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negativenull piefed.world negativenull@piefed.world
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gastroglizzy piefed.social gastroglizzy@piefed.social
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Sometimes they do. In the episodes where they de/activate the self-destruct sequence, the captain has to give their authorization code. The fact that they have to give it verbally in front of everyone isn't ideal though.

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TotallyNotSpez lemmy.world AbsolutelyNotSpez@lemmy.world
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#3 · (edited) Quote Reply

Zapp Brannigan: IT security is for sissies!

All the love for the dolls here, I just had to get this dumb and slightly altered Futurama quote out of my brain after reading the meme.

What really cracked me up recently was this screenshot, being a musician and an Ableton user myself, and again, all the love for the dolls!

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schipelblorp sh.itjust.works schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
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#4 · Quote Reply

Sometimes they do. In the episodes where they de/activate the self-destruct sequence, the captain has to give their authorization code. The fact that they have to give it verbally in front of everyone isn't ideal though.

Authorization Cyril Figgis

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Ex Nummis lemmy.world Kyrgizion@lemmy.world
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#5 · Quote Reply

"Sudo su"

"Goddammit"

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TheAgeOfSuperboredom lemmy.ca TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca
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#6 · Quote Reply

There's also the episode where they find the guy who needs to check his stocks, and Picard explains that in the future people behave like adults.

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AeronMelon lemmy.world aeronmelon@lemmy.world
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Sometimes they do. In the episodes where they de/activate the self-destruct sequence, the captain has to give their authorization code. The fact that they have to give it verbally in front of everyone isn't ideal though.

It’s a voice print, so it doesn’t matter who else knows it. Unless it’s Data.

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dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️ lemmy.world dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
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#8 · Quote Reply

Sometimes they do. In the episodes where they de/activate the self-destruct sequence, the captain has to give their authorization code. The fact that they have to give it verbally in front of everyone isn't ideal though.

There's also apparently some manner of voice print analysis as well. Because in whatever episode that was when Data goes rogue, he has to mimic Picard's voice to do command stuff and set up the self destruct.

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negativenull Moderator negativenull@piefed.world
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#9 · (edited) Quote Reply

Zapp Brannigan: IT security is for sissies! All the love for the dolls here, I just had to get this dumb and slightly altered Futurama quote out of my brain after reading the meme. What really cracked me up recently was this screenshot, being a musician and an Ableton user myself, and again, all the love for the dolls!

That made me chuckle!

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eurodyne piefed.world eurodyne@piefed.world
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These episodes came out in the late 80s and early 90s, when cybersecurity wasn’t really even a “thing”. Yet, even then, when I was seven or eight or nine, I knew enough about computer programming to implement, at the very least, passwords before executing certain commands.

It was hard, sometimes, not to think of these people as fucking idiots

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schipelblorp sh.itjust.works schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
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There's also apparently some manner of voice print analysis as well. Because in whatever episode that was when Data goes rogue, he has to mimic Picard's voice to do command stuff and set up the self destruct.

Yes, easily foiled with recording equipment (See: Archer), but recording equipment has a weird almost Schroedinger's Cat-like status in Trek...

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TotallyNotSpez lemmy.world AbsolutelyNotSpez@lemmy.world
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#12 · Quote Reply

That made me chuckle!

Jungle music!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sqif_Rqnecg&pp=ygUXZmF0aGVyIHRlZCBqdW5nbGUgbXVzaWM%3D

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negativenull Moderator negativenull@piefed.world
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#13 · (edited) Quote Reply

Jungle music! https://youtube.com/watch?v=sqif_Rqnecg&pp=ygUXZmF0aGVyIHRlZCBqdW5nbGUgbXVzaWM%3D

I was randomly listening to this just yesterday:
https://tidal.com/browse/album/3614861?u

I saw him live a long while ago (https://www.concertarchives.org/concerts/rave-on-the-rocks--2)
edit: fixed link

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Tattorack lemmy.world Tattorack@lemmy.world
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There's also the episode where they find the guy who needs to check his stocks, and Picard explains that in the future people behave like adults.

This.

Ironically yet another one of those things NuTrek seems to have completely forgotten.

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Glowstick lemmy.world Glowstick@lemmy.world
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#15 · Quote Reply

Examples?

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👍Maximum Derek👍 discuss.tchncs.de Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de
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After WWIII, the writings of Richard Stallman became the guiding principles of computing.

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negativenull Moderator negativenull@piefed.world
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#17 · (edited) Quote Reply

After WWIII, the writings of Richard Stallman became the guiding principles of computing.

It's not LCARS, it's GNU/LCARS

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TotallyNotSpez lemmy.world AbsolutelyNotSpez@lemmy.world
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I was randomly listening to this just yesterday: https://tidal.com/browse/album/3614861?u I saw him live a long while ago (https://www.concertarchives.org/concerts/rave-on-the-rocks--2) edit: fixed link

Unfortunately I couldn't access the first link despite many login options since I dodged all 'murica fuck yeah services after the 2nd time your people were daft enough to vote the Orang'Wutan into office.

Second link gave me a 404 error, unfortunately.

