimic
anarchist.nexus
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-05 |
far from wildest shit it can pull.
Yeah, if you ask often enough LLMs probably accuse Austrians of cannibalism and institutionally enforced incest. |
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BilSabab
lemmy.world
BilSabab@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
Yeah, if you ask often enough LLMs probably accuse Austrians of cannibalism and institutionally enforced incest.
well, i once convinced Claude that Claude Shannon don't exist. everything is possible. |
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Wildmimic
anarchist.nexus
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-05 |
well, i once convinced Claude that Claude Shannon don't exist. everything is possible.
Breaking LLMs is seriously fun btw lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhi6JU5pOJk |
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BilSabab
lemmy.world
BilSabab@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
Breaking LLMs is seriously fun btw lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhi6JU5pOJk
that's just cruel. where i can get more? |
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Wildmimic
anarchist.nexus
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-05 |
that's just cruel. where i can get more?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk3jCuITwcE is what i am watching right now lol Kitboga is a good source in general for this stuff. |
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BilSabab
lemmy.world
BilSabab@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk3jCuITwcE is what i am watching right now lol Kitboga is a good source in general for this stuff.
thx |
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Olmai
lemmy.world
Olmai@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-21 |
The translation is wrong. I don't know where that anthem comes but in french, sein means core. In its "sein" means at its core, deeply rooted
Sein also means breast in french |
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drolex
sopuli.xyz
drolex@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-13 |
In reply to an earlier post
I think they do in the secret stanzas where they list all the types of sausages |
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Frostbeard
lemmy.world
Frostbeard@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-16 |
Norway mentiones how the Olaf Haraldson died the "martyr" death in 1030 while trying to make Norway christian. The entire second verse is about the early medieval kings. |
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Wildmimic
anarchist.nexus
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-05 |
thx
With "this stuff" i meant messing with scammers in general, which i find even more amusing - LLMs all break the same way pretty fast, it gets old soon. |
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ElectricVocalist
jlai.lu
Mubelotix@jlai.luJoined: 2023-07-02 |
Sein also means breast in french
I won't take that rage bait |
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Dozzi92
lemmy.world
Dozzi92@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-02 |
Welsh national anthem mentions blood
Just nobody can understand it. |
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BilSabab
lemmy.world
BilSabab@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
With "this stuff" i meant messing with scammers in general, which i find even more amusing - LLMs all break the same way pretty fast, it gets old soon.
i really like how chinese models go off the deep end and then some. it's like reverse I have no mouth and you're AM. |
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kolmaskommentoija
sopuli.xyz
kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2026-06-14 |
They're not contrarian, bosom can refer to breasts but that's not the only definition. I'm pretty sure it's not even the primary definition for the majority of the word's existence. I don't really want to link a bible site but take your pick and search for the word. 50+ references and it rarely meant boobs. It meant...the area of hugging. How could a man put his hands between his tits? Cradling...
Well, if he is very fat, has gynecomastia, or has not gotten top surgery yet, so technically... |
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ilinamorato
lemmy.world
ilinamorato@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-27 |
In reply to an earlier post
I also would've accepted "Boogity, Boogity, Boogity, Amen." |
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Psythik
lemmy.world
Psythik@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-21 |
Do the other verses count if nobody knows them?
I legitimately thought they were bullshiting until I went and looked it up. In my 40-some years on planet earth, I have never heard anyone sing the song beyond the first stanza. The song having multiple stanzas has never even been brought up. |
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Warl0k3
lemmy.world
Warl0k3@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-11 |
I also would've accepted "Boogity, Boogity, Boogity, Amen."
I don't know, while that one is iconic I'm not sure it actually synthesizes the true spirit of america quite like starting off the Oscar Mayer Weiner 500 like that... |
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AlsaValderaan
lemmy.blahaj.zone
AlsaValderaan@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-08-20 |
In reply to an earlier post
The myth of how the flag came to be mentions it I suppose ... the red parts are blood, the white was covered and so not bloodied. |
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