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tacosanonymous lemmy.blahaj.zone tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#19 · Quote Reply

Zapp Brannigan: IT security is for sissies! All the love for the dolls here, I just had to get this dumb and slightly altered Futurama quote out of my brain after reading the meme. What really cracked me up recently was this screenshot, being a musician and an Ableton user myself, and again, all the love for the dolls!

If they give him great advice, there’ll be a hookup.

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unalivejoy piefed.social joyjoy@piefed.social
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#20 · (edited) Quote Reply

I had a thought a while ago on why everything goes wrong for starfleet. All their officers are vibe coding. The warp core is vibe coded. The weapons are vibe coded. The holodeck is vibe coded. It's why the safety protocols are always getting turned off.

It's made obvious when they design the Runabout in Voyager.

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negativenull Moderator negativenull@piefed.world
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#21 · Quote Reply

Unfortunately I couldn't access the first link despite many login options since I dodged all 'murica fuck yeah services after the 2nd time your people were daft enough to vote the Orang'Wutan into office. Second link gave me a 404 error, unfortunately.

No worries (and don't blame you). It's a link to the album 'Aphrodite - Aftershock', a classic Jungle artist from the 90s/00s.

The second lists a concert I went to:
Rave on the Rocks
Paul Oakenfold / Static Revenger / DJ Aphrodite / BT
Jul 21, 2000 (26 years ago)
Red Rocks Amphitheatre

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BillyClark piefed.social BillyClark@piefed.social
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#22 · Quote Reply

In some versions of Star Trek, I'm sure they've said that the first few presses somebody makes on a console is them logging in.

The systems were designed similar to military installations contemporary to when they were written, with the expectation that unauthorized people were not supposed to have access to certain areas in the first place.

Of course, now it seems stupid. My car has more security just using my phone as the key. They could easily have used their badges as credentials at the very least. Realistically, with their tech, the computer should just know everybody's identities and everybody's locations at all times, even without badges, and should be able to control access using that information.

But just imagine if they used that sort of tech. Every time somebody was in a prison cell, the computer would be analyzing what they were doing, and alert security the moment they started trying to break out, for example. So many episodes would end before they started.

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owenfromcanada lemmy.ca owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca
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#23 · Quote Reply

They did require admin logins, but they also implemented a bimonthly password change, so there were post-its on all the monitors.

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jj4211 lemmy.world jj4211@lemmy.world
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#24 · Quote Reply

The episode where Moriarty came about was because Geordi tried to vibe code an opponent for Data and the ships computer just made a sentient hologram.

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TotallyNotSpez lemmy.world AbsolutelyNotSpez@lemmy.world
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#25 · Quote Reply

No worries (and don't blame you). It's a link to the album 'Aphrodite - Aftershock', a classic Jungle artist from the 90s/00s. The second lists a concert I went to: Rave on the Rocks Paul Oakenfold / Static Revenger / DJ Aphrodite / BT Jul 21, 2000 (26 years ago) Red Rocks Amphitheatre

Thanks, I'll check it out tomorrow. Dinner for my princess dog first, then I can eat, we both nap, and then we are care free to enjoy in the morning. :)

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RumRunningDevil lemmy.zip RumRunningDevil@lemmy.zip
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I had a thought a while ago on why everything goes wrong for starfleet. All their officers are vibe coding. The warp core is vibe coded. The weapons are vibe coded. The holodeck is vibe coded. It's why the safety protocols are always getting turned off. It's made obvious when they design the Runabout in Voyager.

Honestly been thinking about this. Everytime someone talks about "programming the holodeck" and they do it in like... 20 minutes, I have to assume that the "programming" was

"Make me a Sherlock Holmes larp. Make no mistakes"

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herrvogel lemmy.world herrvogel@lemmy.world
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#27 · Quote Reply

It’s a voice print, so it doesn’t matter who else knows it. Unless it’s Data.

Speaking of Data, his existence anywhere near that ship's bridge is a humongous breach of all sorts of security to begin with. He's a not-very-well-understood piece of tech that's been proven to have at least one hidden backdoor into his brains that can let others assume direct control over him and use him to do some exteremely dangerous things. Letting him into the bridge of such an important ship and giving him such high clearance is just insane.

But of course why worry about Data given the captain himself and his history with the Borg. In other words it's Star Trek, so whatever. The show must go on.

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CannonFodder lemmy.world CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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#28 · Quote Reply

It’s a voice print, so it doesn’t matter who else knows it. Unless it’s Data.

Or unless it's anyone with a tape recorder

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Taleya aussie.zone Taleya@aussie.zone
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#29 · Quote Reply

Databases.

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Taleya aussie.zone Taleya@aussie.zone
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#30 · Quote Reply

Or unless it's anyone with a tape recorder

Well they didn't discover DNA in the trek verse for quite a while so they got really really good at voiceprint analysis instead

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Telodzrum lemmy.world Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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#31 · Quote Reply

It’s a voice print, so it doesn’t matter who else knows it. Unless it’s Data.
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dohpaz42 lemmy.world dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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#32 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Then how can Data assume control of the ship just by using other people’s voices and codes?

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Quetzalcutlass lemmy.world Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world
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#33 · Quote Reply

Well they didn't discover DNA in the trek verse for quite a while so they got really really good at voiceprint analysis instead

I could see DNA and all genetic technology becoming vorboten for a while after the Eugenics Wars.

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Taleya aussie.zone Taleya@aussie.zone
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#34 · (edited) Quote Reply

I could see DNA and all genetic technology becoming vorboten for a while after the Eugenics Wars.

I mean the fact that la'ans family still has the surname is some pretty dark storytelling in a watsonian sense. Normally they'd change that shit in a heartbeat. The fact they haven't suggests a preventative mechanism, probably for monitoring purposes. There's also the bigotry exhibited during Una's trial right down even to Bashir's. Humanity has some deep fuckin' trauma there

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Final Remix lemmy.world FinalRemix@lemmy.world
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#35 · Quote Reply

The episode where Moriarty came about was because Geordi tried to vibe code an opponent for Data and the ships computer just made a sentient hologram.

Yup... Create an adversary for Data, not Create an adversary that beats Sherlock Holmes.

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Final Remix lemmy.world FinalRemix@lemmy.world
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#36 · Quote Reply

Then how can Data assume control of the ship just by using other people’s voices and codes?

Data has no biometrics and is therefore exempt?

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dohpaz42 lemmy.world dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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#37 · (edited) Quote Reply

Data has no biometrics and is therefore exempt?

But wouldn’t the computer then a) never recognize any command given by Data (as Data)?, and 2) not recognize any command from Data pretending to be someone else because that someone else is elsewhere in the ship?

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Final Remix lemmy.world FinalRemix@lemmy.world
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#38 · Quote Reply

But wouldn’t the computer then a) never recognize any command given by Data (as Data)?, and 2) not recognize any command from Data pretending to be someone else because that someone else is elsewhere in the ship?

Data quietly says "sudo" before most stuff he does?

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thevoidzero lemmy.world thevoidzero@lemmy.world
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#39 · Quote Reply

They did require admin logins, but they also implemented a bimonthly password change, so there were post-its on all the monitors.

Lol, my company has daily, there's no way I can remember without writing it down. But hey, it'll be invalid the next day so it's all good

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PattyMcB lemmy.world PattyMcB@lemmy.world
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#40 · Quote Reply

Lol, my company has daily, there's no way I can remember without writing it down. But hey, it'll be invalid the next day so it's all good

Holy poop that sounds horrible

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OpenStars discuss.online OpenStars@discuss.online
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#41 · (edited) Quote Reply

Data quietly says "sudo" before most stuff he does?

Then what does he say prior to sudo?

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OpenStars discuss.online OpenStars@discuss.online
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#42 · Quote Reply

Yup... Create an adversary for Data, not Create an adversary that beats Sherlock Holmes.

And threw the majority of ship's resources at the task, taking the energy currency away from all other systems in order to achieve the goal.

"You are so right to push back against my over-utilization of resources..."

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OpenStars discuss.online OpenStars@discuss.online
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#43 · Quote Reply

"Sudo su" "Goddammit"

Sulu: WHAT?!

img

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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#44 · Quote Reply

Lol, my company has daily, there's no way I can remember without writing it down. But hey, it'll be invalid the next day so it's all good

That's how you end up using password 001 thru password365 every year

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#45 · Quote Reply

The enterprise is a story vessel. Nothing makes sense in a practical sense but everything can be used as a setup for an interesting story. Every device is a plot device.

The transporter can beam down just the combination of characters needed for a story to a planet that's ideal for the story and then it will fail to beam them up because of some weird radiation. The engineering department will need to punch random buttons to fix it exactly as long the story on the planet needs to conclude.

The holodeck is the most versatile plot device and Q the most versatile joker.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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#46 · Quote Reply

Data has no biometrics and is therefore exempt?

Data is fully functional so he must have a biosign emulator up his ass

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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#47 · Quote Reply

Then what does he say prior to sudo?

"listen here you little shit"?

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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#48 · Quote Reply

It's not LCARS, it's GNU/LCARS

My ship runs LCARS Hannah Montana

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TotallyNotSpez lemmy.world AbsolutelyNotSpez@lemmy.world
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#49 · (edited) Quote Reply

No worries (and don't blame you). It's a link to the album 'Aphrodite - Aftershock', a classic Jungle artist from the 90s/00s. The second lists a concert I went to: Rave on the Rocks Paul Oakenfold / Static Revenger / DJ Aphrodite / BT Jul 21, 2000 (26 years ago) Red Rocks Amphitheatre

Good morning. Finally back home after my morning walk in the dark with Ms Fluffydog. I can now enjoy the album by Aphrodite. It's good and reminds me a lot of the first Prodigy album (Experience).

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RampantParanoia2365 lemmy.world RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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#50 · Quote Reply

Jake gets pissed off at Nog because for some reason they don't have headphones anymore.

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ThunderclapSasquatch startrek.website ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website
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#51 · Quote Reply

Then how can Data assume control of the ship just by using other people’s voices and codes?

As an android he could in theory fake the biometrics the computer looks for, his design is organically inspired, hence why he breathes for temperature control and has a blood analog flowing through his "veins"

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